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 		I just wanted to throw this out. It's obvious, but I had no connections to the previous game.

Is it safe to assume everyone knows Whitechapel was the location of the Jack the Ripper murders? It's also where the Salvation Army was started. Joseph Merrick (Elephant Man) was exhibited in a shop there as well before being helped by the doctor that later cared for him.

These little bits may have no bearing here but you never know.
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 		More from everyone's favorite post-grad correspondent
Thoughts on Simson lines: Sumerians are Babylonians, right? Babylon was known for its mathematics. Google popped up some interesting information. Apparently a famous Babylonian tablet, the Susa Tablet, describes how to find the radius of a circle through the vertices of an isosceles triangle.

Well, if you're going to use Simson lines, you need just such a circle, yeah? Coincidence?

The correspondence:
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Dear Mort,

Good point. No one from the New York office mentioned anything on the inside flap of the envelope, but it's worth a question. I'll check.

As you might expect, Christopher is generally quite busy and it seems that he has been even more so the past couple weeks. We've traded some notes and calls but he's in and out. I'll try to pin him down on whether that anagram means anything to him in Hindi. I checked 'Hansel' against our records myself and there was nothing case-specific, just the expected fairy-tale references.

Very interesting point on the geometric angle. We do get quite a few calls about shapes and symbols; crop circles, symbols scrawled on people's bedroom windows in grease pencil, symmetrical cloud formations - what you might expect. This appears to be a pretty simple triangle, which obviously echoes the 'three' of the message. Simson lines, huh; how would that work without the circle?

Regards,

Ethan Grant
Associate Researcher
The Whitechapel Foundation

ethanSPLATwhitechapelfoundation.org
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Additions to the supplemental page not previously posted here:
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From "Nate" via E-mail; 11/29/07 - 16:15

"…While it's impossible to be sure at this point, It appears the first letter refers to the 3 kings/wise men, while the second lists 2 men and deity, only one being a king (assuming it refers to Xerxes). Are there any references to the 3 kings/wise men in your past research?.."

Reply to "Nate" by Ethan Grant via this note; 11/29/07 - 20:31

Nate, the only official case we have on record that even remote references the Three Wise Men is a letter we got from a woman in Liverpool in 1996 saying that a box containing a dead goldfish, a package of hot dogs, and a lump of chewed Wintergreen gun had miraculously appeared on her doorstep. We did not investigate. I'm sure you are wondering, so I will note that I am not kidding. -EG


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mortality wrote:

That would make our sentence "three king only commanded the wise". Makes somewhat more sense with the story of the Magi and Nebuchadnezzar, the Babylonian king.

"hinohi" and "enlehs" become the 2nd letter variants.


Would the sentence make more sense if it read "The wise king only commanded three"? Just thinking because the word 'king' is singular, it wouldn't make sense with 'three' as the adjective.
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Dear Sebring,

Having not actually read any of AC myself I'm afraid I can't comment on any parallels to what we are seeing with OC0701. Couldn't really tell if your note was suggesting that Djinn Productions might be behind these letters, but if so I find it extremely unlikely that Djinn would mess around with one of their clients in this way. From what I understand Autumn Country is an experimental storytelling project that deals with the nature and power of stories (kind of self-referential). I know it deals with myth and folklore, but those are pretty broad subjects. I just don't see how there could be any direct link between that project and the letters we've gotten (especially when you consider that the letters actually exist whereas AC is known to be purely fictional).

Regardless of any connection, though, I think you make some very interesting points in your letter. When you rearrange the words from the 1st letter as you did it really does make you think of the three wise men. As for the 2nd, Enlil seems to refer directly to the Sumerian, but Ahasuerus could either be the Persian king or the Wandering Jew. The W. Wallace reference, if it is William, seems out of place. So it seems likely that there is a connection or some commonality between the three.

I'll post your thoughts at the site, since they raise good points even outside the AC references.

Thanks,

Ethan Grant
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The Whitechapel Foundation


I was browsing DevaintArt.com and noticed JadeMacalla, one of the people at Djinn, had posted this
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Howdy, Comrades.

Still tabulatin'. Should have the results of the contest very soon (you knew it was going to be very tough Wink ).

In the interim, I wanted to tell you about a project that one of our clients (Djinn's client, I should say) recently started. The client is the Whitechapel Foundation, a sort of think-tank interested in the paranormal, that primarily does academic research but also investigates claims of the supernatural and such.

Their new project is called Open Cases, and with it they are making the details of some of their cases open to the public to help research. They are hoping to get feedback from a large group of people who can bring their unique talents and fresh perspectives to the cases.

The project just started this week and it looks like they're already in the midst of a pretty odd situation. If you are into that sort of thing, you may want to check it out.

More soon,
Jade


Figured I'd post it here... To anyone coming over from DA. Welcome ~Glad to see more people joining the insanity.
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 		Lets head this off at the pass.
I don't like pointing fingers so I won't. However, let it be known that we are ALL equally collaborating to hopefully solve many puzzles, figure out a story & become friends. ie. No exploding at each other over petty stuff.
It's a game; Lets have fun!
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This message will self destruct in 1 day.

and hopefully be replaced with a puzzle solve (cross your fingers)!

Now on a completely different note and possibly an even more important one.
It is of the utmost importance that everyone interacting with In-Game characters does so with the idea in mind that we are in the same world as Whitechapel Foundation. Not interacting with characters in the proper "This is Not a Game" fashion can lead to dire consequences as I can personally attest to.
My Meta-paradox email to Ethan was a test to see if WCF was aware of AC or not and it seems they are but don't see any connection. So, while we might be able to cross reference stuff to AC storyline, actually referencing AC when dealing with characters isn't getting us anywhere.

From Ethan's blog
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There's a fairly major project under development by the IT Director to open up some of our case files and make them available for review and discussion by the general public in forums like YouTube, blogs, etc. I'm really hoping to do something on that project.

It makes me think that we will be seeing something pop up on YouTube, probably soon, and we should be on the lookout.
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 		I wouldn't say that IG discussion of Autumn Country is off-limits just yet. The two links we have are that both the WCF and Calvin Michaels play roles in the AC stories. And here they are in our game.

Ethan's the newest employee at the Foundation and apart from a couple interviews/orientation meetings he works primarily from Tennessee, not the New York office. He wouldn't necessarily know anything about AC yet. Especially if the Foundation's big secret is that the AC stories are real. Or that the Foundation is a front for one of the organizations in AC like The Enclave.

So...Ethan will be a dead end on that for now. And as he's told us, the other characters are too busy to appear just yet.

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wkelly42 wrote:
mortality wrote:

That would make our sentence "three king only commanded the wise". Makes somewhat more sense with the story of the Magi and Nebuchadnezzar, the Babylonian king.

"hinohi" and "enlehs" become the 2nd letter variants.


Would the sentence make more sense if it read "The wise king only commanded three"? Just thinking because the word 'king' is singular, it wouldn't make sense with 'three' as the adjective.


Actually, yeah. That makes much more sense, though to modify with absolute precision: "The wise king commanded only three." It's nice and grammatical. "The King commanded only the wise three" may also work.

Also, that wording could indicate that the "king" isn't one of the people in the triangle3 letter, but is some 4th person we've not seen yet.


Would we need a "crypto"zoologist to look aftre our cyphermonkey? Razz
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 		hate to double post, but...
So one of my department's grad students (who does not follow ARGs and who has no idea about any of this Whitechapel buisiness) just walked into my office a few minutes ago and said, "have you ever hear of Anunnaki?"

Razz

I so hope this has no relation to our story. My grasp on reality is tenuous enough as it is. Wink
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According to Christopher Patel
http://whitechapelfoundation.org/opencases/?page_id=12

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Distribution: To those assisting case OC:0701

Subject: Case status as of 30 Nov 07

First, I'd like to thank everyone who has become involved in this first open case. We have been surprised, and very pleased, by the amount and quality of the participation in this project. Your involvelment and insights to date are showing just how powerful large, diverse groups of people can be in the solution of complex problems.

As odd as it may sound coming from an organization such as ours, this case is very different from most we are involved with. In almost 100% of our cases the Foundation acts as an objective 3rd party charged with documenting and investigating events that impact other people. In this case, though, we are directly invovled; the mysterious letters are addressed to, and are apparently intended for, Whitechapel.

With the substantial work that has been done thus far, primarily by you, our collaborators in the field, I thought it would be good to document the Foundation's thoughts, actions, and questions regarding this case at present.

1) The Foundation has received 2 letters, delivered in a similar, anonymous manner, which both contain crytpic messages. It is obvious that the 2 letters are related and, based on the hand-written numbers contained in each, may be sequential.

Note: Since the letters appear to be numbered, we are identifying the letters by that number, hence the first letter we received with the book list is referred to as MSG2.

2) Although the delivery method and content are mysterious, the Foundation does not believe the letters represent a threat to the organization or its personnel. The Foundation is not, and has not been, involved in any activities that would have generated animosity from past clients, subjects, or colleagues. However, in these times the possibility of a random threat cannot be discounted. To that end we have increased security measures at our New York and London offices.

3) Regarding the words and names that have been extracted from the messages thus far, we have cross-referenced them against Foundation archives and, for the most part, have found no obvious connections to past cases. The exception is with the name 'W.Wallace' which is noted in the main entry for the case.

The Foundation's main points of interest at this time are:

1) Who is sending the letters and why?
Based on the initial research into the two letters, the Foundation believes that there are two possibilites regarging 'why' the letters are being sent.

a) It is the work of someone who is deluded to some degree and there is no meaning.

b) The sender is relating a specific message in a way that they feel is likely to entice the Foundation into some action. The nature of this action is, of course, so far unknown.

2) What is the correct decoding of MSG2?

3) What is the meaning of the decoded content of MSG2?

4) What is the correct decoding of MSG3?

5) What is the meaning of the decoded content of MSG3?

6) Do the messages from the two letters relate to each other? If so, how?

7) If the messages are related and sequential, is there an MSG1?

We will continue to post new information as it becomes available, and we hope you will do the same. Again, thank you very much for your assistance with this investigation.
Very best regards,

Christopher Patel
Director, Research & Investigations


More email ("-" indicates Ethan's reply...he Fisked it):
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On Nov 30, 2007 4:08 PM, <ethanagrant> wrote:

-Hey Mort. Sorry about just getting to this one, been keeping an eye on the F accounts mostly.

On Nov 29, 2007 12:53 AM, Mortality wrote:

Dear Ethan,
As far as we can tell, this has nothing to do with tennis shoes. It's worth trying to figure out where all these clues lead. At the very least, we should find out who'd want to get your attention like this.

-Agree completely, we feel this is one of the top priorities.

You all at the WCF have any enemies we should know about?

- Naw, we've talked about this at length, even with Mr. Kennedy. We aren't aware of anyone who would have a real problem with us. We often don't find evidence to substantiate a person's claim of the paranormal, but we are not in the business of hardcore refutation.

Sebring said he passed along some of what we uncovered about the second note. Sebring passed along the details that form the most coherent picture. There were some additional tangents: Ahasuerus may have to do with any number of references in the Old Testament or possibly the Wandering Jew legend.


- Got that and posted. Those points are as good as anything else we've seen so far.

Just to make sure we didn't miss anything from the first note, here is some background on the books:

Invisible Cities is Italian magical realism. Marco Polo converses with Kublai Khan about cities he visited.


-If Olivia Newton John comes into this I'm handing in my resignation.

In the Hall of the Dragon King is the first book in a fantasy trilogy. "A dying knights urgent plea propels a disenchanted young acolyte into a deadly mission. On the shoulders of the unsuspecting Quentin rests the course of a kingdom; and ahead of him, a quest that will lead him out of the darkness of the old gods . . . and into undreamed-of spheres of conflict, magic, and light."

Labyrinths is written by the founder of Latin American magical realism.


-Borges is also nearly revered by some big-brained folks like Eco and Gibson as one of the godfathers of POMO lit.. As a matter of fact, I think Gibson did the forward to one of his books. (That would be William, not Mel - Hold on! Mel Gibson -> Braveheart -> William Wallace!!! How the hell do you people stay sane.

Janissary Tree is a mystery set during the waning of the Ottoman Empire. "an appropriately exotic tour of a time and a place where intrigue, deceit, and corruption fueled perilous personal and political passions."

Wise Woman is a collection of fantasy stories.

Our friend, or friends (the second note was not addressed by the same person as the first note), have interesting taste. Old gods, magic, intrigue. Could be a wild ride.


-Well, at least a lot of what we do brushes against "Old gods, magic, intrigue", so at least that won't seem too out of the ordinary.

-I've been wondering about MSG3, though. The fact that the names are all connected together with the triangle. Makes me think that there might be some commonality between them. (Or the sender may just like Triangles - he had 2/3 of one in MSG2). But Wallace, being a real person and all, seems to make that commonality pretty unlikely. Oh well, more thought - I really want to know the story behind this.


-Ethan


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Ethan,
I think you already replied to that one, although not in so much detail; I CC'd both of your email addresses when I sent it. That was before I figured out one account was best for reaching you during the day and the other after hours.

You mentioned that the organization doesn't have enemies, but could any of your colleagues at the Foundation? Kind of awkward to inquire about someone's personal life like that, but it's also kind of awkward if someone's personal life leads to anonymous notes addressed to their employer. Might be best to let Christopher handle that. He probably knows how to be delicate and tactful.

As for Mel Gibson and Olivia Newton John...who said we were sane? Following diabolical leads cooked up by incredibly manipulative people with questionable grasps on reality? We must be nuts, but it's fun as long as it doesn't keep you up at night. But even though you poke fun, you seem to have intuited an important lesson: not all connections are meaningful.

It's a weird double-edged version of Occam's Razor (pardon the abused metaphor). The simplest solution is usually right, at least when it comes to solving puzzles. But the crazier the connections are in the story, the more likely you're on the right track towards figuring out the big picture.

MSG3's meaning still isn't very accessible, yet. (Thanks for the filing shorthand, by the way.) You asked how we'd apply Simson lines without a circle. Honestly, we don't know what it would get us even if there was a circle. But funny you should ask that question, because following the Sumerian connection, it turns out that there's an ancient Sumerian mathematical tablet, the Susa Tablet, that describes how to find the radius for a circle around an isosceles triangle. An interesting coincidence.

Still working on links among the names. Wallace is the real outlier since the other clues all seem to have Sumerian ties: King Ahasuerus would have ruled over Babylon, Enlil is a Sumerian god, the Magi were sent to Jesus by a Babylonian king.

Best wishes,
Mort


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 		I'm interested to see where this goes. I can't really fathom solving these puzzles until we have some more information, so I guess we'll have to wait. One thing to note (if it is even notable): piechart's comment has disappeared from the blog post.

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 		now *this* is why I like their stuff. We go from sumerian myth to late-70's-roller-disco-fantasy movies to umberto eco in very short order. Add to that the fact that ethan can take one bad Crowley pun and return 4 more!

I am beginning to suspect that we may well have the answer at hand; I also think there's a MSG01 (or whatever the notation is) that we'l see eventually.

Also, the fact that William Wallace is the only one of the three that clicks with WC's past files almost certainly means that he is not the W. Wallace on our triangle...almost, mind you. Could also mean that the names are irrelevant and that the real message is tucked in there in some less obvious way.
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noam wrote:
I'm interested to see where this goes. I can't really fathom solving these puzzles until we have some more information, so I guess we'll have to wait. One thing to note (if it is even notable): piechart's comment has disappeared from the blog post.


It was reposted as an update to the Supplemental page.

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 		I was curious
so I emailed Ethan
This is what I sent to ethanagrant at gmail.com
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On Dec 1, 2007 5:37 AM, Sylvia wrote:

Hi Ethan,

I'm one of the group helping with the oc:0701. I haven't written to you before but I am Sylvia.

Anyways, I'm sure you are busy so I will get straight to the point. Do you remember What it was
that you received from Anonymous? Is there a chance it could have anything to do with oc:0701?

If you think it might be connected or you are not sure, then is there anyway you could
share it with our group. Maybe post it on your blog so that we can have a gander at it.

And, you really peaked my curiosity on this, what creative method did Anonymous use to contact you?

Sorry to be so to the point but I expect your time is limited for such email as this considering all the
more important stuff you have to do.

Also, I'm the one who come up with the idea of using the Simson Line to try and solve MSG3. However,
it appears I had the wrong William Wallace. So sorry about that. But for the life of me, I can't seem to
come up with a common denominator between the three names. Not to mention where others see ENLIL
I see in reverse LINE with the middle L removed. But I did try to solve it using the Simson Line and got a
strange line of alphabet that looks something like this: LILSUREUSW.WALLACHASUERUSECALLAW.WEN
(not exact- memory eludes me at the moment) I know that's not right, but regardless it looks an awful like an url.
for example: somethingx.whitechapelfoundation.org. This maybe way off base but any light you can shed on
the matter will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
Sylvia

This was his reply: (bold is mine)
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Hi Sylvia,

Nice to make your acquaintance. You know, quite a few people have asked about that so it probably is a good idea to post a note about that. I'll do that.

I was intrigued by the idea of the Simson Line when I heard about that! Are you a mathematician? The part that is so interesting to me is the symbology of the construct that is used to derive the line. As I'm sure you are aware, geometrical symbols often figure in aspects of what we research; from alchemy to summoning to strange signs and symbols that people find in odd places. After doing a little research (and I am by no means a "big math brain") I tend to agree with you regarding the use of a Simson line to manipulate the letters of the names, but it's hard to shake the image of circles and triangles and lines all intersecting to form strange geometries.


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ethanSPLATwhitechapelfoundation.org

Distribution: WF Open Cases Correspondents

[We apologize if you have already been made aware of the content of this message. We wanted to contact everyone who has registered at the site or corresponded with us directly, but, of course, we do not know which of you are working together and may therefore have already heard the content of this message under separate cover.]

RE: MSG2

Based on various E-mails and comments regarding deciphering the message, it appears that the most likely possible word orders, assuming a normal grammatical structure in American English (which we realize is a big assumption), are:

1) The wise king was only three.

2) The wise king commanded only three.

3) The wise king only commanded three.

4) Wise three commanded only the king. [seems like a stretch, but possible - EG]

We would like to know your thoughts regarding which, if any, of these is the most likely word order and your reasons why.

Also, if you do feel that one of these is the correct word order, we would very much like to know your thoughts on the possible meaning(s) of that sentence?

Thank you for your continued assistance with this case,

Ethan Grant
Associate Researcher
The Whitechapel Foundation

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Posting a note to clarify something from last month. Some folks have asked about the reference to the anonymous message I received back in the middle of October, wondering if it might be somehow related to the messages that the Foundation has been receiving.

I'm almost certain they are in no way related. The message from back in October was specific to a case I have been working on that has to do with sightings of a large black animal, either cat-like or dog-like (reports vary, you know how it is) in eastern Tennessee. Two of the reported sightings were by people who were on their way home from Dollywood.

Without getting into too much detail (for obvious reasons) the anonymous message in question dealt with the "reliability" of one of the people who had reported a sighting of the creature. The message came to me via E-mail, but the E-mail had been bounced through at least one remailer and there were a couple of other ways by which the sender took steps to remain anonymous. I think I know why, but like I said probably better to keep it broad. At the time, I thought this method of getting a note to the Foundation was sort of unique (live and learn, huh).

So I really don't think that message and the recent ones are linked in any way, but to all of you who asked, it was a good lead to pursue.


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