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[SPEC] Will there be any toys or models for the monster?
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Just remember, everyone is entitled to an opinion. Just don't try and force it on someone else. This forum is here for people to work together and bounce ideas and theories off of one another. I notice that alot of the first players, the guys and girls that were here FROM THE START, aren't around anymore. Reason being, this has devolved from being an interactive experience to being a free-for-all. Big blame goes to the studio and PMs for letting things hang in the air for so long. Then they flood the boards with clues and info. The pacing so far has been terrible.

That doesn't mean this can't still be cool, but without all of the bs and personal comments. Lots of smart people here, and still a pretty long way to go, in terms of the ARG. Just concentrate on what's ahead, and be good to each other.

And if they don't make a toy, that's cool. But they better at least hit us with some Slusho! machines, or at the very least, a Jamie Lascano Barbie, complete with cheesy stripper outfit, and a UTI test kit.

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brettoniasam wrote:
Yeah, the PG-13 rating is DEFINITELY a sellout, so I WOULDN'T be surprised to see Grumpypants Supaa-Kung-Fu Action!!! figures (Severed SOL(tm) Head(tm) Sold Separately) appear to complete the sellout.

SHOULD this movie have action figures or other merchandising...? HELL, no. This movie wasn't designed as a franchise; it was designed as an experiment in non-traditional marketing. So action figures and playsets and coffee mugs and bedsheets and lunchboxes (i.e., traditional marketing) would be an essay in hypocrisy on JJ's part.

I hope to god JJ doesn't sell out, but it looks like he is.


Hahah, sellout, the favourite word of people who don't know what they're talking about.

You think he ever intended to not make money from this film? He's a movie maker, he sold his soul the minute he signed a contract. If you don't like that, don't give him your money.

He got the idea for the film when he was looking at Godzilla action figures for crying out loud.
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You also have to remember, movies are being rated alot differently than they used to. According to cloverfieldmovie.com and the PG-13 rating thing (I dont know a better term to use here...), this film will feature violence, terror, and disturbing images. Thats about all I can ask for. Most movies that catch an R now days or either ridiculously gorey, have excessively foul language, and deal with sex or drugs or nudity, and of course as most movies now have, a fine combination of both. I bet after we all see the movie (at least I hope), that we would agree if it was released 10 years ago, it probably would have fetched an R rating.

thats just my $.02.
The rating really doesnt change my excitement level for this film...I'm still pumped.

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I do think this movie deserves to do well because of all the viral marketing that has been behind it, which keep in mind is free and quite enjoyable. I know that even if this movie is a waste of my $7, I'll consider it a big "thank you" for all the months that have followed after July.


Here here! Though I also think I'll pay more than seven... Smile

I don't know about 'toy.' See, toy implies like a Toys-R-US or a KB Toys little kiddie marketing franchise. I don't really see that happening- but something geared towards adults I can definitely see. Like those American McGee figurines, or something. Those aren't meant for kids AT ALL, but they're cool if you're into that sort of thing. They sell them at video game stores or Suncoast, rather than a store aimed toward children and parents of children. That seems not only viable, but like something I'd want to see. I think that a lot of the fans would like that too, if they were well constructed, limited edition, all that good stuff.

I'm optimistic about Cloverfield, but I'm trying not to make too many preconceptions. If it's bad, all those 'this sucks, you suck, Abrams suck' people can say "I told you so." But let me have my half full glass for now.

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There are many people in this forum (including me) who would give an arm and a leg to get their hands on anything labeled "Cloverfield". I wouldn't be surprised if J.J. makes enough money on merchandise alone to pay for the entire cost of the film.

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Will there be action figures?

I would say: Yeah, most probably by the same company that makes the LOST action figures, McFarlane Toys. Which bodes for quality!

Now I think we will only get action figures of the principal "heroes". Not the monster itself, (due to scale) but who knows...

As for the PG-13 rating, most action movies can get by that with not to much "realistic" gore, nudity or foul language. (Just mask the swearing with explosions, or other people talking, and you wont even notice its not there..)

As for a 9 year old watching the movie? When I was 9 I read Lovecraft and MR James, and loved movies like The Shining and Aliens... jeez.

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Y'know, they made a Blair Witch action figure, despite its physical absence from the actual movie. And that sunnuvagun still managed to be pretty nasty...though the fact that Todd McFarlane was involved certainly helped. I think there will definitely be an action figure/figurine involved, even if the monster is never clearly seen in the movie. That'll just give sculptors/designers more leeway.

As for PG-13 being a sellout move, let's not forget that gratuitous violence does not make a movie better. DeathProof would have been such a better movie if it wasn't for the random splatter death scenes. Also, overuse of violence and gore tends to make a movie less serious. Hell, I know I was laughing partway through Kill Bill, and I think that was pretty much an intentional side effect of so much gore. Hostel and Saw proved that horror comes more from atmosphere, pain, and torture than raw gore. I don't think Mr. Grumpypants has the means to play twisted mind games with his/her/its victims, so an R-rating wouldn't really do much. I'd be more satisfied with conservative and well-used violence, and a lot of tension. What you don't see is definitely scarier than what you do, so I vote for partially concealed death scenes that leave it to your imagination to come up with the most terrifying death to go with those horrible bone-popping noises, and thus a PG-13 rating.
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I don't think Mr. Grumpypants has the means to play twisted mind games with his/her/its victims...


He would if he was Cth... ***TWHACK!***

Never mind.

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i think maybe somebody like todd mcfarland might put out something

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Ajking3 wrote:
You also have to remember, movies are being rated alot differently than they used to. According to cloverfieldmovie.com and the PG-13 rating thing (I dont know a better term to use here...), this film will feature violence, terror, and disturbing images. Thats about all I can ask for. Most movies that catch an R now days or either ridiculously gorey, have excessively foul language, and deal with sex or drugs or nudity, and of course as most movies now have, a fine combination of both. I bet after we all see the movie (at least I hope), that we would agree if it was released 10 years ago, it probably would have fetched an R rating.

thats just my $.02.
The rating really doesnt change my excitement level for this film...I'm still pumped.


Yup, PG-13 isn't a death sentence for a horror/sci fi/monster movie. Alien was rated R and would be PG-13 now.

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Kitsuhime wrote:
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I do think this movie deserves to do well because of all the viral marketing that has been behind it, which keep in mind is free and quite enjoyable. I know that even if this movie is a waste of my $7, I'll consider it a big "thank you" for all the months that have followed after July.


Here here! Though I also think I'll pay more than seven... Smile

I don't know about 'toy.' See, toy implies like a Toys-R-US or a KB Toys little kiddie marketing franchise. I don't really see that happening- but something geared towards adults I can definitely see. Like those American McGee figurines, or something. Those aren't meant for kids AT ALL, but they're cool if you're into that sort of thing. They sell them at video game stores or Suncoast, rather than a store aimed toward children and parents of children. That seems not only viable, but like something I'd want to see. I think that a lot of the fans would like that too, if they were well constructed, limited edition, all that good stuff.

I'm optimistic about Cloverfield, but I'm trying not to make too many preconceptions. If it's bad, all those 'this sucks, you suck, Abrams suck' people can say "I told you so." But let me have my half full glass for now.


Jokers Child, Fair Lawn, New Jersey. they have web site. the majority of the "toys" are for adults. and priced like it too. (like the "Lady Death" snowglobe)

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Her wrote:
Yup, PG-13 isn't a death sentence for a horror/sci fi/monster movie. Alien was rated R and would be PG-13 now.

And the Alien franchise has had toys going back to the first movie.

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Reason I think McFarlane will make them is that they have the right to the LOST-figures, and they are probably the best company out there, no reason for JJ /Bad Robot to split the rights and make a contract with another company...

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I want a life-sized one to put outside my office. Smile

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Caerwiden wrote:
brettoniasam wrote:
Yeah, the PG-13 rating is DEFINITELY a sellout, so I WOULDN'T be surprised to see Grumpypants Supaa-Kung-Fu Action!!! figures (Severed SOL(tm) Head(tm) Sold Separately) appear to complete the sellout.

SHOULD this movie have action figures or other merchandising...? HELL, no. This movie wasn't designed as a franchise; it was designed as an experiment in non-traditional marketing. So action figures and playsets and coffee mugs and bedsheets and lunchboxes (i.e., traditional marketing) would be an essay in hypocrisy on JJ's part.

I hope to god JJ doesn't sell out, but it looks like he is.


Hahah, sellout, the favourite word of people who don't know what they're talking about.

You think he ever intended to not make money from this film? He's a movie maker, he sold his soul the minute he signed a contract. If you don't like that, don't give him your money.

He got the idea for the film when he was looking at Godzilla action figures for crying out loud.


Caerwiden, I *understand* that JJ Abrams is in the business of making money. On movies that were DESIGNED to be moneymakers.

What you don't understand is the nature of JJ Abrams' contract with Paramount. Remember what he said when he inked the deal? He and Paramount agreed that he would produce the big-budget marquee products like Trek and Dark Tower, but JJ ALSO said that he intends to make smaller films, about 25 mil budget, that were story- and character-based and DIDN'T rely on all the cash and marketing.

I'll give you two guesses as to which of these categories "Cloverfield" would fit under.

Do you understand now? Paramount is letting JJ play with this movie, Cloverfield, as an experiment. It's HIS baby, not Paramount's. In return for granting him a long leash for expressing his creativity in *this* movie, they'll damn sure keep him on a short leash for the BIG stuff, like Star Trek.

In other words, Cloverfield is an artistic vision. Either of JJ Abrams, or of his peeps (Drew etc). It's not *meant* to be a moneymaker. Trek and Dark Tower will be the moneymakers for him.

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