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[SPEC] Why the name is Cloverfield used in the movie
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clownnation
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 [SPEC] Why the name is Cloverfield used in the movie
Trying to get a think tank on this

Ok, Like everyone else Im very xcited about the new information. The trailer obviously is exciting. I am also very intrigued by the article with the Actress FINALLY debunking the image of the TWO girls.

My big question right now (besides Hammer, Cheese, Mit) Is why is the attack on NY given the name of Cloverfield. A name like that would most likely be given by one of two sources.

A. Obviously the Military. I am in the Military and I know when operation call signs are designated they ant just random titles. It ussually pertains to something that relates to the mission, or situation. So why would the Military/Government call it Cloverfield. I dont believe we have any leads on this angle

B. A civilian group with high enough participation in the matter would also use a "Code name". Obviously Tagruato comes to mind here. We have many theories about the involement of this corporation. They either discoverd the creature, or they made the creature.

Since Tagruato has been discussed and the website been disected I think we should look for Cloverfield clues there. Clovers are ussually pictured as having 4 leafs. (people dont care about the more common 3 leaf clover) Whenever you see a graphic of a clover, it has four leafs. Now Tagruato has 4 subsidaries. Slusho, Parafun, Bold Futura, YMR

Also the Original name for Tagruato translated to "Hand of Power" sounds ominous to me. Maybe project cloverfield was an endevour that the Four Subsidaries all had a part in.

Most of this is my speculating. I was just wandering if anyone else had an idea or theory on why the name Cloverfield is used to describe the Incident.


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Please [TAG] your post (if you think it warrents it's own thread despite the number of other threads already discussing the topic of the movie title).
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Re: Why the is Cloverfield used in the movie
Trying to get a think tank on this

clownnation wrote:
I was just wandering if anyone else had an idea or theory on why the name Cloverfield is used to describe the Incident.


Personally, I'm still hoping for a better name (read: a monster name).

Anyway:

"Grown in an agricultural field on the island of Hokkaido, Japan, these organisms create the appearance of cloverfields."

Regarding John Murphy's post from August 7, I get the sense that many unfictioners have discounted it. I certainly didn't like it when it first surfaced, but the more we learn, the more I'm inclined to believe Mr. Murphy was on the money. Anyone want to dissuade me?

I guess I just feel there's some sort of irony at play here. The movie was spoiled months ago, but for the fans.

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Re: Why the is Cloverfield used in the movie
Trying to get a think tank on this

Eddy wrote:


Personally, I'm still hoping for a better name (read: a monster name).



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I actually know what it means.

Okay, listen up boys and girls...

Woman by Wolfmother was playing in the trailer, right? Well, in one of the songs, The Joker and the Thief, it talks about 'a field of clovers' or something, and JJ must like the band (a lot do) and put that as the song.

Yes, I solved the name mystery. GASP

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Well, going by the text in beginning, Cloverfield IS the name of the monster.

"Multiple sightings of case designated Cloverfield"

It could quite possibly be the clue we need to figure out the monster.

Sadly, all my investigation into it so far has yielded absolutely nothing. I can't think of any sort of double meaning, nor is there anything deeper to "clover" beyond it being..well...clover.

I haven't even bothered running anagrams, because A. I'm sure those would've been found if they were there and B. An anagram is not going to jump out to the public who go to see this movie. I have a feeling the answer is going to be a "DUH" moment when we all see it. There has to be a logical link between "cloverfield" and "giant ass monster".

o.o potential hit. Out of desperation, I start glancing through Wikipedia. I found this:

The cloverleaf interchange is named for the resemblance to the leaves of a (four-leafed) clover when viewed from the air.

So...maybe the monster looks like a cloverleaf?

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Awhite2490 wrote:
Well, going by the text in beginning, Cloverfield IS the name of the monster.

"Multiple sightings of case designated Cloverfield"

It could quite possibly be the clue we need to figure out the monster.

Sadly, all my investigation into it so far has yielded absolutely nothing. I can't think of any sort of double meaning, nor is there anything deeper to "clover" beyond it being..well...clover.

I haven't even bothered running anagrams, because A. I'm sure those would've been found if they were there and B. An anagram is not going to jump out to the public who go to see this movie. I have a feeling the answer is going to be a "DUH" moment when we all see it. There has to be a logical link between "cloverfield" and "giant ass monster".


The trailer actually says "designate" instead of designated...that has always thrown me off a bit too. I wonder why.

I'm reading the article on Encyclopedia Brittanica, here is an interesting quote:

"The very small, fragrant flowers are crowded into dense heads, or spikes." Spikes is an interesting word here.

Also, it says they provide valuable nourishment.

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Personally, I think it's just a codename. Like Operation: Firehawk or something. No real meaning associated with it (aside from what we already know -- but all that's "real world" meaning, not movie)

That said, how about Gigantasaurus Tex?

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saneman wrote:
Personally, I think it's just a codename. Like Operation: Firehawk or something. No real meaning associated with it (aside from what we already know -- but all that's "real world" meaning, not movie)

That said, how about Gigantasaurus Tex?


I believe someone on the boards from the military said the names do coincide with what the operation is about.

I can see it meaning something. I mean, that's what the name of the movie is, not just the name of the operation.

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Lol, ya, it sure does coincide. Look at this list of names for operations in Afghanistan: (from Wikipedia):
Anaconda — U.S. effort to capture al Qaeda members and Talibans in Afghanistan
Apollo — the Canadian Forces' operation in support of the United States forces in Afghanistan
Asbury Park — U.S. offensive into southern Afghanistan
Athena (2003) Canadian Forces contribution to ISAF in Kabul.
Avalanche (December 2003) — U.S.-led offensive of Afghanistan
Haven Denial (July 2003) — U.S. and Italian operation against Taliban remnants and Al Qaeda fighters in southeast Afghanistan
Headstrong (2003) — British special forces secretly training Afghan commandos to seek out and destroy drug labs
Lightning Resolve (launched August 2004) — involving thousands of troops to protect the Afghan presidential elections on October 7
Mountain Resolve (launched on November 7, 2003) — U.S.-led operation in Nurestan and Konar provinces, Afghanistan
Mountain Viper (late August, 2003) — U.S.-Afghan attack on suspected Taliban forces in Zabul province, Afghanistan
Nibbio — (March 15 - September 15, 2003) Italian code name for Enduring Freedom
Slipper — the Australian Defence Force's contribution to the invasion of Afghanistan
Warrior Sweep (July 23, 2003) — first major military operation of the Afghan National Army


I'm glad the Aussies were wearing slippers for that one!
Also, the Brits are too headstrong. Sad

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konamouse wrote:
Please [TAG] your post (if you think it warrents it's own thread despite the number of other threads already discussing the topic of the movie title).


Sorry, I posted this as its own thread because everyone that i see is discussing Cloverfield as the name of the movie. This thread is about the in movie name for the incident. I wanted to get peoples thought on this in hopes of finding something that may help us know more about the monster.

Also feel free to make fun of me, but what do you mean by tag?

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Guess military guy/girl was wrong.

Still, I think it is likely that the name cloverfield means more than just the case title.

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Im the "Military guy"

I cant speak for other countries but I assure you there is a rhyme and reason behind the names we give as operations. Most of which arent too obvious to the public (we dont want to spell our plan to the enemy do we?) The people involved with the operation are versed in the reasonling for the name. If the Military named an operation/mission/sortie/event as"Cloverfield" I assure you there is a reason for it. I cant give you all the guidelines for designations (I dont know them all anyways) but there is a reason

For example. Operation Anaconda was so named (in part) because of the amount of caves that were to be search while looking for Bin Laden, we were going to slither from cave to cave trying to find him. Im sure there are other reasons for the Designation.

But all thats beside the point. I doubt (In the movie world) that when the monster attacked, or was discoverd, that someone just thought... oh lets call it Cloverfield for the hell of it... I started this thread with the hopes of trying to nail down something...

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[SPEC] Designate is an adjective
"Designate" not "designated" bugged me too

At first I too thought "designate" was a typo, however I know "designate" could be used as an adjective, but I'm rusty as to its meaning:

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/designate
chosen but not yet installed: ambassador designate

So is it an IG/OOG reference to the fact the movie name will not be Cloverfield!? Shocked


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