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Knerdherd
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 		 kids from other braches
go to wikibruce
If you look at the first movie on Wikibruce, the 39 clues, you will see a scene where it pretty much shows you that Dan is Thomas and Amy is an
Ekat.
Heres the web adress:

http://various.wikibruce.com/39Clues

It's interesting, but not necessarily true...
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 		I've freeze framed that and taken it one step at a time. It says Cheung Ae, then there is a Tomas crest, on the other side it says Joan with an Ekatarina crest. Dan and Amy branch off AFTER the crests. I don't think this is "proof" enough. It is at 12 seconds into the video.

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 		 the vid on wikibruce
are you sure katsmom?
When i went back there a few minutes ago, it still seemed to me that the names Dan and Amy were almost on top of those crests. i admot you may be right, but i think it would help if we all could find a bigger version of this video. Smile

p.s. I'm having a lot of trouble keeping up with all the cahill web posts! there are so many!!! Confused

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 		Re: kids from other braches
Could be true.....
Knerdherd wrote:
If you look at the first movie on Wikibruce, the 39 clues, you will see a scene where it pretty much shows you that Dan is Thomas and Amy is an
Ekat.
Heres the web adress:

http://various.wikibruce.com/39Clues

It's interesting, but not necessarily true...


Could be true, it you look at the parents. The father, Arthur Trent, was an explorer, a trait of a Tomas. He could have been a Tomas and passed down his status to Dan like the phrase "like father like son". We could find out if Dan was a Tomas in the next book. (Still cant wait for it!). Arthur may not have the Cahill sir name but maybe he is like Alistair Oh, maybe he had a different sir name but still a Cahill.

The mother, Hope Cahill was an archaeologist, just like the Ekaterina founder, Katherine Cahill. Hope may not seem to be "involved" with the Ekats but I think Hope was actually an Ekat whether she knew it or not. Amy could have inherited her mother's status and thus resulting in Amy being an Ekat.

Putting the two siblings together, we result in Dan being a Tomas and Amy an Ekat.

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 		I'd tend to agree with you ekatprof. this doesn't mean that they aren't cahill branch, but it is very interesting.
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 		German Translation
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We only know of the original 4 siblings. Isn't that enough to validate my statement?

I just looked up "Der Ort, wo ich geboren war" on page 54 of the book. I come up empty. Does anyone know of a musical database? I was thinking that maybe it might be a clue. I have no idea where else to look though.


Katsmom, were you asking for a translation? If so it's German and is roughly "the village where I was born". Though I don't remember if the capitalization of the noun 'Ort' is normal in German or not. If that's not what you are looking for than sorry I don't have anything to add.

And I still hold to my theory that Amy and Dan have a Grandparent from each branch making them "true" Cahills

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 		One of the joys of not living the majority in my life is that a lot of the "foreign" words found in these books are not foreign to me. They are second and third and fourth languages. Cantonese is the fifth Wink I was actually looking for hte musical score for the song if it exists. I thought maybe that was the missing score. The back of the book is not from the Adagio that I found earlier.

MOB talks about a glass armonica. That was what I was refering to instead of hte harpsicord. But it doesn't show up in OFN. My colorcoding to help trigger my memory doesn't work quite so well when I use the same colors for both books Sad I should have known that.

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 		Katsmom, you talking about the glass armonica just got me into thinking. We've got a piece of music written for the armonica, played on a piano to find they have to go to Venica, where they play it on a harpsichord.

What's strangest about that little chain is the harpsichord. Mozart was literally at the forefront of music as one of the early users and writers for the pianoforte.

Originally Mozart wrote mostly for, and was a virtuoso on, the violin. But as his career continued on he got bored with the instrument and resumed working on keyboard instruments with renewed vigor since the piano was such an interesting thing in his time.

Both the clavichord and the harpsichord are limited in that they don't get louder or softer based off of how hard you hit the keys. They only get one volume, period. So the pianoforte (Italian for "soft, loud") was truly revolutionary for music in Mozart's day, which is why he wrote so much for it.
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katsmom wrote:
In fairness to me, when I was typing all that stuff up yesterday I was doing online listening marking. I was trying to do two things at once, and neither of them was getting done properly.
What the heck is that?!?

katsmom wrote:
aliceinwunderland wrote:
it really calls for a relational database.
A WHAT Shocked I can't even register for the wikibruce, how would I be able to do something if I don't even know what it is? Laughing I agree that a workable data base will be needed. My word files won't cut it once we get upwards of 300 cards. Rolling Eyes Like you, I'm on the back side of 40, and just haven't worked out how to do all this new stuff on the computers yet. Laughing
Well, if you know how to create a spreadsheet in Excel, that is like 2 dimensional, right? A relational database is sort of like creating an excel sheet for each card and linking them all together, so that it is multi-dimensional. And the best part is that you can filter, sort, query, generate reports, etc. My point was that the complexity of the information we are attempting to get our arms around exceeds a word document and is really more than Excel was designed to handle. The problem is that relational databases take a great deal of experience to properly set up.
Of course, that is based upon my understanding of what you were suggesting that we do. All day long, I kept hoping that we were going down the right track and that you wouldn't log in ask what the heck is going on here??! That's not what I was talking about. Laughing

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katsmom wrote:
I was actually looking for the musical score for the song if it exists. I thought maybe that was the missing score.
I got alot of hits on 'database musical score'. http://uwashington.worldcat.org was one. I think that it is likely that "Der Ort, wo ich geboren war" does not exist as a piece of music.

katsmom wrote:
MOB talks about a glass armonica.
There is a show on like the History Channel called Histories Mysteries. They recently had a show on BF's glass armonica. They said that of all his inventions, he was most proud of the armonica. Apparently, it was all the rage there for awhile, but fell out of favor when folks started using it for seances and it was labeled as devil music. Anyway, the one that BF played was passed down from to his daughter and then through the generations, one of them finally donated it to some BF museum in Philadelphia.
I didn't recall the armonica being mentioned in MOB. Rolling Eyes Short term memory is GONE! Laughing

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aliceinwunderland wrote:
katsmom wrote:
In fairness to me, when I was typing all that stuff up yesterday I was doing online listening marking. I was trying to do two things at once, and neither of them was getting done properly.
What the heck is that?!?
To graduate, students here have to take a 4 skills test. One part is listening, but they record it online and I mark it.

aliceinwunderland wrote:
Of course, that is based upon my understanding of what you were suggesting that we do.

I wasn't sugguesting we make a database. I was trying to work out the cards used to see what might show up in book 3. It was because of that kid writing that book 4 would be in Australia. It just got me thinking.

aliceinwunderland wrote:
katsmom wrote:
I was actually looking for the musical score for the song if it exists. I thought maybe that was the missing score.
I got alot of hits on 'database musical score'. http://uwashington.worldcat.org was one. I think that it is likely that "Der Ort, wo ich geboren war" does not exist as a piece of music.

Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't think it did, but I was hoping someone else knew where to look.

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katsmom wrote:
MOB talks about a glass armonica.
There is a show on like the History Channel called Histories Mysteries. They recently had a show on BF's glass armonica. They said that of all his inventions, he was most proud of the armonica. Apparently, it was all the rage there for awhile, but fell out of favor when folks started using it for seances and it was labeled as devil music. Anyway, the one that BF played was passed down from to his daughter and then through the generations, one of them finally donated it to some BF museum in Philadelphia.
I wonder if they used it to contact Houdini? Laughing Laughing "believe Roselline"
aliceinwunderland wrote:
I didn't recall the armonica being mentioned in MOB. Rolling Eyes Short term memory is GONE! Laughing
The glass armonica is mentioned on page 211. (orange-clues Laughing ) you should see my books, they are very colorful! Take a look at the back endpage of OFN. "Wildcat" and "Don't let Klose see this jump out at me". This one is from Area 7. Where have we seen that before? Wink

I have a feeling we are going to get tiny snippets of clues until the very end. Like you, I'm enjoying piecing them together and gaining more 'usless knowledge'

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Knerdherd wrote:
I'd tend to agree with you ekatprof. this doesn't mean that they aren't cahill branch, but it is very interesting.
page 29 MOB:"You know that the Cahill family is very large...very old. It has many branches. Page 40 MOB: "Maybe you weren't listening! There are four branches. "Which are we?" Dan Asked. "I don't know." Amy looked at MR. McIntyre for help. "She just mentioned hte names. She wouldn't tell me what we are."
If that isn't enough, page 112 OFN "four branches of the family" and finally page 168 OFN "And closer to understanding who we are!"

Did you read the books and understand them. Cahill is not a branch it is the familyname.

Making guesses is great, making assumptions is fine. Just try to look at what has been guessed at before (there is a search button at the top of every page). All of this about the video and Amy being a Ekat and Dan a Tomas has been discussed a while back. It doesn't mean reading the entire forum. Yes, I do realize that 96 pages is a lot. It simply means searching by entering a phrase or two to find out if it has been said before.

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 		do these points from the games affect us in any way later in the game like the points keep adding up from every tournamant thingy like this
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 		Re: the vid on wikibruce
are you sure katsmom?
Knerdherd wrote:
When i went back there a few minutes ago, it still seemed to me that the names Dan and Amy were almost on top of those crests. i admot you may be right, but i think it would help if we all could find a bigger version of this video. Smile

p.s. I'm having a lot of trouble keeping up with all the cahill web posts! there are so many!!! Confused


If you go to youtube and type in "The 39 clues" you will find it there. YOu can even full screen the youtube videos.

Wind Lane wrote:
Katsmom, you talking about the glass armonica just got me into thinking. We've got a piece of music written for the armonica, played on a piano to find they have to go to Venica, where they play it on a harpsichord.

What's strangest about that little chain is the harpsichord. Mozart was literally at the forefront of music as one of the early users and writers for the pianoforte.

Originally Mozart wrote mostly for, and was a virtuoso on, the violin. But as his career continued on he got bored with the instrument and resumed working on keyboard instruments with renewed vigor since the piano was such an interesting thing in his time.

Both the clavichord and the harpsichord are limited in that they don't get louder or softer based off of how hard you hit the keys. They only get one volume, period. So the pianoforte (Italian for "soft, loud") was truly revolutionary for music in Mozart's day, which is why he wrote so much for it.

Thanks for all that Wind Lane. I only know Adagio from when my daughter still watched Little Einsteins. Slowly and with dignity. Laughing

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do these points from the games affect us in any way later in the game like the points keep adding up from every tournamant thingy like this
Scholastic has said "Every child can be a winner" IF they roll over the points, that wouldn't be the case. But The best answer is we don't know! My own opinion is that it wouldn't be fair. If they are giving out the first prize on 31 Dec, then roll over the points, the next time around the previous winner has a higher chance of winning again. Confused

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