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[WF][Trailhead] Whitechapel Foundation: Open Cases
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Sylvia
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 		lmao
"[google]Odds fish[/google]" basically means crazy.

I'm laughing cause it's odd how we see people so differently. I agree more with Typoxic than I do with you guys. Here is my take on Slider. He is Very Serious, Very Sure of Himself yet Friendly and Jovial at the same time. In other words a friend to the end or an enemy to be reckoned with. Someone whose bad side you don't want to get on and someone you most definitely want on your side.

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badaim68
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 		QS gets to the crux of the matter
Latest from QS...and I have to agree with Sylvia that I'm really starting to like him (although he deserves to be shot for the Koi pun Laughing ).


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My Dear Paul,

"Adept" would be nearer A mark, but THE is so final, so definitive, don't you think? Sink me, young Paul, why the unhealthy fascination with labels? Must we define ourselves so? Maybe we simply are what we are, pimples and all. And I'm afraid we're going to have to get out the crap-cutting machete to wade through the thicket this time 'round. "...somebody who knows what true power and influence are..."; puh-lease, Paul.

Of interest is your description of your interaction with our dear friend the smoke eater. You say she directed you to me? How passing strange. I'll admit that my interactions with the she-wolf have been - by choice - very few and far between, but one hears things, and this one has never heard anything about her doing more that answering direct questions. A semantic foible, perhaps. We'll leave it for now.

Ah, back to young master Phillip. Now we get to the rosy crux of the matter, eh? And again you surprise me. You see, we pimply-faced, Machiavellian acolytic adepts are fond of nothing more than our little secrets. So why, I ask you, and not at all rhetorically, would I know what types of shenanigans Phillip was getting up to. Would it not be true to say that he spent a large portion of his time making sure that I did not know what we was doing. Nor anyone else. Would it not be true to say that is what we all spend all our time doing? (Well, perhaps not ALL.) Yet you seem to know a great deal about his "activities", Paul. How is that, I wonder?

As to your goldfish, let's not be koi. That's a clearer yes than most I get.

And here at the end of the road we finally reach some truth. Well spoke, young Paul, well spoke. Amusement and curiosity, two great tastes that go great together, wouldn't you say? But you miss the 3rd, and most intriguing, Paul; self interest.

We love our secrets, true, but we also love to do our deals, don't we? At the risk of seeming just a tad gauche, what's in it for me, Paul? What tidbits can you bring to the party?

QS


It would appear that Sylvia was also right about being upfront with him.

The thing that jumped out at me was the "rosy crux of the matter". After the comment about 31 May 1875 which linked to Eliphas Levi I believe he is hinting at Rosicrucianism. Levi visited novelist Edward Bulwer-Lytton who was president of a minor Rosicrucian order, and together they wrote a treatise on magic. Rosicrucianism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosicrucian deals with the Brethren of the Rose Cross and has links to masonic ritual and alchemy. It also consists of Adepts.

I'm tempted to come clean about everything (about Philly and Smoke anyway) but unsure as to how much to divulge re WC (if any). We don't have any other tidbits that he'd find useful anyway.

There is still part of me that doesn't think this is Slider....his way of writing doesn't seem to square with what little we know of Slider.

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Sylvia
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badaim wrote:
I'm tempted to come clean about everything (about Philly and Smoke anyway) but unsure as to how much to divulge re WC (if any). We don't have any other tidbits that he'd find useful anyway.

Here my suggestion, We backtrack. Tell him something like this, "we were on a stake out out and about, don't ask that's a tale for another day, but we saw a guy walking up to the (location goes here) a very bright light went off and he fell over, then an SUV pulled up but because of the bright light we're unsure about what happened to the guy. Afterwards, while investigating the site we found a matchbook that had Petra's email on it. Sylvia hit it off well with Petra right away and Petra told us about Philly contacting Smoke. (Tell him as much as you feel comfortable doing so here) From that, we figured out how to contact Smoke and the key to getting her to answer our questions. We asked about you because Petra mentioned to Sylvia that you were a friend of Philly's and that you were a nice guy, etc., etc...." If necessary we will bring up Whitechapel at a later date. One step at a time.

Next, what are we looking to gain from QS? Because once you come clean with him you need to start grilling him for the answers we need. Not all at once, though. Give and take evenly. Make it last.

Our mysteries:
1. What exactly did happen in St. Pete.
2. Where is or What has happened to Philly
3. Spearmint and Reality Now
4. Brighton Early
5. Open Cases 0702 and 0701
6. Just who the heck is Whitecapel anyways?

I think you get the jest of if. It's all yours badaim. Your doing a great job. Don't stop now.

edit: to clarify the stake out junk.

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petunia
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 		blog post from Ethan
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My Google mojo…
Posted on February 4, 2008 by ethangrant

…done fell out of the canoe. Or whatever it is they paddle around in down on the bayou.

That only makes slightly less sense than it probably should, so perhaps I'm feeling better. Amend that. I am definitely feeling better. Best I've felt in over a week. Pretty much back to, if not tip top, at least fair to middling. I'll avoid going on about just how bad it was, because there is only one thing more boring that trying to tell other people about your dreams and that is telling them about how sick you were (or worse, how sick you still are).

Unfortunately, I was so sick that I wasn't even able to turn my bed-riddenness to something useful like thinking about my personal caseload or thinking about the Open Cases. As I was feeling better over the weekend though, I got the super bright idea of pointing the old Google at MSG4 and seeing what turned up. Heck, I figured, I'd had good luck with this hack before and I was probably still a little loopy so what the hey. I put in "duke" "manchester" and "confusion" (the rest of the words seemed too common to matter) and all I got back for the 1st five was music, taverns, and trivia related to possibly one of the real Dukes.

Oh well, maybe something else will hit my post-fever-addled brain. Hope all y'all are doing well. Let me know if you have any cool thoughts. I'll do the same (but I can't promise they'll be less than 48 degrees…).

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 		"48 degrees"?

In the first three pages of google results, the only likely possibility I see is:
A google books excerpt of
"The Sealed Book Of Daniel Opened Or A Book Of Reference For Those Who Wish to Examine the Sure Word of Prophecy"

Ain't that just a mouthful?

ETA: The book's introduction ends on page 47.
There's an interesting graphic in the first section as well.
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badaim68
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 		Jade's thoughts on QS
Sent the QS email trail to Jade for his view:


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42. Wink

Hey there, Let's see;

1st thought: self important twit.

2nd thought: interesting choice of words, on many more than one occasion. A very close reading with an eye, or an ear, to the lingo causes me to revise my 1st thought to read "self important FOP!" "Odds fish", what a card. Tell him to give my regards to Anthony Andrews. Very Happy

3rd thought: last time I heard someone use that vocabulary in something close to that tone he was in the midst of not being at all what he seemed (see 2nd thought, I'm sure you get my meaning). Any chance that this cat is slipping you a Mickey?

On further reflection, I'm sure I'm reading too much into it. Probably just a theatrical sort. But it wouldn't surprise me if he is serious about the barter or the quid pro quo or whatever you want to call it, also the secrecy. I'll put a fiver on his name not being anything close to anything you've heard. These people and their secrets, for cryin' out load. You got anything you can trade?

More soon,
Jade


The "42" refers to the fact i asked for his thoughts "on the emails, not just your internal musings on the Universe!"

For those of you who may not know Anthony Andrews is an English actor who tended to be typecast in foppish roles (I.e Brideshead Revisited)

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Typoxic
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 		I'd be tempted to skip the stakeout thing altogether and just say we were out for a stroll and happened to see something suspicious. He'll know it's a lie, but maybe he'll also know that why and how we saw what we did is irrelevant. Then again, I said we should be straight with him, so maybe disregard what I just said. I'll backpedal. We can tell him about the Scarpelli document and where it led us without bringing Whitechapel into it. We're a separate group, right? There's no reason to mention WC; the story fits together just as well without them.

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Sylvia
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Typoxic wrote:
I'd be tempted to skip the stakeout thing altogether and just say we were out for a stroll and happened to see something suspicious.

yes, I agree. We discussed that in chat last night. At the time I wrote the post above, I couldn't think of a better word or phrase and just wrote the first thing that popped into my small brain at the moment.

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petunia
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 		Heh, "stakeout" is what I've been calling our late nights on Skype waiting around for Smoke to show up, or not.

"Odds fish" and Anthony Andrews both point to The Scarlet Pimpernel. This Slider really gives me the feeling of somebody from an entirely different generation.

As for Jade's question - DO we have anything we can trade? I'm not sure telling him how we found him will be enough. I guess all we can do is offer it and see what he says. We don't really know what his interests are.

Googling "smoke eater" with "she-wolf" nets one fabulous result: http://books.google.com/books?q=%22smoke+eater%22+she-wolf&btnG=Search+Books
The Cult of Tara: Magic and Ritual in Tibet by Stephan Beyer.
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petunia wrote:
"Odds fish" and Anthony Andrews both point to The Scarlet Pimpernel. This Slider really gives me the feeling of somebody from an entirely different generation.

A lot of my friends (including myself) have jarring and outdated modes of speech. He's probably twentysomething and full of himself (like me and my friends). No one talks like that without it being an affectation, from any generation. He also seems like he talks differently when he's not making fun of people for saying weird things; phrases like "crap-cutting machete" come to mind as looking more representative of his normal phrasing.

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badaim68
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 		what can we really offer?
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Oh my! So we move in those circles, do we? In my experience, there are nine of those, they are concentric, and they lead ultimately to a land of traitors. Not to say that you are one, dear Paul, nor our chum, young Phillip, only that one must be careful what one hears. Especially if one is the type to act, as well as listen.

A fine yarn, fair Paul; a tale of intrigue, lost love, and missed opportunities. Its narrative structure leaves a bit to be desired, though, wouldn't you say? Strong opening, captivating middle, but where's the end? Ah yes, p'raps that's where I come in? Alas, tis not to be. At least not yet.

You say that young Phillip and I are friends. Now, supposing for a moment this were true, what kind of friend would I be if I went round spinning yarns, second hand, about my dear comrade. It could be that he doesn't want you to know these things. It could even be that knowing these things might give you some sort of - and here I dread even saying the words - advantage over young Phillip.

You see, Paul, I move in the kind of triangles where information is, quite literally, a powerful thing. From the vantage of your circles I'm sure you know what I mean. Don't get me wrong, in the spirit of Quid Pro Quo, as you so aptly put it, I am inclined to reciprocate, but you still have not allayed my suspicious nature by answering my very first - and really the most important, wouldn't you agree - question; namely, why? Why do you want to know, Paul. Why in the world should I answer your questions?

In good faith, and in the spirit of this marketplace of free ideas we have going on here, I will answer your last query;

Young master Phillip is not involved with any groups, nor with any other individuals that I know of. He is a lone walker down the boulevard of life, at least to my observations. You may say "Fie, I've caught you, rascal, in a snare, what of his lady love?" To which I would reply that there is little of mutual regard or respect betwixt Phillip and his many paramours. Those "involvements" have always seemed distinctly one-sided to me.

I find it interesting, and even just a tad disquieting, that you use the past tense in referring to our friend. I do hope you'll explain when you bring your stakes back to the table.

QS



The nine circles refers to the nine circles of hell in Dante's Divine Comedy (the ninth reserved for traitors).
The triangle motif also crops up in is email.....perhaps I should ask if he knows a William Wallace Wink

The real issue is what we tell him about why we want to know? I've gone down the Philly/Petra/Smoke route to no avail. The only thing we have left, that is relevant to the events in St Petes, is regarding the coded ritual found in the Scarpelli library....that would certainly pique his interest....and I don't believe we have any viable alternative at this stage. Views?

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 		The whole idea, I thought, was to ultimately tie this back to Scarpelli. We should tell him we're trying to trace that document, and that path has now led us to him. It seems like a theme is cropping up in this game: keeping secrets hasn't netted us much success so far. Maybe it's just too early to tell if secrecy would have been the right way to go at any point, but it looks now like it isn't.

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 		Re: what can we really offer?
QS wrote:
You say that young Phillip and I are friends. Now, supposing for a moment this were true, what kind of friend would I be if I went round spinning yarns, second hand, about my dear comrade. It could be that he doesn't want you to know these things. It could even be that knowing these things might give you some sort of - and here I dread even saying the words - advantage over young Phillip.


Is it just me, or does he seem a little protective of Philly here? It might not hurt to assure him that we're concerned for Philly's safety, thinking he might be into something over his head etc.... not looking to score one on him or something. (OTOH he could be baiting us, expecting just the opposite... gah, this guy's too tricky, I need more coffee... Coffee)

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Don't get me wrong, in the spirit of Quid Pro Quo, as you so aptly put it, I am inclined to reciprocate, but you still have not allayed my suspicious nature by answering my very first - and really the most important, wouldn't you agree - question; namely, why? Why do you want to know, Paul. Why in the world should I answer your questions?


I'm afraid he's got us there. Why DO we want to know? Why is it any of our business? Petra doesn't particularly care, and WC all but told us to butt out. So basically we're being nosy little bastards... nope, even I won't vote for going that route unless we truly have no moves left.

Okay then, I guess we tell him about the Scarpelli doc then. But how much? Do we just say we came across it, or what? I assume we're not bringing WC anywhere near this guy yet.

Oooh, it's Feb. 6th... Reality Now's ID of some "initiation" is at 7:15pm in London (local time?) at coords (51.512108, -0.120120). Here's hoping something interesting happens!

EDIT: Hey, we're stickied! Um... why?

Uh, anyway, those coords look to be the location of a Turkish restaurant called Sofra at the corner of Tavistock & Wellington (36 Tavistock). Looks more like a back room, actually. I wonder if they're having any private parties tonight? ^^ http://www.sofra.co.uk/
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 		Re: what can we really offer?
petunia wrote:
EDIT: Hey, we're stickied! Um... why?


SpaceBass probably stickied it; we're going to start stickying some of the games that have proven themselves to be non-implosive ARGs. It should make it easier for new players to find quality games. Smile
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 		Yay! Thanks, SpaceBass (or his proxy)! Brownie

Awesomeness. Now we just need an easy way to convince new players who "just want to get in at the beginning" of an ARG... (okay, stopping... now.) Wink
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