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Re: Rose is Right

[reagan88]

Ok ok

[Arkaham]

Did you see D-War? The only deeper meaning there is "Kids, do not watch CGI gigant monster B movies made in hollywood, they suck"

But seriously speaking. Its all about context. In literary studies we often talk about how it is impossible to completely separate a work of art from its times. Even if the author never had any kind of intention, he lives on his time and people who read or see his work also lives on some moment in history, so always the real world infuence art. (I could make some comments about art influencing real life, but I rather not go there when it comes to 9/11)

So, yes, if you look for it you will find the issues of terrorism, 9/11, goverment conspiracies and all that in the movie. But i don't think JJ or anyone else is putting them there consciously. Just like I think all the godzilla/US A bomb links were put there by the influence of makers and viewer living on those days and places.

[Vince]

cloverfield and 9/11

[fleabit]

Why can't it just be a monster movie? Are you really saying that you know for a fact that ALL prior monster movies had some cultural motivator to try and have a "deeper meaning?" I call shenanigans! Sorry, but many people don't try to have a deeper meaning in their works, whatever they are. They are just made for the love of that genre, nothing more.

[reagan88]

Fleabit

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[e2c]

thats like stating the obvious. SURELY the producers of this film knew exactly what they were doing when they gave Abrams the OK to make a monster movie in which NYC gets completly destroyed. it plays with the fear of the people but at the same time adds mystery to the whole story. a great way to make a lot of money.

why do u think all these army/politics films came out over the last couple of years? saying that, its now come to a point where they don't even get any response anymore... the kingdom and rendition both sucked @ the box office

cloverfield will be a bit different, cleverer ...thats why it could b such a huge hit.

[Patrick Star]

[iconsumer]

I think it would be interesting if the movie focused on the military aspect of the monster attack (which it appears to do), and the real monster ends up being just that... the military.

For instance, what if the human casualties aren't a result of the monster attacking the city, but rather friendly fire (i.e. chemical weapons, bombing gone astray, etc.)

I could definitely see this being a possibility.

... but reading into the monster attack as a metaphor for the environment, or war, or what-nots. Come now. This isn't english lit kids. It's just entertainment.

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[Aurigan]

Cloverfield: When A Monster Movie Just Can't Be a Monster Movie.

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[TBILL]

I agree with Rose on this one. Certainly the TONE of the movie draws largely on 9/11 based anxities (ie SOMETHING hit NY we dont what, Landmarks destroyed, Pics of people wondering confused through streets etc.)

[fleabit]

Just because NY City was attacked in a terrorist plot has nothing to do with the fact it's the most popular site for universal destruction when it comes to flicks. It was that way long before 9/11, and the only reason for a lull was some semblence of respect for the incident. It's well known, vastly populated, is next to the coast (which is a great way to introduce larger monsters.. just doesn't seem as likely or exciting when they pop out of the Rocky Mountains to terrorize Denver), and has lots and lots of nice tall buildings. A monster-movie, city-destroying paradise.

If I see a giant monster tearing down a building in a monster flick, while I respect your opinion that it's some deep set emotion from a terror attack that puts everyone on the edge of their seats, I must disagree completely. I don't think of this at all. It's just a flipping monster movie.

And I really feel it's a low blow to say that a movie producer is using that sort of fear to their advantage to make $$$. I do not believe this would be a consideration, or a motive to use that city in particular. There is no way to tie in a MONSTER movie.. from a fictional character in situations that would never occur, with a terror attack. It's just not there, you're reaching.

It's just a monster flick. From the interviews from JJ, I see no hidden agenda, nor desire to prove a point. It's just his love of the genre that wants him to make this movie, nothing more.