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[UPDATE] Jamie and Teddy Video #5
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phantomjester
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QooL wrote:
I think the very fact that Jaime wrote "...use this photo to send a message of my hotness far and wide!!!..." on the photo located on the 1-18-08 website denotes that she isn't getting back to Teddy by 1-18-08, nor is she going to deal with his capture in a mature manner.


I dont think that 1-18-08.com has any real purpose other than to give us clues about what in ig. Because you would than have to say that since they obviously are not using an old fashioned polaroid camera, that since she wrote that on there, and since the photo is dated 1-18-08 just after midnight, that jamie and rob both live through the movie, probably hud too since he is in the pic and there is no sad message about him on the back.

that is my thought on it, after all 1-18-08.com gave us the name jamie lascano, it told us about seabed's nectar, it gave us our first and (I think) only clip of the monster's roar with no other background noises going on. so i think that 1-18-08.com, while a good reference for things can't be taken too literally

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You know, as far as that fan is concerned, I'd say that if it's a clue to anything, then it's a clue to the fact that whatever effect on the weather grumpypants is having, which I assume is the reason it's so hot the night he attacks, it's already happening even before any of this Jamie eating/thawing/hatching/exploding/slushoing stuff occurs.

However, now that I've written this, I can't really think of a possible reason a living organism the size of a skyscraper could have such a profound effect on the weather of an area for such a long time without anyone noticing it.

Still, you have to admit. That news reporter definitely wasn't like "Break out the shades! The monster that is currently decapitating a national landmark has caused the temperature to jump up yet again!" Something's up with the weather.

This reply is too long for what it is. I'll stop now.
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actually, the fan may not be there to show its hot from grumpypants.... i live down here in Tennessee, granted its south a ways from NY, but it still averages about 30-40s in december,...

yesterday it got to 72F and i had to turn on my own fan...

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Shanghai isn't exactly New York, but 30 degree temperature swings are kind of the norm around here. In Boston last year, we had an unseasonably warm January and I think it may have hit the 70's here too. And we definitely had an all-time high for a day in late fall/early winter. I know I had my fan out for most of the winter. I don't think this is as much of a current trend as it is a reality of weather: when you live in the Northeast, weird stuff happens. There's a name for this phenomenon, but I can't recall what it is. For now, I'll just call it a seasonal Nor'Easter. I wouldn't focus too much on it until we get something more concrete. Like air conditioning.
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It's global warming, you guys.

I am super cereal about this. Laughing

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This has been one of the hottest winters in california in quite some time. Mid-80s every day.

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suckaH wrote:
This has been one of the hottest winters in california in quite some time. Mid-80s every day.


Not sure what part of California you are in, but we are getting sub-freezing temps nightly in the desert.

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suckaH wrote:
This has been one of the hottest winters in california in quite some time. Mid-80s every day.


You're absolutely right, suckaH. I have lived in Socal for a long time, and I don't remember it ever being this hot. I mean, COME ON! It's freakin' DECEMBER!!! Cursing

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It's really hot in Georgia too. 70s in December...

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Wow...JJ and crew can detect a hot winter? These guys are geniuses.

But seriously, I always thought the temperature was story related. If it's 63 degrees in January, then in December it's probably pretty warm too. My mind is still boggled by the message to keep the thing frozen, yet she's been holding onto the gift for a long time. Poor judgement all around. Anyone else thinks TPTB just didn't know what to do? Pretty lame big reveal if you ask me. All this has lead to is more questions and no answers.

But then again, this isn't a game as much it is a "find the webite" easter egg hunt.

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I really don't think the temperature in NY has anything to do with the fan. If that was the case, why is Vid 5 the only vid where the fan is on? And also, think about the time of day it is...no, we can't see out the window, but the room is dark the lamp is on, so I'm sure taht's a clear indication that it's eventing/night time. And even with global warming, I doubt if it gets hot enough in a NY December night to have a fan on.

Yeah, I'm with the "Jamie's hottness" idea from the back of the picture, not the global warming theory.

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This post was assembled over the last few days and covering the odd remark here and there, so it kinda rambles a bit... I tried removing stuff that got answered but I don't think I got everything:


Kitsuhime wrote:
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Food for thought:

If Jaime did indeed lose her old mobile phone, as mentioned in her previous vid, there is no way Randy will be able to contact her.



But the vid where Jamie loses her phone is the vid before the strip tease. The one where she' s in bed with a random chick. It's implied that she's spoken to Teddy between video three and four- more time went between the posts than just two days, right?

And even if she hadn't spoken to him, she'd been trying to call him. The records would exits. So even if the number changed, Teddy would have had it presumably to pass on to Randy.

Nice theory, though.

Maybe her god-awful strip tease made him dump her. Laughing


Additionally, presumably Teddy gave Randy her apartment number to improve the odds of him getting into contact with her.

keeno_82uk wrote:
typical women. I'd have at least dated someone who had a bit of an imagination and didn't go jumping to conclusions about my lloyalty


Well, in fairness how would you react to such an odd story... plus she's undoubtedly pissed off at the anticlimax of the gift, a baseball cap, a weird packet of something and a tape from her boyfried spinning what sounds like a yarn about why there'll be no more contact between them.

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I think the slusho cap was a bad idea to put in the box. It didn't really emphasize the seriousnes of the situation.


Indeed, to have waited so long to find out what the gift is and to find out that it seems to be a hat would immediately put her into a foul mood, making her less inclined then to believe his story as she feels that through the 'crappy gift' and lack of contact that he just doesn't care that much about her..

tether wrote:
there seems to be a lot of symbolism in this new video...the two bears are separated form one another, the Teddy Hansen (sp?) bear seems to be dead, i don't think we'll ever hear from him again. also, was that picture on her wall in any of the previous videos? too bad she doesn't let the audio play out or we could learn more...i guess now we have to wait for a new clue form this Randy (randi) person


Yeah, the framed 'whatever' has been a regular piece of the set used for her bedroom. Interesting, although surely unimportant to the plot is the sudden absence of one of her two bedside lamps.

shivs wrote:
I don't even know what to believe anymore. I used to think that Tagruato was just some company that had no idea what they were messing with and accidentally awoke our monster. But that whole they found something/ they are making something suggests they know what they are messing with to some extent.


Does it? That was a frantic comment made by someone who didn't know everything yet and presumably wanted to get the message and evidence out in short order. It doesn't mean yet that Tagruato actually made the monster and is doing it all deliberately. The best monster stories have the creature come about as an accident. Even if they were exploiting it, it doesn't mean they know all about it.

carlosos wrote:
Why on earth does she need a fan in plain NY December?


Broken air conditioning? Broken heater? Not really filmed in December? Wink Filmed under hot studio lights? Razz

UnseenPresence wrote:
Overall, this was both -very- satisfying, very expected AND opened a few new steps in the story.


Agreed... after so much contemplation and little that revealed anything, this was a major step forward... pretty much confirmation of Teddy's role, absolute proof for those still doubting that Jamie and Teddy's videos were connected and almost a full circle with returning to Slusho via the baseball cap.

DougBThree, that certainly seems to be all of it. You wouldn't think they'd make such an obvious mistake of having this huge issue with freezing it, and then suddenly writing themselves into a corner by having such a long delay. The 'evidence' appears to be something wrapped in foil (it looked like cardboard to begin with, but the 'carboard' seemed shiny just before she threw it away) and kept in a plastic bag which rules out one of those sort of refrigeration packets (in film universe only or otherwise). Whilst it could be an airtight bag, that wouldn't likely stop the transference of heat so it's probably only there to protect the 'evidence' and prevent it from making a mess if its a liquid.

The only... 'possible' reason nothing happened is that as has been mentioned by Patrick and a few others is that it's possibly the mixture of heat and light that could lead to something... to use the Titanic as an example, if I recall correctly the reason there's still so much of the wreck left is because of the absence of light and oxygen on the Atlantic seabed, and as we've seen creatures have evolved to exist in that lightless environment, some of which develop their own means of illumination to attract their prey.

I'm also wary of saying yet whether Marlena eats the contents of the packet, if the timeline between initial 'infection' and 'cultivation' is only a matter of hours than that rules out a gestation period of around 40 days if Marlena were to eat it not long after Jamie got it. If Randy and Jamie do get in contact it seems unlikely she'd have it hanging around in her fridge for over a month and not give it to him... and as it seems a bit implied that there's more than one person suffering from the infection that may or may not kill Marlena it seems unlikely that several people got infected a month before Rob and Beth's going away shindig on January 18th.

Of course, there's also the angle that the 'Don't eat this' warning was simply added because he didn't want to have gone to all that effort only to have the evidence he'd smuggled out get eaten by accident and not because it's actually dangerous... hopefully we'll know more soon.


And with that said, the bursting people may not be cause by them getting filled with little monsters but simply as a chemical reaction... I cite the famous 'exploding bird' as an example of this, where if you feed a pigeon paracetamol, it can't expell the gasses... leading to it exploding. The unrefrigerated nectar, if that's what it is may not be safe for human consumption because of it's chemical makeup... frozen, it's of no problem and is digested naturally before any adverse effect, but unrefrigerated it creates chemicals with the air that changes it.

Wow, and I used to complain about random, wild speculation.

ilovepancakes wrote:
could it be that the appartment you see in these videos where jamie records her little lovemails for teddy is the same appartment they party in during the trailer and the cam is the cam that they shoot the film with? you do get evidence about jamie beeing a party girl and dragging home women for afterparties.


It's definitely not the same camera, given the awful quality of the videos she's uploaded.

tiny420 wrote:
But wouldn't he have to have some kinda access to actually snoop around. Like working for them prehaps?


Not neccesarily, he can still work for a company and be captured if they released he was doing stuff that threatened any potentially shady dealings.
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It's the dead of winter here in IL, and I have a fan on right now. At night, the ambient noise helps me sleep. During the day it helps with air circulation in my apartment. Perhaps this is the same reason Jamie has a fan on. Of course, it's probably due to the observed temp in the trailer, NYC is under some kind of heat wave when the movie takes place, this much is clear. Unclear whether this has anything to do with the monster, or Tagruato.

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The fan could be on, because in a lot of apartment complexes, no matter what the temperature is outside, the heat comes on after October 15th or so, and may be hard to regulate, thus making it stifling. And, if you live on an upper floor, since heat rises, it can be really hot in your apartment, thus using a fan (since they probably have turned off the a/c, unless there are window units).

I'm inclined to agree with the sentiment that Teddy secured the DSN as evidence, perhaps to be taken to a lab and studied, so the warning not to eat would be, as was stated, to preserve the evidence until it can get to its final destination.

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the evidence

the 'evidence' is in my eyes:

a product from tagruato, maybe a chocolate bar or new kind of ice cream, and keep frozen means keep frozen for maximum taste.

but something is wrong with it, maybe something mutated or tagruato puts bad stuff in it. so teddy wrote on it "primary evidence", "do not eat!".

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