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11808fan
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Joined: 29 Oct 2007 Posts: 23
[SPEC] Handheld camera view versus "typical" movie view Could be way off base, but it's been bugging me... OK, I've got one for you -
We've seen several shots of obvious hand-held camera views, but we've also seen several shots of non-handheld views.
i.e. the face-up of Rob and seven hours ago, versus the view from WAY up high to see fighter jets bombing mr. grumpypants (love that term, btw, whoever came up with it). And we keep getting these high-quality stills of movie action (like in the interview with whats-her-name with the 12 pictures in an album).
So. Did they really climb up to the top of some skyscraper and lean out a window (or on the roof)? After they stood in the street and saw that one building tipped over (seemed like that shot happened at a similar time/place, but I could be wrong there)?
My point is that I'm not sold on the whole movie being hand-held, and my biggest piece of evidence is the shot of the jets.
Input? Comments? Does anyone care?
Edit: Tagged. -SpaceBass
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:53 pm
Melampus
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Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 653
I was wondering about those shots also - the one with the jets, and also the shot of the decapitated SOL, where the camera revolves around the statue.
Those can't be from Hud's camera, unless they were taken in the helicopter (before it crashes). But, I don't see that - for one thing, the sky looks like a pre-dawn white when they're in the chopper, and those other shots are at night.
They could just be for the trailer only - just to spice things up. Or, it might be that the footage we see from HUD's camera isn't the only footage "recovered" from the attack. Maybe we'll see other text intro's to other bits of footage before we get to HUD's footage..?
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:58 pm
tMan930
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From the beginning I imagined it as someone having found the camera, and people are watching it long after it's happened, and as they watch the handheld footage it fades in to the professionally filmed stuff, to actually tell the story that's happening.
It's never been officially confirmed whether or not the entire movie will be handheld, correct? Hell, I don't even believe things that have been officially confirmed, frankly.
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:33 pm
Lambo_Diablo_Svtt
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Joined: 18 Aug 2007 Posts: 914
personally, I think the movie will be done with a professional quality image, but "shakeycam" and slower focusing effects almost all the way. The few scenes that arent would probably be after the camera is recovered.
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:06 pm
e2c
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Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 338 Location: What is this for? Bob's got cancer - We'll miss you bob!
did anyone here see southland tales yet? the scene right at the beginning where u see a nuclear bomb exploding well reminded me of cloverfield. (was also filmed with a handheld cam etc)
maybe thats the "new thing" in hollywood
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:08 pm
Jaxe
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Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 18
Well if it is all hand held there's more than one camera man.
You see the helicopter take off, and then from inside as it crashes.
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:10 pm
Melampus
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That doesn't have to mean 2 cameras - instead, it could mean that Beth or Lily get taken away in a chopper (the one we see lifting away from the camera), and then at another time, Hud, Rob, et. al. are in a chopper that's going down. Still 1 camera.
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:16 pm
Nerva
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Joined: 06 Oct 2007 Posts: 8 Location: Wisconsin
i do only hope its one camera and there are no typical movie cameras used for this film. its far more interesting to me if someones using a real life camera to film it all than dong what every other monster movie has done thus far. but you never know. just going to have to wait for the film to be released to see if those scenes are actually in the film or not.
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:12 pm
Her
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Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 160
Lambo_Diablo_Svtt wrote:
personally, I think the movie will be done with a professional quality image, but "shakeycam" and slower focusing effects almost all the way. The few scenes that arent would probably be after the camera is recovered.
I tend to agree with this. some of both. the handheld can only capture so much information. there would have to be other camera work to allow the movie to flow.
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:16 pm
KLind
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Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 928 Location: Columbus, Ohio
I thought we knew it would be a mix of the two...
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:22 pm
Red Walrus
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Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 589
KLind wrote:
I thought we knew it would be a mix of the two...
That's what I think too. It's that one mysterious picture (maybe production still) of Marlena exploding. You see Rob reacting to Marlena exploding and you see from the other side of the curtain(Hud's view?) the exact same moment of the exploding woman.
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:00 pm
m_talon
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Joined: 27 Nov 2007 Posts: 142
Bookends and inserts New poster, long lurker, etc. so on. Been posting on other boards about Cloverfield, but I decided to break in my unfiction account.
I think that the movie will be "bookended" with normal movie-style footage but the bulk will be in Point-of-View. Going back to that other famous POV movie, Blair Witch, the original plan was to open and close the movie with investigators going over the footage. These scenes would have presented the backstory that was later done online and in the mockumentary. The decision was made later to let the POV video stand on its own. That sorta worked, but many viewers missed out on a lot because they didn't understand some of the references.
I don't think that people would be satisfied with just POV footage for this monster movie. We need the establishing shots like the SOL and the destroyed city. We expect scenes that just wouldn't make sense for a normal person to shoot (like long takes of the monster...I'm sorry, if I see a huge beast coming my way, I'm running). Thus, I imagine that we will get normal footage as the beginning and maybe the end and even less likely interspaced into the regular footage in the form exposition breaks ala Titanic.
HOWEVER, I do think that the publicity stills we've seen are just that, publicity stills. They wanted them to look good, so instead of POV scenes they actually did professional photography. I don't imagine we will see those stills in that form as part of the movie. Most likely, we will see them from POV, and they will go by very quickly.
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:02 pm
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