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[laneatomic]

Piecing together 3S Emails

[ThisProteanSoul]

Matching up poems

[mgelles]

Is this the proper thread to discuss what we think this all means or is? I'm fairly sure we're looking at one piece of popular fiction all in a mishmash. I have some more thoughts but don't want to ramble if such speculation is not what's intended for this thread.
Michelle

[ThisProteanSoul]

I don't know if it's the proper thread either, but I don't see anywhere better to do it, and we probably don't want to clutter the place unnecessarily. So I'd go ahead and I'm sure you'll be directed elsewhere if need be.

[mgelles]

okay. As i said many times before i'm not the best when it comes to ciphers and such but i tend to look for themes and patterns and such that way. The first question i'm grappling with. Are all of the e-mails from one coherent piece or narrative voice? i don't know for certain. If we are dealing with one voice it's one that changes drastically. There's first person narrative prose and first person poetry. if we are dealing with someone's descent into madness which is my first impression of all this, it is entirely possible that as this person loses further touch with realility. Interestingly enough the following was the top hit when I did a yahoo search for "Jack and Mr anachronism together [url] http://video.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?r=1&EAN=27616878144 [/url]. i don't know if there is a direct connection other than it dealt with the theme i'd picked up. The poem especially reminded me of sylvia plath whose 'the bell jar' deals with that topic. unfortunately the bell jar is not one of the works i've read so i could make no direct connection to that piece. While i was looking at plath stuff it also made references to hemmingway's 'for whom the bell tolls"

bu there's a problem with my man's descent into madness theory and that's the presence of an artificial intelligence i'm picking up on particularly in the repition of the "he creates the files for our thoughts' is it possible we're dealing with awakening AI or the merging of man and machine. i'm trying to determine if the strings of seemingly random words some passangers are the vestage impressions of a madman's mind or the jumbled impulses of a computer springing to life.

Thoughts on my rambling anyone
michelle

Wasn't sure whether to double post or not. This post is going to be huge. I don't know what others of you have sent 3S' way, but I just sent this

[anonymousloli]

[ThisProteanSoul]

I don't know.. the idea of one of the cards being something AI just doesn't sit right with me, and Jonah (2C) has spoken of personally knowing 3S. I think all of the cards are human, unless they're simething like the 3 of Hearts over christmas.. a symbol instead.

I don't even personally feel as though it is a decent into madness.. hey, maybe not even madness at all. Just because the chaos is not understood doesn't mean that it's insanity. ^_~

Not that I'm shooting down your ideas or anything, Michelle! Just putting out my own opinion.

I've sent 3S two or three of my own poems - viewable upon request. I never post my poetry on public sites purely for fear of thievery. I also sent poetry or excerpts of it of some of my favourite poems. 'Safe Sex' by Donald Hall. 'She Had Some Horses' by Joy Harjo. 'Lady Lazarus' by Sylvia Plath.

[mgelles]

I don't necessarily think that 3S is either ai or descending into madness. I was trying to identify themes of the snippets themselves several of which talk about losing touch with realitity. The jack character that comes up in several doesn't seem a particularly sane chap to me.

looking for Alice and wonderland connection, I'm at times reminded of Jaberwocky where sentence structure are correct but meanining is confused.

I'm just happy someone commented on my ramblings protean. you're quite free to disagree.

I'm curious if you sent 3S a plath poem because some of the snippets reminded you of her work as well or if you just randomly chose favorite pieces? In either cas Lady lazurus is a great piece

Michelle

[ThisProteanSoul]

It was entirely random. ^_^ I just figured that I would respond to poetry in kind with more poetry, so I chose some of my favourite works.

I do like the Jabberwocky comparison, I could see some sense with that. If he had started making up words, it would've cinched it.