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[Question] Tidowave.com?
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R4ph43L
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 		Re: Here's a thought
airteff wrote:
It says Ichigawa's home computers are missing... could maybe Jamie's package have something to do with it, like a laptop or a hard drive or something


Hmm....it's unlikely because of the fact that Jaime recieved the package a while back, and the incident occurred just a few days ago. Hopefully the people running this thing are trying their best to align the timelines.

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airteff wrote:
This is the last line of the story about the hack

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Of course, we have no idea who did the hacking but, whoever it was, they are ingenius, a great supporter of our cause, and undoubtedly ruggedly handsome.

Yeah, that kind of kills the logic that the clues in the defacement were supposed to be giving us the name of this site. I also notice that it only speaks of one hacking, not two, and speaks as if the hacking would be very short lived. The first one lasted more than 24 hrs.
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 		Seems pretty legit...For now.

There are a few names mentioned like PR people and the such that I am going to look into closer, I dont remember seeing them anywhere else, like Suzume Soga.

If this is a game jack, they put a ridiculous amount of effort into it.

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 		Nothing about SLUSHO! they probably are researching the deal with the Seabed Nectar...

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R4ph43L
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Euchre wrote:
airteff wrote:
This is the last line of the story about the hack

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Of course, we have no idea who did the hacking but, whoever it was, they are ingenius, a great supporter of our cause, and undoubtedly ruggedly handsome.

Yeah, that kind of kills the logic that the clues in the defacement were supposed to be giving us the name of this site. I also notice that it only speaks of one hacking, not two, and speaks as if the hacking would be very short lived. The first one lasted more than 24 hrs.


Well it DID say it wasn't they who did the hacking, just someone who supported them. They also stated "for however short a time it ends up staying." meaning they had NO idea how long it was going to last.

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 		well the site design is inspired by (or an inspiration for) the hack image, so i'd bet a crisp $10 bill that they are just denying responsibility to keep their published activities legal

plus with a description like "ruggedly handsome" and "ingenius" they eliminate all of us as possible suspects.

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 		I'm gonna play it and hope it's not a game jack. Cuz right now we don't have much, they have info about this death. And Tidowave does make sense.

Anyways I left them a comment about the memo and the handwritten message, hopefully I'll get an email back and this is part of the game. Since we've got nothing new right now might as well try

Edit: If you'll notice the news story about the hack is the same day as the hack. And yeah I was getting at that T.I.D.O is behind the hack because of the ruggedly handsome line but they won't admit to it for obvious reasons

Oh yeah and apparently when the Chuia station was being built the noise scared off lots of sea creatures from there normal migration routes

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Ajking3 wrote:
Seems pretty legit...For now.

There are a few names mentioned like PR people and the such that I am going to look into closer, I dont remember seeing them anywhere else, like Suzume Soga.

If this is a game jack, they put a ridiculous amount of effort into it.

The hardest part if this is a gamejack is managing to backdate the domain registration, unless they flat got lucky with already creating a domain name. As to how far a person is willing to go to create a gamejack, look at the bogus 'NY1' second trailer someone put a lot of effort into shooting.
R4ph43L wrote:
Well it DID say it wasn't they who did the hacking, just someone who supported them. They also stated "for however short a time it ends up staying." meaning they had NO idea how long it was going to last.

I'd think you wouldn't want to so strongly implicate the ones you are supporting when you do a hack. Kind of screws up their claim of being 'non-destructive' too. My point about the duration of the hack vs what they blogged is that they didn't post about the second hack or update the post about it, or about it's duration.

There are some other peculiar and relatively incongruous things about this, like the use of a Gmail address when they have a domain to use, and talking about Tagruato being evil 'since 1945' - when we already know the company name wasn't Tagruato until about 2004, certainly no earlier than 1989. If this is an official site, it's got the most continuity flaws of anything we've seen so far.

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dtmkoatw wrote:
well the site design is inspired by (or an inspiration for) the hack image, so i'd bet a crisp $10 bill that they are just denying responsibility to keep their published activities legal

This is another good point, as it presents two things:
1. It contradicts the assertion that they know nothing about the hacks
2. It'd be too easy to take the imagery already available and create the banner to suggest the site's authenticity - when in truth we should expect something more original from an official site

Another thing about backdating the domain - obviously you can post lies about who a domain is registered to, and most of the people following this are quite the geeky bunch. Some here on the forum have worked or still do work in such internet circles, and could create such a falsified record (or know someone that could). It's just not impossible, and for anyone following this and wanting to gamejack - they learn from previous jacks and have a guide to doing a better job. This means things like using godaddy and Domains By Proxy.
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Euchre wrote:
Ajking3 wrote:
Seems pretty legit...For now.

There are a few names mentioned like PR people and the such that I am going to look into closer, I dont remember seeing them anywhere else, like Suzume Soga.

If this is a game jack, they put a ridiculous amount of effort into it.

The hardest part if this is a gamejack is managing to backdate the domain registration, unless they flat got lucky with already creating a domain name. As to how far a person is willing to go to create a gamejack, look at the bogus 'NY1' second trailer someone put a lot of effort into shooting.
R4ph43L wrote:
Well it DID say it wasn't they who did the hacking, just someone who supported them. They also stated "for however short a time it ends up staying." meaning they had NO idea how long it was going to last.

I'd think you wouldn't want to so strongly implicate the ones you are supporting when you do a hack. Kind of screws up their claim of being 'non-destructive' too. My point about the duration of the hack vs what they blogged is that they didn't post about the second hack or update the post about it, or about it's duration.

There are some other peculiar and relatively incongruous things about this, like the use of a Gmail address when they have a domain to use, and talking about Tagruato being evil 'since 1945' - when we already know the company name wasn't Tagruato until about 2004, certainly no earlier than 1989. If this is an official site, it's got the most continuity flaws of anything we've seen so far.


They use the companies original name in the history post about it on their bulletin It's much easier to say Tagruato evil 'since 1945 than to say Tagruato evil since 2004 japenese name evil since 1945.

Also fyi for everyone the group that tido is a part of Les Guerriers de Mère-Terre means Warriors of Mother Earth in french incase you didn't know

Edit:Euchre sorry I missed you edit. Yeah the banner does strike me as off, but then again whoever is running this site did seem to elude to himself being the hacker... since the site is anonymous tagruato would have a hard time

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 		The gmail account is incongruous and doesn't seem to follow the other sites.

But, the 1945 date is referenced in the company history as when Kantaro Tagruato founded his mining company.

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 		Le Bandit Vert
The Green Bandit.

Eco Terrorist. Cool.

"Les Guerriers de Mère-Terre"
The warriors of Mother Earth

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 		This is really exciting. I'm not a religious person, but when I go to bed I'll say a prayer for this NOT to be a game jack.

But, on another note...

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Another thing about backdating the domain - obviously you can post lies about who a domain is registered to, and most of the people following this are quite the geeky bunch. Some here on the forum have worked or still do work in such internet circles, and could create such a falsified record (or know someone that could). It's just not impossible, and for anyone following this and wanting to gamejack - they learn from previous jacks and have a guide to doing a better job. This means things like using godaddy and Domains By Proxy.


Not to be mean or anything, but thanks for giving future game jackers ideas, if they haven't already had them. Rolling Eyes

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dtmkoatw
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Euchre wrote:


1. It contradicts the assertion that they know nothing about the hacks



i'm reading that denial with a huge *wink* hidden in the meaning


Euchre wrote:


2. It'd be too easy to take the imagery already available and create the banner to suggest the site's authenticity - when in truth we should expect something more original from an official site



true, could have borrowed the hack image elements to make this, but ultimately we're talking about a storyline that the creators are trying to advance, it makes sense it would be a short jump from the hack to the next step, visually...

the strongest statement to me remains how perfectly TIDOwave fits into the previously mysterious graphic

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Katw0man wrote:
This is really exciting. I'm not a religious person, but when I go to bed I'll say a prayer for this NOT to be a game jack.

But, on another note...

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Another thing about backdating the domain - obviously you can post lies about who a domain is registered to, and most of the people following this are quite the geeky bunch. Some here on the forum have worked or still do work in such internet circles, and could create such a falsified record (or know someone that could). It's just not impossible, and for anyone following this and wanting to gamejack - they learn from previous jacks and have a guide to doing a better job. This means things like using godaddy and Domains By Proxy.


Not to be mean or anything, but thanks for giving future game jackers ideas, if they haven't already had them. Rolling Eyes

Don't worry they already know and the problem with that is that those are the servers the virals use, it's maddening sometimes

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the strongest statement to me remains how perfectly TIDOwave fits into the previously mysterious graphic


My thoughts exactly

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 		Seems a very sophisticated for a gamejack. It's a nicely put together site.
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