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faeryqueen21
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 		Time, Circle, and Chat are capitalized.
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WolfHawk
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 		I got the same email as the rest of you. However, I also just received this one:

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Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 14:52:56 -0600
From: "Canan Death" <canandeath> Add to Address Book Add
Subject: Re: Similarities

There is little meaning in the sentences I say, but more in the words I choose.

you have what you need to move on.

Let's move on together.

Talk to you soon

Canan NC

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Lunsford
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 		what information have we overlooked? I know that Faery pointed out the capitilized letters but I did a search and came up with nothing. I went and looked up Darren's "hunch" for Hansel and gretel but as I'm reading the story I'm thinking that it is some sort of metaphor.....

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Lunsford
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 		sorry guys double post but I did find this.. just some info..


http://www.webmonkey.com/webmonkey/05/52/index0a.html



maybe these are our "breadcrumbs"

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WolfHawk
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 		Yeah, I just looked for T(ime) C(ircle) C(hat) and got a ton of hits; mostly community Colleges in places like Tucson, Tulsa, Tacoma, etc.

The original story of Hansel and Gretel is VERY dark; it isn't the cleaned up Disney-esque version. But still the only thing they overlooked was the fact that the house must have an inhabitant. They just dug in and started eating without knocking on the door or anything.
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faeryqueen21
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 		Well we did talk about finding a safe place to talk again so that could be what Chat means.
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WolfHawk
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 		That's what I was thinking, too, which is why I also looked for Time Circle Chat but the hits I got didn't seem to be relative.
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Lunsford
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 		what site or forum has been named in this thread? maybe the "breadcrumbs" are there Dunno

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WolfHawk
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 		The forum we had was "infilterated." It's several pages back in the thread. There was a Myspace page for Nathan Cade which led us to the forum.
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Lunsford
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 		when I went to the website above that I posted, it said that webpages can give you "breadcrumbs"... I am not very good at any kind of web page deciphering but if there is anyone maybe that is, they could try checking it out? ? He said that we already basically have the " next step"... we just have to go back and find it..

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jjocke
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 		Other Clues from Canan
Perhaps we need to work on the clues already sent to us:

There was the "THUS UP FLOW RELIEF.doc" that was sent to Macavity
[url] http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=22533&start=525 [/url] Which had all the OOOoooOO's

And before that there was the message to Leggus with the "clock hands" and document processingwords.doc [url] http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=22533&start=480 [/url]

I am going to play around with those, but I am pretty rotten at codes. I know we "Solved" the font type message, but perhaps there is more to the message.

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highwind767
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 		Hello. I'm fairly new-ish to ARG's so I'm going to try and ease myself into this one. Or something like that Very Happy
Anyway, before I send an email off to SS, I just wanted to say something.
In Hansel and Gretel the breadcrumbs were going to be used to find a way back home, which could be seen as going full "Circle" and returning to the place where they began. In the same sense, maybe there's another clue on a past website?

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lordscrubb
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 		Guys I just recieved an email from Canan in reply to mine I went very harsh on him trying to get more info I also insinuated that Canan was a troll

I sent him this

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Dear Canan

I am sending this email to enquire as to who the hell are you??

and why the hell should I trust you??

I only ask as you think you can send an email and then all is well with the world. I am wondering if I should trust you as I have been burnt once before and as they say once bitten twice shy.So far you have given no proof as to your alliegance only words I have tried to use your advice in the email but at this stage nothing has worked and this is after we recieved the answer from he who shall remain nameless.
And how do you know who I am (and my other friends) and who metatron is I would suggest you explain this before we go any further
Only after I recieve proof of who you are and what you plan to do will I then trust you

And if you cant do this then I will label you a false prophet(or troll whichever label you prefer) and I will spread the word to my friends to ignore you completley

So basically in closing I ask you to put up or shutup (harsh I know but these are difficult times)

Your truly

Lordscrubba


And he replied with the following

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I see the pressure has affected many of you. A contest with a demon can do that to you. I am your friend and the one who got all of you into this, Nathan. I am sorry for the misleading name and originally the broken text, but I had my reasons. At this time none of my "employers" or "co-workers" know that I am accessing the internet to communicate with all of you and I hear that there are some of our enemies still haunting my old email address. I assume they would be checking on all manner of Nathan Cade related email addresses so I decided to change my name to keep the line secure. Of course I am much harder to track now that I access the internet without a computer Wink I am not sure how I can prove to you who I am or what my intentions are so I suppose it is up to you to believe in what you want to. I will be here fighting to save humanity either way. As for my plans... I am still deciding the best course of action to prevent the oncoming apocalypse. I have to be careful here, we only have one shot. I hope that I can still count on you and all of your friend's help when the time comes.

NC

So Canan is Nathan now we are back to square one I am thinking we should trust him but I thought I would throw it open for everyones opinion before I reply
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LeggusKultain
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 		We've known Canan was Nathan since the first email he sent to me Canan Death anagrams into Nathan Cade.

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nilradical
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 		Interesting! Regarding Nate's most recent clue-- the clock hands sound like a good idea to me, especially since Nate said they would have meaning in the future.

As for whether to trust Nate's new email, yeah, I'd say he does seem to be who he says he is. And someone mentioned wondering whether we ought to support Nate's plan vs. Bobby's... I dunno, it seems to me that they're both working for the same goals, so maybe we should support both for now until we're forced to make a choice? As long as the two plans aren't directly countering each other, I like having more options rather than less when it comes to stopping Armageddon/saving the world. Smile

Last but not least, I've sent a couple of demon-research emails to Bobby, and we had an interesting exchange... I sent him:

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I have a few more bits and pieces of research for you. You asked about any human rituals relating to Andras-- there are two books that come to mind: The Goetia/Lesser Key of Solomon, a 17th century grimoire (and English adaptation by Mathers and Crowley), which details the times, seals, rites, and incantations needed to Evoke and bind 72 different demons, one of which is Andras. There's a link to some of this here: http://altreligion.about.com/library/grimoires/bl_goetia.htm, and I've requested a copy which is on it's way to my library. I've attached the seal of Andras given in the book, and a copy of the circle used for the ritual.

The second book is Johann Weyer's 1577 De Praestigiis Daemonum et Incantationibus ac Venificiis, which contains the Pseudomonarchia Daemonum, another guide to calling and binding several different demons, including Andras. The Lesser Key of Solomon is believed to be based on this work. You can find the Pseudomonarchia Daemonum with English translation here: http://www.esotericarchives.com/solomon/weyer.htm#par70, though I've requested a copy of this book as well, so I can check it against the original if needed.

I've got some more info if you'd like it, but I'm out of town today, so most of it will likely have to wait. Hope this helps!
-Amitiel


And he replied:
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Amazing! I wasn't aware that humans could bind such powerful demons... We can use this I think. Do you know the rules to a binding?


So, I've sent him back a response with what I know, and a few questions of my own, but I just thought I'd mention it in case any of this ends up popping up elsewhere...

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