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[SPEC - QUESTION] - What was in the tanker?
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Euchre
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I don't know where anyone is getting the impression the tanker has barrels on it - tankers are basically huge tanks of oil. The hold of a tanker could actually hold something as large as Grumpypants. The problem is tankers don't usually have the huge doors on top of the hold, the way that freighters do. He'd basically have to have grown in the tanks.
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Slusho Addict wrote:
AeRoSpaceman wrote:

1. The tanker is listing and not capsized. (Could just be an error by the script writer but I doubt it as the Live shot of the tanker and the Heli's lighting it from above obviously prove that.)


The news would probably say capsized anyway, sounds more dramatic Smile


The news services will make initial assumptions, even though they may be completely wrong. Initial reports on 9/11 made no mention of an airplane, and all things considered it took them a while of live coverage to bring that up.

And I don't know how many of you have seen New York harbor at night. There are no lighthouses and no lights from shore to shore; it's pitch black. At night, there could be twenty Grumpymants swimming in the bay, knocking around every ship from Jersey City to Brooklyn, and nobody would know it.

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IncidentCloverfield
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The explosion... It had to be all that oil... And GP had to thrown it... I've looked at the new clip and I think what we are seeing is just one arm... This thing is huge... It sounds like it is very stealthy and sneaky... Here's my 2 theories...

Whatever tagruato has been doing has tampered and irrated the monster... It then follows the tanker because New York is the closest harbor to the chuai station... The tanker probably gives warning to the US government and when the tanker has nowhere to go... the attack ensues...
The monster attacks the tanker from under then throws the tanker... (We've already seen the SOL head thrown why not an ENTIRE oil tanker?) That would cause the major explosion...

Here me out on my second theory. When Beekeepers make honey CLOVERS are most popular used. (Got the idea at the supermarket. 95% of the honey was CLOVER honey.) Now a bee makes honey. Maybe thats the connection Tagruato is using GP as a bee to make the DSI. Could this whay the incident is called CLOVERFIELD?

Tagruato is drilling for the DSI and GP is attracted to it he escapes tagruatos clutches He follows the tanker and attacks the boat for the DSI...

Alright What you think?

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Fignut the Elder
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drill

Yeah that goes along with an idea someone had in another thread stating that the monster could actually "be the drill" for the various Tag stations.

Not my idea..but I liked it nonetheless.

peace.

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So quite clearly, MGP either followed or swam underneath the tanker to get into the city, masking it's sonar and radar presence, or the military knew about the presence of MGP beforehand. It's also possible that MGP was inside the tanker, but that opens up and tags along with whole new theories completely. So for the sake of believing that MGP was not manufactured or fabricated, and is a natural monster, we'll go with tailing the tanker or the military already knowing about MGP.

Either way, the tanker plays a significant part. #1 MGP is a smart little bugger and knows what sonar and radar waves are, thus prompting him to follow the tanker, or #2 the contents of the tanker are extremely valuable to MGP, causing him to follow it. I honestly don't believe the "thought it was prey" theory, or else it would've attacked Chuai station, thinking it was also "prey" (along with other inanimate objects such as SOL and boats) and if it did, the military would have an obvious signal to an oncoming or impeding threat, thus, again, explaining the military presence.

What's confirmed is that MGP has relation to the tanker. It would make logical sense, being that the only 3 of 3 reasonable explanations as to how MGP got in without being detected all involve and basically require the tanker. There's also the 4th, involving the military already seeing and noticing MGP and not doing anything about it until it reaches NYC as part of covering it up, but that ruins the fun of having this thread. So we know how following the tanker works. And we also speculate that the tanker is carrying SBN or DSI. We also know that the tanker could be pure coincidence, and that it never actually came from Chuai, or had anything to do with MGP besides it getting tipped. But there's also the Tagruato insignia on the ship's hull. All we know is that the tanker is related. It also becomes a significant plot sequence because it could be the cause of the military response, it could be the spawning point of being media recognized with the Earthquake, it could be the exploding fireball, it could be the vessel in which MGP was delivered to NYC, it could be part of some ridiculous conspiracy, and it could be nothing but a shocker to mislead the news viewers or ARGers with the Tagruato symbol.

I like the DSI theory, and also with it tailing the ship, inadvertantly causing it to be masked. This makes MGP not look semi-intelligent, and explains how he got in undetected. The military response than becomes a problem. The military might have detected it anyway.

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Don't be sorry, you made more sense than 99% of this forum that thinks that they would be a large beast inside of a steel drum...


Hey, I said that Clover/GP was a large monster already and grew over hours on the tanker- up to 7 hours at the most with 4 hours at the least.

I also proposed that it could have followed the tanker.


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I STILL do not think that MGP 'grew' on the tanker. We really do not know where the tanker is with regards to the SoL. All it says on the news broadcaste is that it is in the harbor "near the SoL". Apparently, before that broadcaste they had an earthquake.

We still do not know the relationship of tanker, SoL, harbor...It seems all a moot point. Ballasts are seperations in the bottom of a ship which seperate compartments to allow the stoppage of potential floodage withing another compartment. Are they big enough to hold MGP...Not the one who attacks the city.

In the 5th video, Teddy says they have "found something or are making something..." I stick to my, they found frozon DNA that TAG was able to revitalize into the creature that is MGP. The Japanese are now, in today's news, trying to do that very thing with Mammoths. Did they do it on the Tag ship....Doubtfull.

The tanker is not yet capsized but damaged. That happened BEFORE SoL, therefore, GP picked up tanker and threw it into city, and then attacked SoL. We see teeth marks in SoL, maybe GP bit head off instead of clawed head and the metal is 'stuck' on an incisor or something..

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The news from the Whistleblower's e-mail that there is no oil on (presumably) Chuai station suggests that our damaged Tagruato tanker from the news broadcast is probably not carrying any oil. This would seem to boost the stock of both the monster-in-the-tanker and monster-followed-the-tanker theories.

We know from the recent interviews with Matt Reeves that we'll definitely see the monster. What we don't know is if we'll know where it comes from, or specifically, how it arrives in New York. I suspect they will use more news footage to imply the answer to these questions, though. This makes a great way for them to give us occasional "big picture" views of what is happening without violating the handycam approach.

I suspect that not long after the news broadcast we see in the clip, we see another news broadcast where they cut to a helicopter view of Mr. Grumpypants himself wreaking havoc in the harbor as he approaches Manhattan, with the reporter/anchor completely losing it as they try to describe the freakiest news footage ever broadcast. Perhaps the characters see this footage on a TV in a store window as they are running down a street after fleeing the bodega. Maybe we'll get a quick zoom shot on the side of the tanker showing some big jagged hole, or something that might answer our questions about how exactly MGP arrived in New York. It's fun to speculate.

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I'm still thinking SBN or some processed form of it was on the tanker. It's possible MGP was actually fairly large, but not ginormous, and was following the tanker. Once the tanker stopped, it overtook it, and cracked it open and drank/ate up on its fav food. If the rate at which our mystery-girl expands in the trailer is any indication, I'd think downing a massive amount in a short time could lead to incredible and fast growth.

He probably followed it as it left the station, all the way to shore.

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who says there has to be anything in the tanker? Maybe it was docked, ready to go out.

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The problem with the creature in the tanker theory is that it was capsized. Now if the creature escaped from the tanker it would most likely have more damage done to it and pry would have sunk but it's still floating there.

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Just because the Chuai location doesn't have any oil doesn't mean that the tanker couldn't have any oil in it, you have to consider the other stations (which DO contain oil).

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It's also entirely possible that the monster has nothing to do with the tanker...other than attacking it.

The sinking ship may serve two purposes:
1) A nod to the hardcore ARG fans by having a tanker with the Tag logo on it
2) To show that something very large and powerful is attacking the city from the water (along with the flying SoL head)

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Some Thing wrote:
It's also entirely possible that the monster has nothing to do with the tanker...other than attacking it.

The sinking ship may serve two purposes:
1) A nod to the hardcore ARG fans by having a tanker with the Tag logo on it
2) To show that something very large and powerful is attacking the city from the water (along with the flying SoL head)


I think the reason they put the Tag symbol on the boat was to show that Tagruato was the culprit and the monster was following or in that tanker. But hey its just a theory. You could be right, anybody could be right at this point.

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If it's a nod, it's quite an impressive one considering that footage was probably created several months ago...

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