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[REVIEW] [SPOILER] My review of the movie
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Euchre
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OK, it all goes into the BS bin when "standing in a field of clover" is mentioned in the lyrics. This is just playing on a misconception from speculation around the trailer. That sort of thing screams of gamejacker mentatlity (tell them what they want to hear, what they thought they knew that was hidden, so they can get caught up in feeling "I was RIGHT!" so they are distracted from other flaws).

Next nail in the coffin:
In a continuous shot we see the newscast then Hawk suggesting going to the roof. They supposedly just ran from the roof in a rain of fiery debris and he's going to suggest going back up there? What brand of implausibly stupid is that? Oh, and on implausibility - they are all calmly watching a television right after fleeing from large objects on fire falling from the sky...
Right.

In both the teaser and trailer, the taxi mentioned is parked, people are ON FOOT on the street, and the taxi is clearly seen NOT crushed.

We've also established that Lily is seen on a helicopter and that she's not the one seen in the helicopter with Rob.

There are so many continuity errors in this versus what we already know it's pathetic. Since this was not tagged [HUMOR] by a brand new poster, it's solidly troll material.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:03 pm
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lapierre520
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Nice try. It was definitely entertaining though! Razz

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m0r1arty
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(ahem)

Nice read, but it's all just stuff from the trailers - apart from the opening scene. No real new info here.

I'm not buying it, but having said that I read a Star Trek : Nemesis script prior to seeing it and it spoiled it when I the movie followed what I'd read.

-m0r

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:35 pm
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DougBThree
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I know things change sometimes in the way a trailer is edited versus the way they are shown in the actual film, but there are some problems with this description as noted above. Also, there was no mention of the "Multiple sightings of case designate Cloverfield..." text, and how that plays any role in the movie. Why is the site formerly known as Central Park?

Also, the description of the monster seems lacking. Merely describing it as having red eyes, machete-like teeth, a humanoid face, and being really big still doesn't tell me much. What does the rest of it look like? Does it have legs, and if so, how many? A tail? A shell? Arms? Claws?

I know people were skeptical of the advance description of the 2nd trailer that turned out to be pretty accurate, but I'm pretty dubious of this, too. Admittedly, some of the scenes sound pretty original (a falling car dropping on a cop), but time will tell.

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rhesusmonkeyboy
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I haven't read this thread, but it needs at least a header
[SPOILER]

I was afraid to ruin the film, just in case this is real, I read the 1st paragraph and got me hence.

Add some kind of uber-warning tag to the Subject, and use "spoiler" code in your post.

Just highlight your "spoilage" and then click the Spoiler button. The syntax is:


Code:
 [spoiler] spoil this [/spoiler]


Smile

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:32 pm
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I must have seen a different movie then, 'cause I'll summarize the movie I saw rather simply...

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
"Rosebud" was a freakin' SLED!


Oh... wait... Never mind.

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thewhistleblower
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Dudes, you have to remember something. Drafts of movies shown in test screenings are work prints. How many of you downloaded the Halloween work print? There were quite a few things cut out, and some major discrepancies with that version of the film. It may or may not have been the final version of the film, but it was received well by the panel. You also have to remember that the news of the Paramount screening came out before the second trailer was released. That would mean that certain loose ends could've been tied up in time for that second trailer hit the theaters.

I'll clear some other things up:

* Slusho and Tagruato aren't there without any purpose. Before the move really kicks off, and theyre at the convention, you see the commercial almost the full way through on a monitor behind them. The duck explodes and Slushbots come out, the same way the Slusho 7 explodes and monsters come out. There's also a clear shot in that commercial of a robot mocking the SoL.

* When the reporter brings up the controversies about Slusho and Tagruato, she mentions the effects noise pollution have on the underwater lifeforms and how several whales were found deformed from such pollution. The whole Slusho/Tagruato/Ganu scene explains where Rob is going, and hints that Tagruato fucking with the underwater lifeforms could've caused this monster to come out of the ocean. It also hints that Tagruato knew and were planning something catastrophic and giving out tainted Slusho. It's not a meaningless sequence.

* The monster is a humanoid. It walks sort of hunched over, like a hunchback whale and has large feet that look like oversized battering rams. It has three claws on each hand. When you see the claws and compare them to the wreckage on the SoL's face, you can see how it gripped it in those claws. Like I said, not a lot of the monster was seen in the movie (more or less implied during most of it) but it made its presence known. Sort of like the smoke monster in LOST. I'm sorry if this description might be vague, that's all I can remember of it.

* Work prints aren't the final versions of the movie, meaning that a lot of scenes aren't in sequence. I might have mixed up a few names in my review. Keep in mind a lot of the movie is hard to see because of the camera style.

* In the trailer, Lil is seen but in the movie Beth is seen. There's no other way I can explain it.

* After they see something fly by the window, they go to the roof. They head back into the apartment after things start DIRECTLY hitting the roof. They don't stand around calmly watching NY1. Everyone's frantic, Jamie is calling Teddy and no one seems to know what to do. Someone asks if they should go back outside but everyone says they're crazy to wanna go back out there so they stay there until they're evacuated.

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djspankypants
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i know this seems petty, and the trailer could be censored but, the review mentions the taxi being destroyed with jamie in it. Well the SOL does not crush the taxi in this movie. heres a pic.
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InAFieldofClover
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The Taxi kill, I guess, could have been censored. Or changed. The scene in the teaser was different from the trailer (different head at least). Maybe Bad Robot didn't want to show Jamie getting killed in either trailer because of how big a role she plays in the ARG? I don't know.

That's sort of inconsequential though. His review has tons of holes in it going off of what we know. If he saw a work print, yeah, it is possible that things were changed. Real or not, I thought it was an entertaining read. If he had tagged this 'fan fiction'--assuming he's lying--I think he would've gotten some pretty good feedback.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:00 pm
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Euchre
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Damage control = BS

thewhistleblower wrote:
* Slusho and Tagruato aren't there without any purpose. Before the move really kicks off, and theyre at the convention, you see the commercial almost the full way through on a monitor behind them. The duck explodes and Slushbots come out, the same way the Slusho 7 explodes and monsters come out. There's also a clear shot in that commercial of a robot mocking the SoL.

That makes absolutely no sense if you are trying to market a product to Americans. Japanese people don't have this huge 'hate American' thing going either, so it doesn't fit there either.
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* When the reporter brings up the controversies about Slusho and Tagruato, she mentions the effects noise pollution have on the underwater lifeforms and how several whales were found deformed from such pollution.

Noise pollution is sound, not a biological mutagen. It can't cause mutations, it causes auditory interference so they whales can't hear correctly. This idea is so lame as to be inexcusable, no respectable studio, scientist, or news outlet would spew such crap.
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I'm sorry if this description might be vague, that's all I can remember of it.

How convenient.
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* Work prints aren't the final versions of the movie, meaning that a lot of scenes aren't in sequence. I might have mixed up a few names in my review. Keep in mind a lot of the movie is hard to see because of the camera style.

* In the trailer, Lil is seen but in the movie Beth is seen. There's no other way I can explain it.

So first you aren't sure you named the right character, then you are. Make up your mind.
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* After they see something fly by the window, they go to the roof. They head back into the apartment after things start DIRECTLY hitting the roof. They don't stand around calmly watching NY1. Everyone's frantic, Jamie is calling Teddy and no one seems to know what to do. Someone asks if they should go back outside but everyone says they're crazy to wanna go back out there so they stay there until they're evacuated.

OK, so when there's not been an explosion seen there is somehow debris flying past. They figure it's a good idea to go see what's flying by, and expose themselves to that? Yeah, right. They are then going to actually change their mind about it being safe to go see what these flying objects are after they get on the roof? Uh-uh. They stay in the apartment until evacuated, but you earlier said they fled into the street - now you are contradicting your own account.
You can't even keep your own BS straight.

The teaser was made WAY before this supposed 'Haloween work print' and that was being shown on July 7th. No studio with any brains at all would so wildly contradict itself in a promotion like that, and Paramount isn't some little circus of idiots. The trailer's bits as compared to the teaser don't vary by as much as your accounts in continuity, and where they do vary is far more acceptable to the viewer than what you propose. This absolutely howls 'gamejack' at this point.
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Soci
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Re: Damage control = BS

Euchre wrote:

OK, so when there's not been an explosion seen there is somehow debris flying past. They figure it's a good idea to go see what's flying by, and expose themselves to that?
In his defense, how many horror films are there when someone hears a noise in the basement, goes to see what it is, and off with their head???

Anyway: OP you may have done better by using your real sn...

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whois
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shut the fuck up Euchre.

damn, we tire of you.

We got that you don't think its legit the first time. Don't come back tryin to be the God of debunking. Leave it be. Read, comment, move on.

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Soci
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whois wrote:
shut the fuck up Euchre.

damn, we tire of you.

We got that you don't think its legit the first time. Don't come back tryin to be the God of debunking. Leave it be. Read, comment, move on.
Brownie

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Arkeband
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No... I think Euchre has hit the nail on the head this time. First of all, WHO goes to a panel like this and manages to write down every piece of dialogue?

Why does he not describe the monster beyond anything we've already seen? "Teeth like machetes" is what clued me in, what the hell does that mean, and is that what people think when they see sharp things? "My dog has teeth like nail clippers!!!"

Besides, exploding because of Slusho is lame, and I refuse to believe that will have any part in this movie.

Don't hate on Euchre, I mean, sometimes I disagree with his skepticism, but he's right this time. Razz

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WTF whois? uF is the internet place for opinion and skepticism. That is how things are worked out. Don't be a joik!

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