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[UPDATE] Jamie and Teddy Video #5
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Melampus
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So, I know several people think that drinking Slusho or ingesting seabed nectar somehow causes people to expand and burst, and/or give 'birth' to lil' beasties, and that's why Teddy says "don't eat this." But, that can't be right, at least I don't see how it could. Here's my reasoning:

First, according to the information we've received so far, lots and lots of people and animals have eaten seabed nectar, in food (Vernon MacDooble and all the other patrons of that restaurant, and whoever is eating the stuff the smiling chef made on the 1-18-08.com pic, to name a few), and in Slusho (many, many, many people). Slusho Iced the competition, remember? So, there's no way that Slusho causes people to burst - if it did, most of the Japanese population would have already burst. Also, Tagruato has been aggressively experimenting with the stuff, so, they know full-well what the effects are - at least, short-term effects, enough to make it impossible for, say, Lena to drink Slusho at Rob's party and burst a few hours later.

Second, we're all pretty certain there won't be any explanations given in the movie about where the monster came from, and why it attacked New York, etc., b/c of the Blair Witch style, yadda, yadda, yadda. That will work, but only, I think, if it sticks to just being a movie about a big monster attacking New York, and nothing more. That would work because everyone in the audience knows the drill - it's a monster movie, fine, np., no explanations needed, enjoy the carnage! BUT, if they also have people bursting open because of some Slurpee drink, then the audience is going to be very confused - somewhere in the movie, the connection between the monster and the slurpee-bursters will have to be explained, and that would ruin the Blair Witch style, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Therefore, Slusho! is a side show. It may have some relation to the monster (e.g., the harvesting of the stuff - extremophiles? - they use to make Slusho! disrupted food supplies and eventually angered Grumpypants, or the same basic technology used to make Slusho's secret ingredient is being used by Tagruato to engineer this monster), but Slusho! can't be a 'carrier' for the monster. I just don't see how they could pull that off.

Finally, "don't eat this" is probably there for the obvious reason that the stuff in the bag is "Primary Evidence" and it probably looks like something edible, or more than that, something temptingly edible, e.g., chocolate.

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JFTeran
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Patrick Star wrote:
FREEZE after exposed to light. Deep sea is very dark and primarily cold unless you are in the Mariana trench.

Do we have any definitive proof tidowave.com is IG? It does not function like an IG site.


I posted this on the TidoWave thread so i wanna know what u think patrickstar... would this make it IG
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i think this is more than a coincidence (sp?)... tidowave is IG by way of Randy posting these blogs in some cases and being mentioned in J&T video 5... i love how all these connections are coming together...


Randy posts blogs on TidoWave
Randy is mentioned on J&T
Tidowave = IG?

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Caerwiden
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Patrick Star wrote:
FREEZE after exposed to light. Deep sea is very dark and primarily cold unless you are in the Mariana trench.

Do we have any definitive proof tidowave.com is IG? It does not function like an IG site.


Yes, the name Randy.
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Caerwiden
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Melampus wrote:
So, I know several people think that drinking Slusho or ingesting seabed nectar somehow causes people to expand and burst, and/or give 'birth' to lil' beasties, and that's why Teddy says "don't eat this." But, that can't be right, at least I don't see how it could. Here's my reasoning:

First, according to the information we've received so far, lots and lots of people and animals have eaten seabed nectar, in food (Vernon MacDooble and all the other patrons of that restaurant, and whoever is eating the stuff the smiling chef made on the 1-18-08.com pic, to name a few), and in Slusho (many, many, many people). Slusho Iced the competition, remember? So, there's no way that Slusho causes people to burst - if it did, most of the Japanese population would have already burst. Also, Tagruato has also been aggressively experimenting with the stuff, so, they know full-well what the effects are - at least, short-term effects, enough to make it impossible for, say, Lena to drink Slusho at Rob's party and burst a few hours later.

Second, we're all pretty certain there won't be any explanations given in the movie about where the monster came from, and why it attacked New York, etc., b/c of the Blair Witch style, yadda, yadda, yadda. That will work, but only, I think, if it sticks to just being a movie about a big monster attacking New York, and nothing more. That would work because everyone in the audience knows the drill - it's a monster movie, fine, np., no explanations needed, enjoy the carnage! BUT, if they also have people bursting open because of some Slurpee drink, then the audience is going to be very confused - somewhere in the movie, the connection between the monster and the slurpee-bursters will have to be explained, and that would ruin the Blair Witch style, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Therefore, Slusho! is a side show. It may have some relation to the monster (e.g., the harvesting of the stuff - extremophiles? - they use to make Slusho! disrupted food supplies and eventually angered Grumpypants, or the same basic technology used to make Slusho's secret ingredient is being used by Tagruato to engineer this monster), but Slusho! can't be a 'carrier' for the monster. I just don't see how they could pull that off.

Finally, "don't eat this" is probably there for the obvious reason that the stuff in the bag is "Primary Evidence" and it probably looks like something edible, or more than that, something temptingly edible, e.g., chocolate.


Yeah, my opinion is that the monster has some method of poisoning people and that its poison is so effective that it causes people to burst.
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So what step do we take with this new information? Contact Randy to get a hold of Jamie? Contact Jamie to verify to her that her BF is in trouble,get a hold of randy etc?

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JFTeran wrote:
Patrick Star wrote:
FREEZE after exposed to light. Deep sea is very dark and primarily cold unless you are in the Mariana trench.

Do we have any definitive proof tidowave.com is IG? It does not function like an IG site.


I posted this on the TidoWave thread so i wanna know what u think patrickstar... would this make it IG
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i think this is more than a coincidence (sp?)... tidowave is IG by way of Randy posting these blogs in some cases and being mentioned in J&T video 5... i love how all these connections are coming together...


Randy posts blogs on TidoWave
Randy is mentioned on J&T
Tidowave = IG?


Yea, I can buy into that. But wouldn't Randy have contacted Jamie eons ago about Teddy if they were involved. He says Randy on the tape like she knows who he is. Randy has obviously been the first line of communication or at least he should be. Why no mention of the TAG memo on TIDO? I mean really, something that big to Lascano? but that debate is in another thread.

I am just glad we got something going here.

BTW, if TAG is willing to kill one of their BIO's wouldn't they have dispatched Teddy by now? Then TH would not be able to contact Lascano or otherwise.

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TBILL wrote:
So what step do we take with this new information? Contact Randy to get a hold of Jamie? Contact Jamie to verify to her that her BF is in trouble,get a hold of randy etc?


I already posted on TIDOWave.com, we'll see soon if that's what we're meant to do.
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could it be that the appartment you see in these videos where jamie records her little lovemails for teddy is the same appartment they party in during the trailer and the cam is the cam that they shoot the film with? you do get evidence about jamie beeing a party girl and dragging home women for afterparties.

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First, according to the information we've received so far, lots and lots of people and animals have eaten seabed nectar, in food (Vernon MacDooble and all the other patrons of that restaurant, and whoever is eating the stuff the smiling chef made on the 1-18-08.com pic, to name a few), and in Slusho (many, many, many people). Slusho Iced the competition, remember? So, there's no way that Slusho causes people to burst - if it did, most of the Japanese population would have already burst. Also, Tagruato has also been aggressively experimenting with the stuff, so, they know full-well what the effects are - at least, short-term effects, enough to make it impossible for, say, Lena to drink Slusho at Rob's party and burst a few hours later.


I posted a thing a couple of pages back. Possibly a case of tl:dr, but it's possible that the seabed nectar is only safe to consume if it's properly refined. And/or if it's properly prepared and cared for. In its original state, it could have toxins, mutagens -- pretty much anythingens. Same goes for nectar that's gone "bad" considering that we know it has a pretty unusual source, but don't actually know what it consists of.

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Melampus wrote:


Finally, "don't eat this" is probably there for the obvious reason that the stuff in the bag is "Primary Evidence" and it probably looks like something edible, or more than that, something temptingly edible, e.g., chocolate.



Yep, eating it would "destroy" the evidence. That's probably why he stated not to eat it. Freezing it ASAP? If it is something edible, after 2 months in a box (shelf life is over) a little freezing would be recommended to avoid decaying. Probably just to respect the "best before" date on the wrapping.

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Hmm, just thinking out loud here, but perhaps whatever it is needs to be frozen to be of interest to whoever Teddy thinks it needs to be shown to.

Perhaps when it's warm it's inert, but when frozen it has special properties?
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ok i just have to say to any nay-sayers about tidowave being ig. the whois search shows that tidowave.com was registered i think that it was 11 days before tag got hacked, and being that the acronyms tidoo and tidow were not seen until the hack happened. not to mention the whole randy situation.

also one other note before i go to bed ( i work graveyards so i will be back on here later tonight.) I think that our next big adventure will be either a j&t vid or just a randomly discovered web site similar to j&t that will be R&J a video site with video contact from randy to jamie. maybe randy is completely paranoid about bugs on his phone or something so he will call jamie and just tell her the website. something like that, but i really think that there is the potential for randy to take over jamie's spot in the arg.

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Has anyone youtubed the J&T video yet?

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Hmm I think whoever mentioned light is onto something!

What if seabed nectar, if exposed to light and room temperature at the same time, develops some nasty properties?

Thus, as long as the sample was in the dark box: no problem. Chuck it in a freezer: no problem. Leave it around in room temperatur, exposed to light: not safe for human consuption in a short while!

In the frozen slusho, its safe because its injested before it gets warm. (Drinking a melted ice-slush left unattended for a few days would probably be nasty, but who would do that?)

Now, this might also tie in with whales. As whales are airbreathers, they are among the few species who both trive at deep sea levels as well as at the surface. Spill some seabed-nectar on local whales, and you might have a nasty problem!

Someone asked how an independent lab would get hold of sea bed nectar? I would imagine they just bought a lot of slushos! Very Happy

And incidentally, we dont know whether Teddy knows everything about slusho/sea-bed nectar. He might just have stubled unto some strange stuff Tagruato keeps secret, and pollutes the local fauna with, he might have sent it out for further analasys

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HerOdyssey wrote:
Has anyone youtubed the J&T video yet?
yep, by cloverfieldclues.com link

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