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wacaga
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Re: current list of virtual and physical cards

[quote="TheRealPip"]
wacaga wrote:
Yes. Correct/Add: 400-403 are not mis-prints, 412 is another dupe of 403/414 (these look like they going to end up as Virtual to me. 409 is a dupe of Virtual 404 & probably is Physical. 408 has NO DUPE and is called "The Spaz" - again as Physical.




Also, how do we know that 408 has a physical version? Has this been confirmed? If so, where? And what is the code?

This is purely hypothecial at this point. There is a pattern here. 4-1-4-1 (then 3). Cards invovled: 4(400-403), 1-404, 4(405-408), 1-409, then (410-412). I'm tired & need to say goodnight!

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TheRealPip
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Re: current list of virtual and physical cards

wacaga wrote:
TheRealPip wrote:
wacaga wrote:
Yes. Correct/Add: 400-403 are not mis-prints, 412 is another dupe of 403/414 (these look like they going to end up as Virtual to me. 409 is a dupe of Virtual 404 & probably is Physical. 408 has NO DUPE and is called "The Spaz" - again as Physical.




Also, how do we know that 408 has a physical version? Has this been confirmed? If so, where? And what is the code?


This is purely hypothecial at this point. There is a pattern here. 4-1-4-1 (then 3). Cards invovled: 4(400-403), 1-404, 4(405-408), 1-409, then (410-412). I'm tired & need to say goodnight!


What pattern is this? I am not seeing it. It looks like:

  • you start out with either 4 cards that we haven't unlocked virtually yet or that have a physical card with that number on it that unlocks a different card virtually.
  • Then there is a so far "virtual only" card.
  • Then 3 cards confirmed physical in the US along with 1 we haven't found yet (which I presume you are saying is physical too?).
  • Then another one we haven't found yet (are you guessing this is virtual only?).
  • Then two that are so far virtual only and another one we haven't found yet (this is where you lost me... I sort of saw what might be a pattern before this... but I am not sure there is enough to say it was a pattern... unless I am missing what the pattern is).
  • ... but then you left off the last 4 cards


I am not really seeing this pattern, so maybe you could expain it a bit more. Sorry, I am not getting it.

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wacaga
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Re: current list of virtual and physical cards

TheRealPip wrote:
wacaga wrote:
#2 which unlocked #405 is a MISPRINT. The card should have been printed as 405-You're info doesn't indicate this. 400-403 are not misprints. Even you, writing "so this is a misprint I THINK" seem to have some doubts. Scholastic did this intentionally. They are not going to make 4 mistakes on the 1st 4 cards of their promotional series (COMMON SENSE). They made, if you will a "mini-puzzle" to search for the missing cards. Fooled me! So which is the misprint - the code which led you to the wrong 400 number or the # itself? Neither! This was done for us to scratch our head, have some fun, and smile when the puzzle is solved. "Call me crazy" No. "Frustrated"? like the rest of us? Yes. But 1 think for sure, 100%, we're ALL having fun.


I believe I did call attention to the printing discripency.

thereqlpip wrote:
  • Card 405: Surveillance - G69CKR3K9T (Borders Card) --- physical card found in US (amoung other places), but printed ast #2 (it does unlock 405)


I put the words "I think", to reflect my opinion (vs my stating a fact) that it is a misprint. What data do you have that Scholastic intentionally created a discrepency between the name and number of the online and virtual version of these cards? You indicate that Scholastic did make a mistake in the printing of card 405 (I agree with you on this) because the number on the card does not agree with the number unlocked virutally. Why do you think that 405 is a misprint but 400-403 are not? What possible reason could there be other than error? Do you honestly believe that there is some clue or mystery that can be unlocked or resoned out by "solving the puzzle" of this mismatch?

I do not beleive that Scholastic made any sort of puzzle to search for "missing cards". This game is focused on children as young as 6. To get all of these "400+" cards/codes you need to either have contacts in or be able to travel to different areas of the globe (something very few children are going to be able to manage effectivly).

In my opinion (and I say opinion here because I don't work for Scholastic and don't konw for sure, not because I don't beleive it is true) the physical versions that I have of cards 400-403 that unlock cards 413-416 are misprints. They should have been numbered 413-416 (or they should have had a different code printed on the card... either way, a misprint). The error might stem from the fact that Scholastic, for some reason, has chosen to make redundant versions of most of the "400+" cards and there seems to be some mixup on either the code or the numbering/title of the card where it's "twin" was applied. If every other card printed so far has the same title and number physically as virtually (again with 405 the only other exception that everyone seems to agree is a misprint) and there is the fact that there is a very easy explanation to indicate the reson for the mixup (the "twined cards"), why are you inisiting that there is some deeper meaning without any fact or theories or data to support this?


Here is what I think... I think that there is a seperate code that will unlock the virtual cards 400-403 (just like we have found seperate cocdes for 405/411 and 406/410). There may or may not be physical cards to go along with them, but in my opinion, there will be virtual codes. What data do I have to support my theory?

  • There are (currently) exactly 78 possible cards to unlock. Once you subtract the 55 you get from packs and the 6 from first book you are left with 17. The exact number of cards potentially in the range of 400-416
  • If there were some "mysterious" other cards that would be unlocked that would fill the void if cards 400-403 wern't "twined" with 413-416, then we would see them in the credits section of the website. We don't (and indeed, we see just the oppisite, that the photo credits seem to indicate that we have "twined" unlockable cards).
  • Since we have already found "twined" codes (405/411 and 406/410) it makes perfect, logical sence that the remaining 'twins" will also behave the same way.
  • There are no other cards that behave this way (unlocking a different card virtually than is printed physically... again other than 405 which everyone agrees is a misprint)
  • There is an easy explanation of why this error could have been made (the refrenced "twinned" card phonomonon)



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My surveillance camera codes are 22FC46MJX2 and 237DRWJJX2... use them and pass them on!
But you didn't say this is a Misprint on 405 which is the most obvious of all. There is no card printed (physical 405) that I am aware of. It's a Misprint! Outside 400-403 & info on 412 you are 100% correct at this time. I believe things will change immensely over the next 20 days or so. Since you now claim 400-403 is your OPINION, what data do you have to dispute my OPINION? I thought you were only interested in those 39Clues stuff that was 100% accurate. All you have to do is ask yourself this question: Did Scholastic, Inc. make 4 consecutive mistakes (misprints as you call them) on the 4 initial cards of the 400 promo series?

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aliceinwunderland
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Re: Book Codes

Gilbo wrote:
Has anyone noticed that these cards end in X2 or XX?

Me!! I noticed!

Gilbo wrote:
I also wonder if the XX are virtual cards (where the numbers have been sent to people) and the X2 are physical cards (found in the books).

I hadn't made that connection... it sounds right, though.

Pilgrim2008 wrote:
I've gotten three: One in book and two book codes by mail. Both mail codes end in 'XX'. The Book is 'X2'.

Just finished reading all 48 forum pages. My head is spinning... ;p


Welcome Pilgrim! Thanks for the codes. Once your head stops spinning, do you have any theories you would like to share?

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wacaga
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Re: current list of virtual and physical cards

[quote="wacaga"][quote="TheRealPip"]
wacaga wrote:
#2 which unlocked #405 is a MISPRINT. The card should have been printed as 405-You're info doesn't indicate this. 400-403 are not misprints. Even you, writing "so this is a misprint I THINK" seem to have some doubts. Scholastic did this intentionally. They are not going to make 4 mistakes on the 1st 4 cards of their promotional series (COMMON SENSE). They made, if you will a "mini-puzzle" to search for the missing cards. Fooled me! So which is the misprint - the code which led you to the wrong 400 number or the # itself? Neither! This was done for us to scratch our head, have some fun, and smile when the puzzle is solved. "Call me crazy" No. "Frustrated"? like the rest of us? Yes. But 1 think for sure, 100%, we're ALL having fun.





I do not beleive that Scholastic made any sort of puzzle to search for "missing cards". This game is focused on children as young as 6. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You're wrong again. You're writing to a 7 & 8 yo. I'm their Mentor and expressing (through discussions) their thoughts. To them the "Missing Cards" are their biggest "puzzle" as they flew by everything so far. Whether you want to believe it or not my kids are more intrigued in the missing cards than anything in the game so far. In fact, they have spent over a month trying to solve this "puzzle".

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Tifi
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 Yippie

Ok, so I'm finally caught up with all the posts. It's amazing how far behind you can get it you haven't checked them in a week. Whew! I sent scholastic an email stating that my book didn't have any cards in it and got them to add them electronically for me. However, I don't know my camera card # so I can't share it.

I still haven't been able to unlock my first clue box. I've got 2 and 3 unlocked. I've sent emails and they just tell me there is a problem on their part of the website and they are trying to get it fixed. Has anyone else run into this problem. Smile Have a good night!

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Pilgrim2008
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Re: Book Codes

aliceinwunderland wrote:
Pilgrim2008 wrote:
I've gotten three: One in book and two book codes by mail. Both mail codes end in 'XX'. The Book is 'X2'.

Just finished reading all 48 forum pages. My head is spinning... ;p


Welcome Pilgrim! Thanks for the codes. Once your head stops spinning, do you have any theories you would like to share?


Like wacaga, I'm also a Math Teacher, semi-retired, now mentoring a couple of 5th Graders, and also having a 5th grade rather precocious niece. Thus, the 3 book codes. ;p

Someone speculated that a 'free' card is awarded when their Surviellance card number is shared. It seems to me that is true only for the 'X2' numbers and not the digital 'XX' versions, since (of the 3 accounts I'm monitoring) only the one which had shared the 'X2' number got a 'free' card. Can anyone else verify this?

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How photogenic is Dan?

Don't you love fiction Rolling Eyes

A couple of questions:

Philadelphia
Where do you think they got off the train? It wasn't downtown because they are on I-95 when they lose the Starlings. I think I have the correct location, but I need verification.

Paris
Pont Louis-Philippe (Bridge) connects the island to the north, not south as listed in the book. If they took the bridge the first time across, they would have to go on the island where Notre Dame Cathedral is and be pointed out as Amy shows Dan. They would also be adding time to their walk. On the map, I have them crossing it the second time to subtract time.

My question is:
1) How photogenic is Dan? Does he know where they are to the location of Nellie or do they have to go to the closest Metro to get directions?
2) Why didn't they take the Metro part way to the island?
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TheRealPip
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Re: Book Codes

Pilgrim2008 wrote:
Someone speculated that a 'free' card is awarded when their Surviellance card number is shared. It seems to me that is true only for the 'X2' numbers and not the digital 'XX' versions, since (of the 3 accounts I'm monitoring) only the one which had shared the 'X2' number got a 'free' card. Can anyone else verify this?



What card did you get? Meaning which card did you get as a free one? I am fairly sure there are a number of folks who have used my codes, but I haven't noticed any free card.

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katsmom
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Do you think he might mean the extra 6 cards you get when you enter your code for the first time?

But that can't be it either, because those show up when you register. Talking to myself. Sorry.

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i forgot to tell you my SC code its this :229p6k6xx2


and i dont find the point of figuring out which cards are dupes and all that stuff all we need to no is how many we are missing and get those cards i mean do you think little kids need to figure that crap out? i think theres no point
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a_soldiers_wife
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Free Cards

If you're not sure if you've received any free cards, take a look at your card count(the place that shows how many you have of each type of card) and then check your cards to see how it matches up. I don't think the free cards would be brand new ones, at least not every time but I am pretty sure that is what is meant by the message on the back of card #1. I will go check all my cards now and then post on here with the results. I am pretty sure when my surveillance camera was used the first time I passed it on I ended up with a virtual copy of card #50.

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katsmom
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I am fairly certain that my camera card code has been used once or twice, and I've gotten no free cards from it. The only extra cards I have are the 6 they gave me when I made the account (not the ones from the book), the surveillance cards for codes others have given me, and the promo cards.

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a_soldiers_wife
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Okay, I just got done checking all my cards. I might be totally off base with this idea but if so then what would be the explanation for what I found. Six times I found that the website said I had 2 cards of a certain type but when I checked my cards on hand, I only had 1 of each. And then there was one card that showed 4 online but I only had 3 on hand. I know that is only 7 cards and on a forum this big you'd think that it would be higher if I was correct but I see no other reason for it. The cards in question are: Young Grace; Annie Oakley; Heinrich Heinrichson; Ace of Spies; Marie Curie; Ophir Dupham; and Flying Ace. I am open to other possible explanations if you've got them.

I've already put my surveillance camera code on here but I'll put it up again and then check in a day or two to see if there are any more cards and post if I see any differences.

226XPPCCX2 - Please use if you haven't already, experiment in progress!

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ommmm
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Just stumbled on this:

Here is a page of photo credits from 39 Clues for all of the web pages and also the cards. It might be a way to verify what cards are supposed to be available at this time during the game:

http://www.the39clues.com/info/photo-credits

(sorry if this was posted before)

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