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[SPEC]Tidowave.com is it OOG or is it IG
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Ivo
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Marauder2001 wrote:
Euchre wrote:

Sure you have the software to capture the images.
Windows:
1. Hit the Print Screen (Prnt Scr) key.
2. Open Microsoft Paint.
3. Click Edit>Paste.

Mac OS X:
1. Open Grab (found in the Applications>Utilities folder).
2. Click Capture and choose from Selection, Window, Screen or Timed Screen.
3. Click Edit>Save As.

Tada!
Very Happy


Well I would have liked something a bit more mangable than Paint to play with... Maybe I better go look for photoshop on limewire! Smile I thought there maybe was a better way to capture images in a flashmovie than via PrntScrn, but I'll give it a shot tomorrow after my exam. Smile


Try Gimp, http://www.gimp.org/, it's free and not bad.

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Patrick Star
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Marauder2001 wrote:
Euchre wrote:

Sure you have the software to capture the images.
Windows:
1. Hit the Print Screen (Prnt Scr) key.
2. Open Microsoft Paint.
3. Click Edit>Paste.

Mac OS X:
1. Open Grab (found in the Applications>Utilities folder).
2. Click Capture and choose from Selection, Window, Screen or Timed Screen.
3. Click Edit>Save As.

Tada!
Very Happy


Well I would have liked something a bit more mangable than Paint to play with... Maybe I better go look for photoshop on limewire! Smile I thought there maybe was a better way to capture images in a flashmovie than via PrntScrn, but I'll give it a shot tomorrow after my exam. Smile


You know, best of luck on that exam. Tell the Doctor to warm his hands first.

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Euchre
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Marauder2001 wrote:
Well I would have liked something a bit more mangable than Paint to play with... Maybe I better go look for photoshop on limewire! Smile I thought there maybe was a better way to capture images in a flashmovie than via PrntScrn, but I'll give it a shot tomorrow after my exam. Smile

There's free legal software out there to edit images with on Windows.
The GIMP is largely as powerful as Photoshop, but I find it a little less easy to use and it definitely doesn't have all the tools Photoshop does - and it makes up for it with a few unique ones of it's own AND being free.
There's also IrfanView, which is pretty limited in it's editing abilities but can display (and play) about anything you can find. Thanks to being able to handle so many formats, it can also convert most to something more manageable.
Lastly, for any OS that can do Flash, there's a site that will look almost exactly like Photoshop to the casual observer:
http://www.splashup.com/splashup/
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 		Re: Another in a long list of reasons
that www.tidowave.com looks like a oogjack!
Ivo wrote:
Patrick Star wrote:
The organization was started in Paris in 1982, however, they have just discovered that they can communicate with the rest of the world with a website in November of 2007. If this was IG, don't you think the PM's would have peppered the site with comments that were a little older than Nov. 2007?

And speaking of comments - they let things like this through;

Ganu Yoshida
12/02/07 11:08 pmha!!!! you think that you can stop me? TRY IT!!! muahahahahaha!


The whole forum on there has degraded to a sloppy seconds version of the Cloverfield IMDB forum.

If www.tidowave.com is IG it is a poor excuse to meet an arc in this story line. SUX. Rolling Eyes


That seemed suspicious to me too. I should say I wanted it to be in game. If its in game now, its a really crappy game. What attracted me to this was how surreal it all felt when I first discovered everything. Tagruato, the myspace pages, Slusho! It was all too cool, and now . . . this. Doesn't really fit, and if it does, its terribly dissapointing. If Tidowave.com is IG I can only assume that the movie will suck more than JJs biggest mistake (Armageddon).


Yeah, I'm thinking they let that post through because it's obvious parody. It's like having a site against McDonald's, having a place for people to put comments and someone posting as Ronald McDonald.

Nobody believes it actually IS Ronald or whatever but they allow it because it's taking the piss out of the company.

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 		But still, they are not really moderating, they let most comments which have OOG references, and are obviously fake in.

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 		Hey this thing still going. neat.
So let me address some stuff, see if I can't knock some of you fence riders off to the dark side.

The "ganu" comment being let through, as caerwiden said was probably let through with the idea that it was parody of what a megalomaniac is thinking. As I stated in my first post, these comments are being moderated unless you see my comments on penises, aliens, and vaginas somewhere in there. If i was gamejacking and willing to put the effort into reading comments looking for ridiculous things then I would certainly be careful enough to not arouse suspicion by letting through some outstanding, yet still with in game mentality, comments.

As for them barely discovering the internet even though they been around since the 80's, give me a break, tagruato's website was put up this year and they been around since the 40's and under the tagruato name since the 90's.

I think you are forgetting that PM doesn't equal infallible story weaving geniuses. Besides if the clue for finding tidowave.com wasn't going to be put up until nov 24 then why register months in advance. These are people all subject to the same procrastinating flaws we are. Besides the less time the website is up the less likely it will pop up prematurely because of all the references to tagruato being made on it. Imagine if it was up 2 months ago and some one searched "tagruato" -slusho or something. The website would be found way before intended.

So I welcome more arguments and hope against hope that time travelling psychics with lots of time on their hands aren't looking to make an ass out of me.

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 		Re: Hey this thing still going. neat.
tomathan wrote:
So let me address some stuff, see if I can't knock some of you fence riders off to the dark side.

The "ganu" comment being let through, as caerwiden said was probably let through with the idea that it was parody of what a megalomaniac is thinking. As I stated in my first post, these comments are being moderated unless you see my comments on penises, aliens, and vaginas somewhere in there. If i was gamejacking and willing to put the effort into reading comments looking for ridiculous things then I would certainly be careful enough to not arouse suspicion by letting through some outstanding, yet still with in game mentality, comments.

As for them barely discovering the internet even though they been around since the 80's, give me a break, tagruato's website was put up this year and they been around since the 40's and under the tagruato name since the 90's.

I think you are forgetting that PM doesn't equal infallible story weaving geniuses. Besides if the clue for finding tidowave.com wasn't going to be put up until nov 24 then why register months in advance. These are people all subject to the same procrastinating flaws we are. Besides the less time the website is up the less likely it will pop up prematurely because of all the references to tagruato being made on it. Imagine if it was up 2 months ago and some one searched "tagruato" -slusho or something. The website would be found way before intended.

So I welcome more arguments and hope against hope that time travelling psychics with lots of time on their hands aren't looking to make an ass out of me.


The thing is, that isn't the only comment that's been "let through". It's all too convenient to me, it just doesn't fit the cool aura of the game. It takes away everything that has been built up to in the past. It eliminates the whole air of mystery, and alternate reality. It's completely anti-game. If this site is IG, and I repeat myself here, this movie is going to suck worse than Armageddon.

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 		Re: Hey this thing still going. neat.
tomathan wrote:
So let me address some stuff, see if I can't knock some of you fence riders off to the dark side.

The "ganu" comment being let through, as caerwiden said was probably let through with the idea that it was parody of what a megalomaniac is thinking. As I stated in my first post, these comments are being moderated unless you see my comments on penises, aliens, and vaginas somewhere in there. If i was gamejacking and willing to put the effort into reading comments looking for ridiculous things then I would certainly be careful enough to not arouse suspicion by letting through some outstanding, yet still with in game mentality, comments.

As for them barely discovering the internet even though they been around since the 80's, give me a break, tagruato's website was put up this year and they been around since the 40's and under the tagruato name since the 90's.

I think you are forgetting that PM doesn't equal infallible story weaving geniuses. Besides if the clue for finding tidowave.com wasn't going to be put up until nov 24 then why register months in advance. These are people all subject to the same procrastinating flaws we are. Besides the less time the website is up the less likely it will pop up prematurely because of all the references to tagruato being made on it. Imagine if it was up 2 months ago and some one searched "tagruato" -slusho or something. The website would be found way before intended.

So I welcome more arguments and hope against hope that time travelling psychics with lots of time on their hands aren't looking to make an ass out of me.


Yea, but Tagruato.jp is controlling the information to prevent you from speculating more than they want you to. I am sure if Tagruato had a forum it would be strictly controlled to make sure that only relevant game information got through. The tidowave site is now so cluttered with crap why would you even spend a minute trying to wade through the garbage to find some clue in all the posts. Again I reference The Effect, to me that is more relevant in the way it looks and functions. TIDO should have at least tried to work like TE.

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 		First, what do you mean by all too convenient. also can you put some quotes that aren't in game. don't mention the names, because people share names, I think the google searches on names prove that. So they might let the comments through on the mentality that, "Hey that name isnt unique to this world and he has interesting things to say about our cause." So names aside, have you seen any comments along the lines of "this movie is gonna rock" or "cloverfield, why that name"

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If this site is IG, and I repeat myself here, this movie is going to suck worse than Armageddon.


Really, you put that much stake in this portion of the ARE, that you would make leaping judgements about the movie. You'd set aside all the other websites work and base the movies possible quality on this one website. Especially with the writers strike going on, although no signs that it has affected this game have been seen.

Also, The effect pretty much consists of users from this forum, all much more well versed on this game and posting ettiquette. I'm pretty sure that they want this game to appeal to as many people as possible, even if it means letting a less than stellar comment go through. See youtube for how most people post, that's the kind of crap you probably aren't seeing.


Also, whose to say the comments are where the clues will be. There is no past precedence for it yet.

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 		I have to concur that the carelessly 'OOG' sort of comments don't bode well for TIDOwave.com to be IG, or don't bode well for the quality of the viral campaign from this point on. You'll notice the MySpace pages lack such cheeseball crap. Why would they do such a good job of moderation there, and skip it on this site?

I'd also like to note another comparison...
If you've been around long enough you are aware of Jamie's Photobucket being hacked. The contents were deleted and replaced with other crap. Without any acknowledgment of any kind from the IG characters, Paramount, Bad Robot, JJ himself, or Photobucket the changes were summarily fixed.
The same is true of the Tagruato.jp hack.
Basically all other truly IG actions have had some reference or consequence someplace else. If that suggests that the Tagruato hack was OOG, what does that say about TIDOwave?

Edit:
tomathan wrote:
Also, whose to say the comments are where the clues will be. There is no past precedence for it yet.

Uh, the MySpace comments between Jamie and Lena led us to Teddy Hanssen.

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 		for Tomathan
In the code
Tom,

Why would the CF PM's put this code in the header of the site? http://gmpg.org/xfn/

What is the use? Some of these people are probably the producers of tidowave.com

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Uh, the MySpace comments between Jamie and Lena led us to Teddy Hanssen.


I meant on that website. not in general. if you remember, I got into an argument for saying something similar to what you just said. And I made in your words an arrogant comment. Anyway the difference is that on myspace it was made quite clear which comments to ignore and which ones not to(the ones made by the myspace 7). Since that distinction has not been made, unless the original posters, i.e. greenbear and such comeback, there is no reason for us to worry about the flood of comments. If those comments are Important the mods probably won't allow copycat posters to show up. In fact, we can test this theory by posting something completely inoffensive and using the name greenbear. If they let it through we can pretty much assume the comments won't be of any use. I'll start off by posting something like "May a tidowave wipe out tagruato" and I'll use the name greenbear.

I'll address your comment in a sec patrick.

UPDATE:Ok

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XHTML_Friends_Network

This website is less relient on flash than others and is designed to accept comments along with the ability for readers to be linked to the website of those who posted. It is standard practice to place referral in the source to the originator of the coding method that lets a website do what it does. Thats why so many websites have the w3.org websites address. I'm not sure what else you could mean by providing that link.

Further Update: I have submitted a comment under the name greenbear in the blog about the hack. It says the following "Everyone here is willing and ready to help. Let us know how." Keep an eye out to see if they approve the comment. If they do you can pretty much not expect to find any clues there. also how do you see the first comments? they seem to disappear as more are added.

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tomathan wrote:
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Uh, the MySpace comments between Jamie and Lena led us to Teddy Hanssen.


I meant on that website. not in general. if you remember, I got into an argument for saying something similar to what you just said. And I made in your words an arrogant comment. Anyway the difference is that on myspace it was made quite clear which comments to ignore and which ones not to(the ones made by the myspace 7). Since that distinction has not been made, unless the original posters, i.e. greenbear and such comeback, there is no reason for us to worry about the flood of comments. If those comments are Important the mods probably won't allow copycat posters to show up. In fact, we can test this theory by posting something completely inoffensive and using the name greenbear. If they let it through we can pretty much assume the comments won't be of any use. I'll start off by posting something like "May a tidowave wipe out tagruato" and I'll use the name greenbear.

I'll address your comment in a sec patrick.

UPDATE:Ok

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XHTML_Friends_Network

This website is less relient on flash than others and is designed to accept comments along with the ability for readers to be linked to the website of those who posted. It is standard practice to place referral in the source to the originator of the coding method that lets a website do what it does. Thats why so many websites have the w3.org websites address. I'm not sure what else you could mean by providing that link.


Well for starters it is not necessary. The PM's do not care about this kind of thing (http://gmpg.org/xfn/). If it is irrelevant to the game and may sidetrack the player it will not go in there.

(Most) not all ARG's are very well thought out. Planned to the teeth. The information discovered or leaked in an ARG is only relevant to course drive the player.

Time should be spent on things like why does the Slusho! site have the following key words in their code "Slusho, water, zoom, happy, power, fish, donkey, frog"? Why not whale, monkey, drink? I could go on, but I am rolling off topic from the tidowave.com de-bunking.

Back to tidowave.com - How would you know what comment was IG and what was from a random poster? A PM would more than likely not let this happen to that harsh of a degree. A player would be more likely to lose interest in the game if one has to wade through juvenile comments to glean some clue.

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 		read my 2nd update. and most programs that are used to design websites immediatley add information like that at the top. just open up a new html page with dreamweaver and you will see that. no extra time is wasted, in fact they probably save time by using programs that do the coding for them rather than doing it all by hand. It would actually waste time to erase something that most people know why its there.

the following is all in the source for tagruato

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">

it is not neccessary but programs like dreamweaver add it on their own.

had to disable html to make that appear

Also CTRL-f can search for you. just look for the names that are important to you. like greenbear or the one asking about indesign. which i also made a post pretending to be.

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Patrick Star wrote:

Back to tidowave.com - How would you know what comment was IG and what was from a random poster? A PM would more than likely not let this happen to that harsh of a degree. A player would be more likely to lose interest in the game if one has to wade through juvenile comments to glean some clue.


UNLESS (I don't think anyone has considered this yet) the PMs aren't going to be putting clues in the comments sections. Think about it - why would a fully-fledged member of Les Geurriers (or whatever they're called) post something vitally important, say, a new clue not relevant to other stories, in the comments section, when they have perfect access to posting actual blogs? Maybe we're all so used to the comment pattern, they're throwing us off the scent to buy them time before the next clue? Besides, none of those comments, as far as I can tell, say anything that would "ADVANCE THE GAME". So, if we get a clue, I surmise it's either gonna be in the form of a blog or a game-advancing, rather blatantly obvious comment (after all, why is there a need to be all cryptic on the anonymous forum of a renowned anti-Tagruato group?). Perhaps you're all thinking the wrong way.

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