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[INFO][SPEC]Slusho! ingredients
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kosmopol
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 		[INFO][SPEC]Slusho! ingredients
Lets analyse Slusho! ingredients! (And sorry for my miserable English)
OK, the analyse of Dr. Abe and his Ravaille Research Center got some achievements about the ingredients of Slusho!

I've looked up in wiki and other sources and asked my good friend who has good knowledge about food chemistry, and here the first informations about the ingredients of Slusho listed in the report of Dr. Abe.

If you have some knowledge or corrections about these ingredients, write it down, and I'll update this list.

At first, in the ingredient list of Dr. Abe there aren't any concentration data, so various concentration may cause various consequences.

Seabed's Nectar ('kaitei no mitsu")
=> this is naturally a key ingredient from "Cloverfield" universe, so about it we haven't any scientifical information till the next report of Dr. Abe Wink

Carbonated water,
=> just mineral, "sparkling" water like they use it in usual drinks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonated_water

glucose,
=> sweetener and energy for organism, used in usual drinks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucose

sodium citrate,
=> flavour and preservative, used in usual drinks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_citrate

vitamin [C? aka ascorbic acid]
=> vitamin C is most used vitamin in usual drinks, so perhaps it is really C

D-pantothenol,
=> here we come! My friend says, D-pantothenol in a drink is absolutely in the wrong place, usually it is used for medicaments and cremes as health protector and healer element. The only drink I know using D-pantothenol is Boo Koo, which has similiar ingredient list with Slusho. D-pantheol occurs inter alia in beeswax!
So here we have perhaps one of touch points of Bold futura and Tagruato with ParafFUN!

citric acid,
=> come also almost in every drink
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citric_acid

oleoresin,
=> also in very wrong place. It isn't used in foods at all.
But: it has a connection with Gozilla, read this:
Quote:
Akira Ifukube, who wrote and composed the music to numerous Godzilla films, also created Godzilla's roar by rubbing a resin-covered leather glove over the loosened strings of a double bass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleoresin (ok, it redirects to "Resin")
Who knows, perhaps our Cloverfield monster is roaring in the similiar way???

gelatine,
=> also used in various kind of foods
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelatine

sucrose acetate isobutyrate,
=>stabilizer, is synthetically produced,
used in drinks as weighting agent,
but it is disadvised to consume it in huge dosis
can cause allergical reactions
here the German site I used:
http://das-ist-drin.de/glossar/e-nummern/e444-saccharose-acetat-isobutyrat/

"However, no recommendation was made for an acceptable daily intake by man." http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecfa/jecmono/v17je28.htm

phosphoric acid,
=> used in popular drinks (like Coke), but isn't healthy (like Coke) Wink
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphoric_acid

carob bean gum,
=>made from Carob tree (it is speculating [doesn't proved] about Carob tree as a cancer "pathogen"),
is used e.g. for preventing regurgitation by children
in medicine
and also in various drinks and foods
http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecfa/jecmono/v15je06.htm

potassium benzoate
=> can be synthetised, but in nature it occurs in... honey! (other ParafFUN! connection?)
Like this German Page
it is preservative, but not such healthy, e.g. for small animals, like cats, it is poicon even in small dose.

After other sources, its combination with vitamin C (ascorbic acid) produces benzol, which causes cancer. And: benzoate occurs in some drinks we drink, people.

So, these are the things I've got from our researches. If you want to add something, feel free to comment, I'll update it.

P.S. I fear, these thread could be deleted - not by Paramount, but by various drink producers, because of the whole unhealthy details, Smile

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smartmart
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 		email to slusho
I don't know this has been done, but I emailed from the "distribution opportunities" page's link mentionning the RRC article. I wrote that I would like to invest in Slusho! but that I needed explanations about the issues found by Dr. Abe.

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 		ParafFUN's wax comes from petroleum, not bees.

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 		As far as I know D-pantothenol and potassium benzoate can also be synthesized, so perhaps ParafFUN synthesize these two components from petroleum.

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 		Re: email to slusho
smartmart wrote:
I don't know this has been done, but I emailed from the "distribution opportunities" page's link mentionning the RRC article. I wrote that I would like to invest in Slusho! but that I needed explanations about the issues found by Dr. Abe.


Cool. I also wrote Tagruato a supporting Email, I'm curious about the answers.

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 		Re: [INFO][SPEC]Slusho! ingredients
Lets analyse Slusho! ingredients! (And sorry for my miserable English)
kosmopol wrote:
oleoresin,
=> also in very wrong place. It isn't used in foods at all.
But: it has a connection with Gozilla, read this:
Quote:
Akira Ifukube, who wrote and composed the music to numerous Godzilla films, also created Godzilla's roar by rubbing a resin-covered leather glove over the loosened strings of a double bass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleoresin (ok, it redirects to "Resin")
Who knows, perhaps our Cloverfield monster is roaring in the similiar way???


Sorry... but this isn't exactly true. Smile "Oleoresin" is a general term that means a resin that's oil-soluble. Paprika Oleoresin, for instance, is occasionally used as red food coloring. I don't think there's much out of place here.

Additionally, d-pantothenal may be a reference to the provitamin of B5, panthenol. Vitamin B5's chemical name is pantothenic acid, is often found in energy drinks. Like you said, Boo Koo is the only energy drink featuring d-pantothenal, but Red Bull and many others include the actual vitamin in their recipes.

I think the ingredient list is there to show us Slusho is no different from your basic soft drink, except for the seabed's nectar.

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 		I think Dr. Abe is a clever homage to J.J.Abrams... so therefore any 'doctor' behind it would actually be an alias of the mastermind behind it all.

I also think that any Heroes tie-ins (I know, this isn't the right thread, but everything's mentioned in every thread at this point) is just a publicity stunt. I bet he's netted thousands of Heroes fans to go see Cloverfield just by asking the stars to take a couple pictures with the drink and to subtly slip it into an episode. I don't think the two universes are going to collide, that totally ruins the realism of the movie.

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 		Re: [INFO][SPEC]Slusho! ingredients
Lets analyse Slusho! ingredients! (And sorry for my miserable English)
gypsy songman wrote:
Sorry... but this isn't exactly true. Smile "Oleoresin" is a general term that means a resin that's oil-soluble. Paprika Oleoresin, for instance, is occasionally used as red food coloring. I don't think there's much out of place here.

Additionally, d-pantothenal may be a reference to the provitamin of B5, panthenol. Vitamin B5's chemical name is pantothenic acid, is often found in energy drinks. Like you said, Boo Koo is the only energy drink featuring d-pantothenal, but Red Bull and many others include the actual vitamin in their recipes.

I think the ingredient list is there to show us Slusho is no different from your basic soft drink, except for the seabed's nectar.


Thank you for additions amd corrections. Perhaps it is truely usual ingredient list... Anyway, I'm very curious about "kaitei mitsu" Smile

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 		Re: [INFO][SPEC]Slusho! ingredients
Lets analyse Slusho! ingredients! (And sorry for my miserable English)
I am new to this Cloverfield ARG (but not my first ARG), so I apologise if I repeated something that has already been said before.

I am also very curious about this "seabed's nectar."
And after some thinking, I am wondering whether this so-called " nectar" is an edible form of Silicon Dioxide, aka. Silica, that's what essentially glass, sand, or rock crystal quartz are. And any seabed is covered with it.

Silica has been known to be one of the food additive in powdered food.
And it has also become one of the trendy health food around the world in recent years, as it has health benefit for improving the condition of nail, hair, and skin. In order words, it is like an edible cosmetic or beauty product.
They might come in liquid form or added to other liquids such as water as to make a drink out of it. I am not so sure about that though. But it's very possible.
After all, tablet form of Silica / Silicon Dioxide is readily available in health food stores.
And for producing higher purity of commercial grade Silica, it's usually done by mining it in its crystalline state, usually the Rock Crystal Quartz as it's most abundant in earth and the most inexpensive variety in the Quartz family.

The only problem I have with this theory is, it should not be very difficult to identify Silicon Dioxide in any of their different states.
Having said that, there might also be a possible & rational explanation to answer the aforementioned problem.
Usually, Silica mining does not need to be under water or sea.
But these days, people are mining deep down in the ocean for various reasons. Such as experimental harvesting of Methane as an alternative form of energy to replace fossil fuel; or to mine other valuable or precious metals and minerals such as what's happening now in the ocean near and around Papua New Guinea.
So I would not be surprised that if this "seabed's nectar" is made from some form of Silica via the deep sea drilling that Tagruato claimed to be doing on their website.
Moreover, if the discovery of giant squid in the deep ocean last year is any indication, then probably these "Silica from the deep sea" might be somewhat inherently (chemically or physically) different from the regular Silica we see on the market today, so they could not be recognize using scientific analysis straight away by Dr. Abe.....

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