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[SPEC] Maybe the smartest idea is to give up...
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Valken
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[SPEC] Maybe the smartest idea is to give up...

Knowing JJ Abrams, has anyone thought of the possibility that the trailer's pic of the monster was done so cleverly to have many different possibilities... and this is only an example of JJ genius in the way he will film the movie?

Perhaps when the movie comes out there will never be a good shot of the monster and we will be analyzing pics from the movie to figure out what it is.

Maybe this monster is supposed to be an unknown.

Think about it... when asked what it was the military said "I don't know, but it's winning!"

Maybe that's implying that even with a good look at the monster you won't know what it is. Cuz it's not a mutated or giant anything. Just some crazy monster that can look like a bazilian different things from different angles.

JJ might want you to feel exactly the way the characters do.

Maybe when you come out of the movie and someone asks "How was it, what happened, what was it, why?" You will respond with "A few hours ago I watched something attack NY city, if you're listening, you know more than I do."

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I think that we will get a good shot of the monster, and it will look awesome, because what kind of monster would it be if we didn't see its face?
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If it is Abrams' aim to give American's their own movie monster then not showing the monster in full will really screw that up.

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wizkey wrote:
If it is Abrams' aim to give American's their own movie monster then not showing the monster in full will really screw that up.

EXACTLY, ...enough said.

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Unless it's one of those movies where the monster is ambiguous, and you're like "That sucks! What they hey?"---and then he smacks you with a sequel that explains everything. It would be smart to do it that way---everyone pissed cause the first movie doesn't explain much---and then, you realize ah! There's a sequel! More money for him because even if people didn't like the first, they'll go to see the second (or maybe third) to hopefully get some answers. Who knows Razz
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CheshireCat_88 wrote:
Unless it's one of those movies where the monster is ambiguous, and you're like "That sucks! What they hey?"---and then he smacks you with a sequel that explains everything. It would be smart to do it that way---everyone pissed cause the first movie doesn't explain much---and then, you realize ah! There's a sequel! More money for him because even if people didn't like the first, they'll go to see the second (or maybe third) to hopefully get some answers. Who knows Razz


Ehh... ONE sequel possibly. But stop there. DO NOT reuse a good thing too much, otherwise it becomes ruined.

Oh BTW Cheshire... I like your Siggy alot, you don't see many like that anymore. Very Happy

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wizkey wrote:
If it is Abrams' aim to give American's their own movie monster then not showing the monster in full will really screw that up.


Makes complete sense.

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I dunno, this is the creator of lost. Explaining stuff rationally wasn't really his thing in that. But of course, he is only the director (then again, I have a feeling he is more than that).

I think it can go either way, a normal monster movie, or one huge mindf*ck

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W-Three wrote:
I dunno, this is the creator of lost. Explaining stuff rationally wasn't really his thing in that. But of course, he is only the director (then again, I have a feeling he is more than that).

I think it can go either way, a normal monster movie, or one huge mindf*ck


He's the producer.

This whole thing is his baby, make no mistake.

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i dont think giving up is the best thing to do, we are being fed bit by bit with bits of information. We will eventually find out what this thing is, why it's there. Now im not saying we are gonna get all of this, directly after the movie. Hell maybe tagruato will release a statement after the movie is released say like 1-25-08, giving their side to the story, our what they want us to believe. Time will only tell, but giving up is the wrong thing to do.


and He is just producer, Matt reeves is the director.

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Sequel

I remember begining to talk about a sequel after the teaser and some of the viral came out. The viral (and possibly a Slusho! drink) could tide us over until a sequel. Just as I wholly suspect Sector 7 will begin functioning again before Transformers 2, or like The Lost Experience, will continue to function when the new season is ready.

I was doubtful of a sequel when I saw the teaser, but seeing the media coverage and even how active this forum has become with the new info, we could see this "cultural experience" really become just that, an entire experience.

Lambo_Diablo_Svtt wrote:
Ehh... ONE sequel possibly. But stop there. DO NOT reuse a good thing too much, otherwise it becomes ruined.


If this is done with large and small monsters, as a Monster/Horror film (as I hope it is), then multiple sequels isn't such a bad thing. The Friday the thirteenth series is great. The alien vs predator comic series is great, but then again you couldn't force feed me another AVP movie... If done well, which I believe it will be, this could expand and be that special series of films everyone remembers in the late-00s/early-10s. People will remember the first time they saw Cloverfield with much the same reverence as when people remember the first time they saw Star Wars. I know I'd say "I rememeber ordering my tickets online 3 days ahead of time, and waiting in line for hours outside the theatre to get a good seat for the first showing of Cloverfield"

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For a very good portion of the movie, I don't think the monster will be seen at all, until WAY into the movie, we get a look(same as seen in the trailer). I think it would be more of a built up, suspenseful scenario anyway.

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JJ already has a smoke monster, and that one pissed people off enough already (I'm still hoping there's a Giganotosaurus under all that smoke). Odds are, this monster won't be as disappointing. Of course he'll give us zilch in the trailer, but come movie time, I'm expecting he'll give us something good. Maybe it'll only be for a few seconds, and maybe it'll be so dark you can't get anything more than a general idea of something huge and terrifying, but it'll at least be visible and pleasingly awesome enough. Then, when it comes out on DVD and HHDDVVDBVD, we'll finally get a good look at Mr. Grumpypants (and he'll make a killing off sales and rentals).

Ultimately, it's JJ who decides what the monster looks like/what it is. Smoke monster was a bust, so he's gotta go for something more traditional. Not showing it in the movie would be a terrible waste, unless he plans to do a sequel (as CheshireCat pointed out), he's got a tie-in videogame coming out, or if he's got some sort of action figure deal worked out with Todd McFarlane. Personally, I'd like it if the latter were true, and we still got to see the monster in its entirety.

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I would like the monster to be shown, but not too much. Keep the suspense going, for the majority of the film just show different bits of it, like the shot in the trailer. Then when we least expect it, give us a several second shot of it (adjust for maximum dramatic effect).

BTW, I like the smoke monster (but only in Lost, I want a real one for this film)

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wait for the video game

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