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natas
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 		Ok.. I already sent him the email to wait ... If someone figures out the pill is ok to take, please email him. I told him team UF would be in touch.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:41 am
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Sylvia
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 		Sine
I think we found our Leo
possible hint to the password:

Euler's famous formula

e^(pi i) = -1

and

e^(2 pi i) = e^0 = 1.

Leonhard Euler

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonhard_Euler

Could Euler be the password?

Well, I tried it several ways no luck for me. Have fun guys.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:53 am
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Sylvia
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tokkii wrote:
Fluoroquinolones are broad spectrum antibiotics. Cipro is the brand name of one of them. Wasn't that the one they were pumping during the anthrax scare a few years back? If that's all the pill is, and he does have pneumonia or some sort of bacterial infection, it would make him better. We're back to bacteria.

Fluoroquinolones have some NASTY side effects, it's because they are very powerful antibiotics. It's number 2 of the big guns, right after Vancyomyacin. FYI that is spelled VERY badly. My mom had several MRSA and antibiotic resistant infections (Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus) so she was put on some powerful antibiotics including Cipro. Made her lose her sense of smell.

So, yeah he should wait on that pill for now, but if he gets worse he better take his chances.


I agree, I was just grabbing at the first straws I could find.

Man this is so convoluted. from Pies to Sin to DNA. There is no way I can wrap my brain around all that, though I'd love to be able to.

edit: How rude of me, I hope your mom is better.

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natas
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 		euler???
it's not pronounced how it's spelled... but pronounced OILER... as in oilerfan271??? coincidence?

Thanks sylvia for the wiki link... I noticed the pronunciation first thing.

Reading more of the wiki,, "e" is also known as Euler's number.

Euler introduced and popularized several notational conventions through his numerous and widely circulated textbooks. Most notably, he introduced the concept of a function and was the first to write f(x) to denote the function f applied to the argument x. He also introduced the modern notation for the trigonometric functions, the letter e for the base of the natural logarithm (now also known as Euler's number), the Greek letter Σ for summations and the letter i to denote the imaginary unit. The use of the Greek letter π (pi) to denote the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter was also popularized by Euler, although it did not originate with him. Random idea (Could that be a sigma notation in one of the "spring blips" in the video?

so he came up with e,f,i,pi,and sigma

EDIT: Also hope your mother is ok tokkii

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Sylvia
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 		Very good observation natas and making the association. You are going to crack that password yet. I know you will.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:30 am
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natas
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 		Nope going to bed.. gonna have to wait til tomorrow unless someone else gets it tonight.. Good luck... Pe@ce

crap NM found something else... Euler's IDENTITY:
e^{i \pi} +1 = 0 \,

He also created the gamma function (which I know is one of our mysterious blips from the video, just to lazy to look right now... somebody look this up back in the thread sylvia posted a pic)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_function

he also created the symbols for SINE, cosine, and tangent.

Man this guy was the math pimp of the 1700's Too much this late at night pe@ce

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miki_38x1
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 		Yeah, Euler was a pretty cool guy, but the important thing to note with him is that he did not discover a bunch of mathematical constants. Euler was a good mathematician but he is best known for popularizing notations and coming up with new ways to work with them. The number e was first discovered by a guy whose name started with an "N" and Bernoulli used it in continuously compounding interest. Pi was something Archimedes was working on long before Euler was close to being alive. And sigma notation is nice.

As for relating sine and whatnot with e and i, I may have a nice little formula that will do the trick. Haha. And if for some reason you all want to know about Euler's contribution to lower-level calculus or complex analysis and number theory, I can really go on for days. Smile

e^(i*x) = cos(x) + i*sin(x)
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Areia
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 		I just looked at the source code for the bullerman front page again, and now there's a section of white-on-white text that says:

Quote:

= 72.92970606 (dont forget the 0)
E4A6D8A4D6E8D5E6A8A4D6E8, play on JB, play on


Nothing before the equals sign. Just what's above.

EDIT:

Ah - I know where that number comes from:
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e * pi * e * pi=72.92970606

So is that the password? I've tried variations of epiepi, epiepi, e*pi*e*pi, etc, but I'm not sure of the user name either.

Then there's "don't forget the 0" - so we need to add a zero somewhere?

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Sylvia
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Areia wrote:
I just looked at the source code for the bullerman front page again, and now there's a section of white-on-white text that says:
Quote:

= 72.92970606 (dont forget the 0)
E4A6D8A4D6E8D5E6A8A4D6E8, play on JB, play on

<snip>

Ah - I know where that number comes from:
Quote:
e * pi * e * pi=72.92970606

<snip>
Then there's "don't forget the 0" - so we need to add a zero somewhere?


Well if e * pi * e * pi=72.92970606 and we continue to multiply by 0 then:

e * pi * e * pi * 0= 0

and there is that code again, that we have yet to figure out:

E4A6D8 A4D6E8 D5E6A8 A4D6E8

What are we missing??

back to researching.

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natas
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 		Re: Steve' code
natas wrote:
The original was translated to..hex
E4A6D8A4D6E8D5E6A8A4D6E8

translated to decimal
228 166 216
164 214 232
213 230 168
164 214 232

these are legitimate RGB color values... don't know how they correlate to our problem of passwords though...


still haven't emailed steve back though... sorry I won't be able to help ANY today.. be gone most of the day.... good luck... Pe@ce all

EDIT: all bullerman;s previos passwords were numerical maybe this one is too

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Areia
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 		Sylvia wrote:
Quote:
Well if e * pi * e * pi=72.92970606 and we continue to multiply by 0 then:

e * pi * e * pi * 0= 0


I know - multiplying by 0 completely negates the previous clues. Not much point going through all that just to have the answer be 0. So maybe we need to add 0 to the end of the answer? Or somewhere else? I'm really stumped.

There's the "play on" comment as well. May just be friendly banter, but with the repetition I'm inclined to think there's a clue there too.

Oh yes, and Steve's code. That's been on a piece of paper on my desk for days, and it still makes no sense.

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Sylvia
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 		Areia, I didn't mean for that to sound like you took it. I was just getting my thoughts down. Kind of like talking to myself. My notes are such a mess that I can't make heads nor tails of them. So, I post things that I don't want to lose in that mess.

and I agree "play on" what does he mean?? more questions and I got to run, don't have time to think about it like I want. See you guys later tonight.

Good luck. Hope someone breaks that password.

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Areia
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 		Oh don't worry - I didn't read anything into that. Sorry if it sounded like I did. Just agreeing with you.

There are just too many clues right now, they all look like they should fit together, but I don't see how they do, or how they relate to the mail page login.

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natas
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 		I do that a LOT also sylvia don't feel alone.
Some things worth mentioning (probably red herrings)
Euler's IDENTITY: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler%27s_identity
Steve's email to me : I vow you slow chest death. I sine Leo.
mystery video images : large e, pi, gamma notation???, weird face????
Steve's unbreakable code : E4A6D8A4D6E8D5E6A8A4D6E8
previous passwords : e (271) e,pi (271314)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:34 pm
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Sylvia
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 		gonna throw one more thing in then I got to run.

example e*pi*e*pi can be written like this (e^2)*(pi^2) so if we continue like that and bring in the 0 we have this:

((e^2) * (pi^2))^0 = 1

because anything to the power of 0 equals 1

haven't tried any of this in the password. if you guys have time maybe 1 is the answer.

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