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Hunter6
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Re: Surveilence camera code theory (revised)
Could it be true.......?

Ekatprof wrote:
Wind Lane wrote:

Knerdherd wrote:
Ekatprof said:
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It could be a curse because the card says to use it to spy on "other cahills" which could mean that the more codes we put in, the more people that could be spying on us.

On the other hand, it could be a gift. We may be able to use these codes to spy on any other cahill of our choice and sort of hack into their account.


I don't think that adding these codes will be detrimental to us in any way for two reasons:
1: I don't think that scholastic wants to have to remember where the original codes came from (whose user got the card first) Rolling Eyes
2: Why would you want to spy on these people anyways????? what good would it do you??? it seems to me that all you could do would be to watch them do missions, or now that i think about it, the only thing you could really do would be to steal cards from them Very Happy . i still don't think that's likely.


The "spying" could just be access to the family branch archives of those you've passed your bug to. And it wouldn't be hard to track where the original card code came from as this is all being handled by computers. Plus, if they didn't want to waste storage space with where the card came from, they can just look up who has card #2 in their "My Cards" collection under that same code since only the original code owner would get cards 2-6 from it.


These curse/gift/nuisance or what ever it is camera codes could be dangerous to us. According to what i understand, the cahills have been backstabbing each other for hundreds of years now.

This could mean that these camera codes may allow us to backstab others and may allow us not only to see their branch's top secret information, but maybe STEAL their cards too.

Since some cards are clues, maybe we could steal them too.

For example, take the 39 clues so far.

In the story, the clues themselves can be stolen if their finders are not careful. Amy and Dan could have lost their first clue in MoB at the church to the Kabras but since Amy and Dan are the heroes of the story, they managed to hang on to it.

Hopefully im wrong and the camera codes are just a way to make the series more popular, but seeing that this is the cahill family, my theory may be unfortunately (or fortunately) right.

Who cares if someone can hack into your account. They can do only good things like adding cards and getting a higher score.
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Hunter6
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Card #418

Has anyone actually seen Neslie Gomez's picture?

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Ekatprof
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Re: Surveilence camera code theory (revised)
Could it be true.......?

Hunter6 wrote:
Ekatprof wrote:
Wind Lane wrote:

Knerdherd wrote:
Ekatprof said:
Quote:
It could be a curse because the card says to use it to spy on "other cahills" which could mean that the more codes we put in, the more people that could be spying on us.

On the other hand, it could be a gift. We may be able to use these codes to spy on any other cahill of our choice and sort of hack into their account.


I don't think that adding these codes will be detrimental to us in any way for two reasons:
1: I don't think that scholastic wants to have to remember where the original codes came from (whose user got the card first) Rolling Eyes
2: Why would you want to spy on these people anyways????? what good would it do you??? it seems to me that all you could do would be to watch them do missions, or now that i think about it, the only thing you could really do would be to steal cards from them Very Happy . i still don't think that's likely.


The "spying" could just be access to the family branch archives of those you've passed your bug to. And it wouldn't be hard to track where the original card code came from as this is all being handled by computers. Plus, if they didn't want to waste storage space with where the card came from, they can just look up who has card #2 in their "My Cards" collection under that same code since only the original code owner would get cards 2-6 from it.


These curse/gift/nuisance or what ever it is camera codes could be dangerous to us. According to what i understand, the cahills have been backstabbing each other for hundreds of years now.

This could mean that these camera codes may allow us to backstab others and may allow us not only to see their branch's top secret information, but maybe STEAL their cards too.

Since some cards are clues, maybe we could steal them too.

For example, take the 39 clues so far.

In the story, the clues themselves can be stolen if their finders are not careful. Amy and Dan could have lost their first clue in MoB at the church to the Kabras but since Amy and Dan are the heroes of the story, they managed to hang on to it.

Hopefully im wrong and the camera codes are just a way to make the series more popular, but seeing that this is the cahill family, my theory may be unfortunately (or fortunately) right.

Who cares if someone can hack into your account. They can do only good things like adding cards and getting a higher score.


I think hacking can mean a lot to those 6-14 kids. I mean if everybody keeps hacking to get a higher score, those kids who are going for the prize money will lose out will they?

And by the way, how do you hack to add cards?

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aliceinwunderland
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Re: Limestone contuinued.
I'm a dork

bando2 wrote:
There is also this from a patent abstract that I only barely grasp. Anyone with more chem knowledge is welcome to correct me.

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A method is described for reducing the volume of radioactive waste produced during the solution mining of uranium and for recovering uranium from it. The recovery leach, which contains uranium in solution and is supersaturated with calcium carbonate, is treated with bicarbonate and made basic which precipitates calcium carbonate and some of the uranium. The precipitated calcium carbonate is dissolved with acid and the uranium in the solution is removed by extraction or precipitation. The remaining solution is contacted with sulfate ions and barium or strontium ions to precipitate BaSO4.RaSO4 or SrSO4.RaSO4, the principal radioactive constituent in the solid waste product.


Translation (as best as I am able): When Uranium (a clue) is mined it creates waste/byproduct which still contains some uranium. when this is combined with lots of Calcium Carbonate (limestone) and combined with something else to make it basic a solid can be separated from the liquid from which Uranium can be removed by a certain process.

I have a Chemistry degree (zero job experience), but don't take this as the absolute truth. I read it a little differently. The "recovery leach ... is supersaturated with calcium carbonate" to me means that the mining process resulted in a solution that was supersaturated with calcium carbonate, not that it was "combined with lots of Calcium Carbonate". Someone else here (TheRealPip?) has some chemistry background. My nitpick doesn't matter anyway. The cool thing is that you found a way to link some potential clues. Smile

I'm not an Ekat either. Not really sure how I ended up a Janus. I think it must be that I would love to have some artistic talents, but alas, I am really so much more of an ekat (with a little lucian mixed in Evil or Very Mad )

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Re: Card #418

Hunter6 wrote:
Has anyone actually seen Neslie Gomez's picture?


The only picture I've seen is the stupid monkey on her Cliqueme page at the 39 clues website. Maybe the scholastic people cant find an actress to be her yet.

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katsmom
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inert liquids

I was thinking about the bottle that amy and dan lost so i was playing as always and came up with this page. http://depletedcranium.com/?p=562 If nothing else, it has a great picture of Homer on it.

What would the substance be you science people?

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aliceinwunderland
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Re: Surveilence camera code theory (revised)
Could it be true.......?

Ekatprof wrote:
I think hacking can mean a lot to those 6-14 kids. I mean if everybody keeps hacking to get a higher score, those kids who are going for the prize money will lose out will they?

And by the way, how do you hack to add cards?
How about a little editing on the quotes? Not sure that I understand your statement. Are you implying that it is kids in that age range doing the hacking? I think it is very unlikely that kids under 14 have the skills to hack a website. I don't doubt that it is kids, but more likely ones that are outside the prize money range.

BTW, hacking pretty much connotes that it is for bad/mischievous/illegal purposes.

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Re: inert liquids

katsmom wrote:
I was thinking about the bottle that amy and dan lost so i was playing as always and came up with this page. http://depletedcranium.com/?p=562 If nothing else, it has a great picture of Homer on it.

What would the substance be you science people?
Once again, I am without the first book and I don't recall enough about the bottle to make an informed comment. Is it possible that it is some
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recovery leach, which contains uranium in solution and is supersaturated with calcium carbonate
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aliceinwunderland
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Re: inert liquids

katsmom wrote:
came up with this page. http://depletedcranium.com/?p=562
There sure are alot of references to our clues on that page: copper, phosphorescent, uranium. No tungsten or iron solute, though. Sad
Just so that I can take credit in the future, here are some wild guesses for future clues: mercury, zinc, gallium, and plutonium Wink

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Re: Surveilence camera code theory (revised)
Could it be true.......?

aliceinwunderland wrote:
Ekatprof wrote:
I think hacking can mean a lot to those 6-14 kids. I mean if everybody keeps hacking to get a higher score, those kids who are going for the prize money will lose out will they?

And by the way, how do you hack to add cards?
How about a little editing on the quotes? Not sure that I understand your statement. Are you implying that it is kids in that age range doing the hacking? I think it is very unlikely that kids under 14 have the skills to hack a website. I don't doubt that it is kids, but more likely ones that are outside the prize money range.

BTW, hacking pretty much connotes that it is for bad/mischievous/illegal purposes.


Kids under 14 are unlikely to know how to hack, I agree. But an adult, possibly their parents/relative/paid hacker could do it for them...

katsmom wrote:
I was thinking about the bottle that amy and dan lost so i was playing as always and came up with this page. http://depletedcranium.com/?p=562 If nothing else, it has a great picture of Homer on it.

What would the substance be you science people?


I read the webpage that katsmom posted and saw this interesting bit.

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The solution to this was to use a more potent phosphorescent material. In 1908 a paint was developed which used zinc sulfide doped with copper which could produce a visible light glow when bombarded with charged particles. The addition of a tiny amount of radium to the paint provided these particles and that assured a continuous glow of the paint. The glow came primarily from the beta particles emitted from radium and its daughter products and had a very recognizable green glow, not that unlike modern "glow in the dark" products which require exposure to light to produce a glow.


It mentions the "very recognizable green glow" and the stuff's inert. The "charged particles" in the article may be able to replace with a "bolt of lightning".

Who knows, this could be the stuff we were looking for. If it is, how does it help to free the truth as mentioned on MoB?

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aliceinwunderland
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Re: Card #418

Ekatprof wrote:
Hunter6 wrote:
Has anyone actually seen Nellie Gomez's picture?
The only picture I've seen is the stupid monkey on her Cliqueme page at the 39 clues website. Maybe the scholastic people cant find an actress to be her yet.
I thought I had seen a pic of her somewhere. Is it just my imagination? That's what I love about books... blurs the edges between reality and fiction so that I no longer know what's real. Shocked
So, is there a reason you are looking for a pic? Do you have a theory about her that you could share? Perhaps you just want to get a look at her nose ring (was is a snake or something?). That may be why there is no picture... they couldn't find an actress willing to get her nose pierced!

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Re: Card #418

Hunter6 wrote:
Has anyone actually seen Neslie Gomez's picture?

I'm not convinced there is a card # 418
The http://viraladx.com/The_39_Clues.html page took the info from wikipedia.
The wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_39_Clues was modified on December 7th by ip 69.141.216.77.
That IP address has also added useless (and misspelled) information to an article about Brad Benson, the football player.
There is nothing credible about the entry or the person who made the entry, except the fact that the person read book 1.
I am going to ignore card "# 418, the Babysitter" until I hear from a reliable source.

Edit - That doesn't mean I'm ignoring Nellie - she's a main character to the books, and maybe there is a picture somewhere. I'm just ignoring the rumor that there is a card #418 titled the Babysitter.
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 card 418

it might be nellie but when it comes out we will know

also it wold be card#418-the au pair. (im an ekat not a thomas like dan)

and i finally got round to joinong! Flaming Nutter Very Happy Flaming Nutter

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Free Digitized Cards with SASE
39 Clues digital cards by mail

Has anybody gotten these? My sons are really into this, and I contacted Scholastic to see if I can get the 6 free cards for each of them for each book. (I only have 1 copy of book 1) I was told that both kids can use the same digitized cards. So I take that to mean the codes are not unique. So, I'm thinking, if the cards are not unique, can I find the codes online without spending the postage and wait for each set of 6 cards? Anybody have the mail away codes so we can try this theory and see if it works?

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Re: Free Digitized Cards with SASE
39 Clues digital cards by mail

miriam wrote:
Has anybody gotten these? My sons are really into this, and I contacted Scholastic to see if I can get the 6 free cards for each of them for each book. (I only have 1 copy of book 1) I was told that both kids can use the same digitized cards. So I take that to mean the codes are not unique. So, I'm thinking, if the cards are not unique, can I find the codes online without spending the postage and wait for each set of 6 cards? Anybody have the mail away codes so we can try this theory and see if it works?
You can do a search on the forum and see that there have been folks here that mailed in a SASE to get the codes. Here's the folks I found that got codes through the mail, but it's unclear if these were cards 1-6 (for the book): danteIL, TheRealPip, tyty2001 and FLgata. You might try sending them a PM and ask. You can also look at the list of people what have shared their codes at http://various.wikibruce.com/39Clues#Surveillance_camera_codes Codes that end with XX are codes requested by snail mail. Those folks include kat_xoxo, HighTideOnRhum, Pilgrim2008, and sapagoo. Your best bet there is sapagoo (the rest are either not registered or haven't posted in awhile). I am suspicious of kat_xoxo -- that could be an early guest username for katsmom and she is always up for trying new things. Wink Shocked

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