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[Everybodykilla.]

 [SPEC] Monster is the whole new york island.

[Patrick Star]

[I'M HUGE!]

Yeah, that video was kinda creepy. o.O Anyways, that's a pretty creative idea. I can tell where he's coming from, but I doubt that that "thing" was a huge tentacle. IMO, that looked nothing like a tentacle.

[airteff]

cool concept not what the monster is gonna be but it is a good idea. That would basically takeaway the entire ARE. The shot of the monster looks nothing like a tentacle

But a rock opera?

[Everybodykilla.]

yea i know on the trailer it looks nothing like a tentacle.
it looked like it had to legs

[xboyonfirex]

ridiculous... this guy completely ignores the entire game.

Slusho!
Tagruato
T.I.D.O. Wave

he completely ignores all this...

Plus he sounds like Mitch Hedberg... As much as I like his stand up, I can't stand his voice.

He makes his theory catchy with his visual bananza... but I don't think that's what J.J. Abrams meant when he was looking at Godzilla going, "hmmmm...."

[Shadowfury]

What in the world was that man tripping on when he came up with that BS?

[TheAirman]

"Cocaine's a helluva drug." - Rick James

[Euchre]

Yeah, this guy seems to miss the publicity shots of Rob and Beth in the Central Park tunnel, in what would appear to be them about to be buried there with the camera.

People really shouldn't hide the lithium pills. You see what it leads to.

[suckaH]

I love how he explains the "It's alive" but completely ignores the "I saw it" and "it's huge." If you're on an island that seems to be rising you're not going to say "i saw it" because you're standing on it. You're not going to say "it's huge" because it's an enormous piece of land, it's kinda given that it's big.
I highly doubt JJ saw godzilla and said "Man they have a kickass nuclear lizard, we need a city with a hair-like tentacle strapped to its tate."

[airteff]

And whats up with the terrible attempts at subliminal messaging flashing stuff like relax and remain calm, like I'm going to get worked up because of a rock opera about Manhattan destroying itself

[JookNy21]

alot of credit to the incredible editing and video creation, but not true at all.

[Clover]

[cloverfreaky]

Yeah, this is a real shot in the dark, but I actually found his arguments really logical and pretty compelling. It's a wild theory for sure, but he backed it up and all of his arguments had real context.

[DougBThree]

Lord.

OK, I for one don't find his six reasons all that compelling.

1) "The wake is the result of a tentacle"
The wake we see in the poster is the result of an artist's interpretation of the after effects of the monster's motion. It may well be that the artist never even saw concept art for the highly secretive monster, and was just told to show that something big had moved through the water towards Manhattan. I don't think we can take the poster as a literal interpretation of the events in the movie. Even if it were a tentacle, why would it necessarily come down "all at once" as he says, instead of entering the water first near its "shoulder" perhaps?

2) "That looks like a tentacle, right?"
Um, no. The famous few frames that we all believe show the monster have certainly been subject to numerous interpretations, but few if any have suggested it was a giant tentacle. Most people see large legs moving below, and/or a shell-like structure. Hell, I can buy the giant cane toad interpretation a lot easier than a big tentacle.

3) "The fireworks suggest there's a force coming up from the ground"
If something at ground level explodes, no matter what it is, it will appear that the force/fire/debris is all headed upward because the ground will impede or block any downward motion. So naturally it looks like the force is all upward. So yes, there is an explosion moving upward into the atmosphere but that's what we would see if anything blew up.

4) The earthquake is a result of the island/monster rising.
I can't argue with the notion that if the island of Manhattan suddenly decided to get up and walk around it might feel like an earthquake to those living on it. Of course, if a skyscraper-sized "traditional" monster came stomping ashore that might shake things up, too. Stomping LSU fans at Tiger Stadium in Baton Rouge once caused a measurable seizmic event on their Geology Department's Richter meters. How much more shaking would something the size of a walking skyscraper cause? Also, does "Monst-hattan" not respirate or have a pulse of some kind? Wouldn't those motions have been detected over the centuries?

5) "It's alive! refers to the island of Manhattan itself"
The full line, subject to immense debate as we all know, is generally accepted to be "I saw it, it's alive, it's huge." OK. He saw what? Manhattan? What's huge? The island they're living on?
If you subscribe to the school that says the point of saying "It's alive" was to draw attention to the fact that something that was either an inanimate object or previously dead has now come to life, then this theory may have appeal. However, given the more "realistic" feel of this movie, and its location, I favor the notion that the line is there letting people know that its not a terrorist attack of some kind, but rather a rampaging critter.

6) "The area is formerly known as Central Park because there is no land left there"
As Euchre deftly pointed out, we have plenty of information that suggests the final scene involves Rob and Beth, with the camera, being buried by rubble under a bridge in Central Park. That doesn't suggest a "force coming upward", but rather, say, a big ol' foot coming downward. Also, the survivability of an electronic video camera in the most newly opened section of the Atlantic Ocean seems unlikely. Furthermore, if the island got up and walked away, what would be the point of mapping out "sites" on the ocean floor that corresponded to area's on the land mass/monster that used to be laying there? Why wouldn't the camera (and several billion dollars worth of buildings) all slide off the island/monster to its side into places no longer directly below where they formerly stood? In my opinion, this is his most absurd "evidence".

Of course, he offers no theories on why Manhattan-zilla quietly laid there through centuries of human occupation, including over a hundred years of massive construction (with a maze of subway tunnels. Ouch! Wouldn't those smart?). He offers no attempt at tying in his theories with the online backstory.

If he turns out to be right, I'll eat my hat. I'll buy the Collector's Edition DVD of his "rock opera", too. I'll fly to Manhattan (assuming it's not away on vacation) and watch his opera live. I'm sure it's great.