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[SPEC] A 450 mph monster
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Marauder2001
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Euchre wrote:
Bees can't fly.
The engineers just say it can't be so.
Cool


Old myth, bees, even bumblebees flight is easy to explain scientifically, their wings just work different from birdwings, unlike the original assumption. (Their wings create updraft both going up an down...basically)

Now, gravitation is one thing, but inertia is a whole different subject. Unless this monster has low mass the inertia of something that large moving at 100mph would be insane. It would have a lot of difficulty stopping or turning.

(gravity acts on weight, or rather creates weight, inertia act on mass. Mass and inertia are two different things, even when weightless you have mass, i.e. inertia.)

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:04 am
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 		Or maybe he isnt so fast. HE could have taken the SoL head and walked around with it, then he said to himself "O look, here is a good place to throw this thing..."

Voila.

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 		that is the other option.

I'd say Mr G.P. is moving about 50mph in the clip, at a very rough guess.

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Euchre
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Marauder2001 wrote:
Euchre wrote:
Bees can't fly.
The engineers just say it can't be so.
Cool


Old myth, bees, even bumblebees flight is easy to explain scientifically, their wings just work different from birdwings, unlike the original assumption. (Their wings create updraft both going up an down...basically)

Now, gravitation is one thing, but inertia is a whole different subject. Unless this monster has low mass the inertia of something that large moving at 100mph would be insane. It would have a lot of difficulty stopping or turning.

(gravity acts on weight, or rather creates weight, inertia act on mass. Mass and inertia are two different things, even when weightless you have mass, i.e. inertia.)

I know that the original story of 'bees can't fly' was a myth, and obviously it was incorrect anyway. It was born of the idea that as you mention, it doesn't work like a bird. As was fully known when the myth was created (as a joke btw) it lacked the wing area to maintain any glide slope. What was not fully known was that the wings of birds were airfoils, with the lift being generated by the shape of the wings as well as the slat action of the flapping. The myth often later referred to the lack of sufficient surface even when flapped to keep the bee's body aloft. Since modern high speed photography didn't exist, more effective study of the actual function of bee's wings wasn't possible. Of course, now we understand very well why and how it works.

The same could be true for what is suggested here, but after watching the 5 minute preview clip I've found something not accounted for.

There's a break in the footage from when the partygoers emerge from the apartment stoop and Hud turns to look down the street towards the Woolworth for the first time, and when we see Rob looking for Jason. This gives us back a few seconds. I am of the impression the head is not thrown from Liberty island anyway, but now we've got reason to believe it could be thrown from somewhere between the explosion and the Woolworth building. If you listen to the audio in the 5 minute clip, you can hear the head making a howl before it hits 401 Broadway - so until that building breaks it's momentum, that thing is really flying.
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