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aliceinwunderland
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Re: Re-playing Mission 1
There must be something there

Gilbo wrote:

aliceinwunderland wrote:

+ On screen 5, the card for Paul Addison says that he was last seen at Drumnadrochit Docks, Scotland.

IF you are an Ekat, you would also know that Drumnadrochit is where Anne Cahill (Nella Chain) is from.....

I didn't know that! I am a Janus. Mission 1 clearly says that Anne Cahill's hometown was Loch Ness, Scotland. Of course, that doesn't make sense since Loch Ness is a lake and not a town. So I went to look at where Loch Ness is in relation to Drumnadrochit. It is far enough away that I don't think that Drumnadrochit would have any docks. Which makes me wonder if that link I found for the Scooby-Doo DVD might actually be worth looking into further.

Has anyone thought of using google maps or something to plot everything? It might be worthwhile to do. Although, it would likely take inputs from all four families to get all of the locations mentioned in all the secret archives. Just a thought.

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:06 am

RUSTY96
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Houdini

Does anyone else get why the first book was blue?
I mean, with the books record, you'd think the colour would be significant.
Blue is Tomas and book 2 is going to be green, Janus.
But book 1 hardly mentions the Tomas, it is mainly Lucian.
Does any one have any theories???
RUSTY96

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:28 am

dragongirl76
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Re: Houdini Card just appeared

aliceinwunderland wrote:

dragongirl76 wrote:

aliceinwunderland wrote:

The only two words that look out of place to me are "Rosabelle, Believe".

Rosabelle was the nick name that Houdini had for his wife

Way to go dragongirl76! How did you know that? Now we are getting somewhere! I found this at www.answers.com/topic/harry-houdini:

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Among the challenges Houdini continuously issued to mediums was one that could be met only after his death. He stated that if spirit survival was possible, he would communicate with his wife, Bess, in a secret two-word code message known to no one else.

Three years after Houdini's death, the medium Arthur Ford gave Bess Houdini a two-word message, "Rosabelle believe," in the special code used by the Houdinis in an early mind-reading act. Rosabelle had been a pet name used by Houdini for his wife.

I don't know what significance it has, but I am starting think that there could be several layers to this game.

How's this for a wild theory: Houdini died on Halloween... I got a free Houdini card on Halloween... also on Halloween, I discovered the secret two words... therefore Houdini was attempting to contact me on his deathdate! If only I had realized this last night!

Before Houdini died he told people that he would come back, and that escaping the world of the dead would his greatest feat of magic. Every year on Halloween people try and somon him. Just happened to see a Ripley's believe it or not about it the other day.

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:19 am

dragongirl76
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titanic memorial plaque

I believe this explains the sign next the to the one left by the Madrigals
http://www.titanic1.org/articles/index.asp

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:33 am

aliceinwunderland
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Re: Significance of book color

RUSTY96 wrote:

Does anyone else get why the first book was blue?

I don't necessarily have a well-formed theory, but here are some ramblings...

I noticed that the Titanic clue was clearly referred to as an Ekaterina clue -- as if clues belong to and/or are guarded by a specific branch of the Cahill family. Using this logic, I might think that the first clue we got with Maze of Bones was a Lucian clue (it was hidden by Benjamin Franklin, right?). However, Grace was actually the one that hid the Titanic clue. Maybe the same is true of Ben Franklin? Is it possible that he hid it for a Tomas? Maybe there is alot of inter-branch assistance that goes on. Look at us here. We help each other and are from different branches.

I am not a Tomas, but maybe a Tomas with access to their archives can figure something out. Is there any mention of Ben Franklin working with a Tomas in the Tomas archives?

Alice

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:31 am

Maggie
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Re: Re-playing Mission 1
There must be something there

aliceinwunderland wrote:

For those that are bored that there is nothing new on the website, I think that you need to go back to look for "secrets of the RMS Titanic"

These may not be secrets, but they could mean something in the future of the game:

+ At the top of the first screen of the briefing there is a partial phrase that looks like it is in German: "r gesunkene Oceandampfurl". Anyone want to try and translate that? I am fairly certain that "gesukene" means sunken. And what could be the portion that cannot be seen? And why would the game designers put that in German?

gesunkene Oceandampfer = sunken ocean steamer

The clue could have originated in Germany and was taken during the war. It could have been brought to Anne in Scotland for safe keeping.

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+ On screen 5, the card for Paul Addison says that he was last seen at Drumnadrochit Docks, Scotland. I see on the sign post of the "Loch Ness" page that it must be close to Loch Ness. When I googled the exact phrase, the only hit was for a Scooby Doo DVD!

When I put in Drumnadrochit Docks, Scotland Loch Ness, I came across a website called Land of the Water Horse: Exploring Scotland's Loch Ness Region and it states:

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There have been stories for years, going all the way back to 565, when Saint Columba reportedly drove away a water monster by making the sign of the cross over Loch Ness. Norse and Celtic folklore embraces several mysterious water-dwelling creatures, including a sea serpent called the Orm and malevolent kelpies (a.k.a. water horses) that would seize fishermen and drag them into the depths never to be seen again.

But the Nessie phenomenon did not hit fever pitch until the 1930s when the lakeshore highway between Inverness and Fort Augustus was completed. Monster sightings skyrocketed, research parties were dispatched to find Nessie, and a local doctor snapped the famous black-and-white photo of a long-necked dinosaur swimming through the lake.
A legend was born.
And so was local tourism. The photo was later revealed as a hoax.

The village of Drumnadrochit on the lake's western shore is Nessie central, home to half a dozen gift shops, several large plaster plesiosaurs that provide a backdrop for countless snapshots, and two multimedia museums centered around the world's most famous aquatic dinosaur.
....
The boat dropped me at a dock below Urquhart Castle, its stone ramparts and towers crowning a bluff above the lake. One of the largest castles in Scotland, the 13th century fortress witnessed many a bloody encounter between the English and Scots.
``I was a true believer when I first started,'' says Shine. ``But lack of scientific evidence has led me to conclude there is no Nessie. But there are more than 1,000 people out there - the many who have claimed to have seen the creature - who would beg to differ.''
....
Exploring the lake by submarine, sonar and various other means, Shine has been able to disprove most of the sightings as wakes, waves, shadows, vertical blasts of air and other natural phenomenon. Still, he allows for the possibility that the creature may very well exist. ``One binding thing about all the people who come to Loch Ness is that we would all very much like for there to be something there.''

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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:05 pm

dragongirl76
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Flag of Scotland

So until now I had thought that the blue & white flags at nessie's shack had something to do with the madrigal's or possibly the roman numeral M, it still could idk, but now I think they could be there simply because it's the national flag of Scotland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Scotland

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:39 pm

aliceinwunderland
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Re: Re-playing Mission 1
There must be something there

Maggie wrote:

gesunkene Oceandampfer = sunken ocean steamer

The clue could have originated in Germany and was taken during the war. It could have been brought to Anne in Scotland for safe keeping.

I figured the translation was something like that. I thought that I searched for gesunkene Oceandampfer earlier. Just now, I got a hit on an Austrian version eBay of all places! At least it looks like it's Austrian. Do Austrians speak German? Anyway, there is a postcard of the 1912 photo of the Titanic in sepia tone, showing the liner under tow whilst getting steam up, enititled "Titanic" der gesunkene Oceandampfer. I believe that postcard is the backdrop to the opening screen of Mission 1.

Maggie wrote:

aliceinwunderland wrote:

When I googled the exact phrase "Drumnadrochit Docks", the only hit was for a Scooby Doo DVD!

When I put in Drumnadrochit Docks, Scotland Loch Ness, I came across a website called Land of the Water Horse: Exploring Scotland's Loch Ness Region and it states:

Quote:

But the Nessie phenomenon did not hit fever pitch until the 1930s ... Monster sightings skyrocketed

I went back to see if the 1930s might have been when Grace Cahill crashed her plane in Loch Ness. Doesn't look like it. She was born in 1929! Her letter to Nella that explains that she crashed her plane with the package was dated June 18th, 1982. Assuming the letter was sent shortly after she crashed, Grace was 53 and flying an open cockpit plane! Impressive!

A couple of thoughts: How long do you figure Grace had the clue in the US? It says that Anne/Nella gave Grace the clue because George McClain was snooping around. I tried to find something out about George McClain, but in the Cahill website, there are no links returned when searching his name. Strange. When I looked at his card, the card now states that he is from "Loch Ness, Arkansas", while the text still refers to Experiment, GA. I looked on google maps and there is are a bunch of street names begining with "Loch" in Mountain Home, Arkansas, one of which is Loch Ness.

In 1912, Anne was 18, which means that in 1982, she would have been 88. I would have thought at that age, she would have been out of the clue guarding business.

And that's enough for now.

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:33 pm
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aliceinwunderland
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Re: Flag of Scotland

dragongirl76 wrote:

That's what HighTideOnRhum said awhile back, and I have been looking at that as well as a possibility. Here are a few reasons why I don't think it is the Scottish flag:

~~And the website just changed!~~ Oops! I never go to www.the39clues.com/game So, it was all new to me when I clicked on "The Game". I guess I was a little over-excited after seeing that the home town for George McClain had so obviously changed.

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:44 pm
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dragongirl76
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huh??

What am I missing how did the website change?

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:53 pm

TheRealPip
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Re: 8 Missing Cards Are NOT 400's

wacaga wrote:

Maggie wrote:

katsmom wrote:

I'm curious, why does it show I need 9 cards yet? I know I am missing 1 (32) and there are 2 (or 3-I'm not sure) free cards from the Uk I don't have. There are 6 cards with book 2 and 3 which would make a total of 15 or 16. So why does it only show 9 missing?

They are counting the 17 cards in the 400 series as cards missing. We, as a group, are missing 8 of the 17 cards and you are missing one more making 9.

If you check 39 Clues - Various you'll see that the 8 missing cards from the 400's have identical codes to the ones we already have. They are just "Physical" cards for coded "Virtual" cards we already have. So the 8 missing cards will require 8 new & different codes to unlock. Does anybody agree?

I am not sure about this. Obviously, I don't know becase noone has yet reported any codes or cards for the ones we are missing (if they did, we woudln't be missing them). However, per your theory, card 405 and 410 should have the same code. But they don't (they are G69CKR3K9T and G69D22369T).

Personally, I thnik the 8 missing 400+ codes/cards are the 8 yet unidentified cards in the "list of 78".

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My surveillance camera codes are 22FC46MJX2 and 237DRWJJX2... use them and pass them on!

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:58 pm

aliceinwunderland
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Game Time Card and cafe frauenhuber

So I was checking out "The Game" page and I couldn't help but notice that there was a Game Time Card slipped behind the clue briefing. What do you suppose is up with that? Are they keeping track of how much time we spend on the site?

And on a totally separate note, when I was reading up on Grace Cahill, I wondered how much of her sketch from her visit to Vienna was accurate, so I googled "cafe frauenhuber" and sure enough, it is real. I haven't tried to make out anything else from the sketch, but I'll bet there is something important in there.

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:18 pm

missm
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I've looked up the element number 85 - Astatine, and it currently has no known uses. The Cahill secret? Also, anyone thought of Saladin's purpose in the book? An odd name for a cat, but then it does fit in with the type of cat - Egyptian Mau. I did a search on Saladin and B.F. - he refers to the sultan in one (or more?) of his writings. (Saladin being an important Sultan during the 3rd Crusade)

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:11 pm

wacaga
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Re: 8 Missing Cards Are NOT 400's

TheRealPip wrote:

wacaga wrote:

Maggie wrote:

katsmom wrote:

They are counting the 17 cards in the 400 series as cards missing. We, as a group, are missing 8 of the 17 cards and you are missing one more making 9.

I am not sure about this. Obviously, I don't know becase noone has yet reported any codes or cards for the ones we are missing (if they did, we woudln't be missing them). However, per your theory, card 405 and 410 should have the same code. But they don't (they are G69CKR3K9T and G69D22369T).

Personally, I thnik the 8 missing 400+ codes/cards are the 8 yet unidentified cards in the "list of 78".
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My surveillance camera codes are 22FC46MJX2 and 237DRWJJX2... use them and pass them on!

OK we have 9 unlocked codes which leaves 8 locked in the 400's right? We don't think so. For unlocked coded #416, a "physical" card #400 is ientical, including CODE, to #416. UH-OH, now there's only 7! There's more that's identical. Check out P.8 of postings. Also if the 400's are for PROMO purposes, why keep these codes secret? Isn't the Promo over yet?

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:07 pm

aliceinwunderland
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Re: 85

missm wrote:

I've looked up the element number 85 - Astatine, and it currently has no known uses. The Cahill secret?

Good thought. I have never heard of that element before. Kind of sad since my undergrad degree was Chemistry! Could very well be involved in the Cahill secret.

Speaking of the chemical elements and such that have been the clues so far... when I looked up phosphorus on wiki, I saw that it was discovered when someone was trying to make gold (out of urine!). There sure does seem to be alot of information that keeps coming back to making gold.

My theory about the Cahill secret is that it will turn out to be something like "education is the key".

missm wrote:

anyone thought of Saladin's purpose in the book? An odd name for a cat, but then it does fit in with the type of cat - Egyptian Mau. I did a search on Saladin and B.F. - he refers to the sultan in one (or more?) of his writings.

According to wiki, Egyptian Maus are well known for intelligence. As far as a purpose, wasn't he integral to getting Dan and Amy out of the burning house or something? Or maybe it was during one of the things in Paris. Didn't Saladin alert them? I have already forgotten.
I had never heard of that breed previously. I will take your word that is what Saladin is (again, already forgotten). I am interested to know why you included B.F. in the search? I assume that BF is for Ben Franklin? Just trying to follow along.

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:40 pm

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