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JonnyFandango
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 		Have we finally found it?
The cloverfield monster...
So I've been following this whole controversy about the identity of the Cloverfield Monster... also known as 'Mr. Grumpypants' or MGP... for a week or 2 now. I've checked out all the Slusho and related 'official' type sites... read all the stuff here .. and other forums. I've occasionally checked YouTube for slowdowns/hi-res/motion corrected versions of the trailers and brief shots of MGP that we've gotten.

Tonight I found this:
http://i5.tinypic.com/6lizqyw.jpg
Which I believe was posted here on unfiction by a 1 post user.. and I'm not sure if there ever was anything posted after to confirm or deny if this is real.

Then I came across this slowdown/hi-res/motion corrected version of the glimpse we get of MGP in the recent trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QObL7ZxB9_A&feature=related

After watching the Vid, I attempted to draw out what I THOUGHT I saw into paint... What I THINK I see is a forward facing (human style) pair of knees, with some sort of elbow or arm coming out of the area just above the knee, along with a larger more proportioned elbow and arm. Aboive that I thought I saw a backwards (or upwards) 3rd set of something similar to an elbow and arm. When I compared my drawing to the first picture I linked above... they were nearly an EXACT match!

Try it yourself! Watch the vid, draw what you think you saw and then compare. Does it match up or at the least look similar to the picture? What do you guys think?

~Jonny

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Mystlyfe
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 		The image, posted in this thread (http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=22813), is actually a gamejack. The monster pictured is Bugbuzun blade, from Ultraman. Towards the end of the thread, youtube videos are posted of Bugbuzun.

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JonnyFandango
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Mystlyfe wrote:
The image, posted in this thread (http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=22813), is actually a gamejack. The monster pictured is Bugbuzun blade, from Ultraman. Towards the end of the thread, youtube videos are posted of Bugbuzun.


So is the vid bogus? If not, the point I guess I'm trying to make is still valid. Assuming that the slowmotion video I linked is a legit video, the outline of the lower half of MGP that it shows is remarkably similar to Bugzy then.

Thanks for the quick reply.
~j

edit: I was confident that the design of the creature in the picture was from Ultraman, or at least darn close to em. I remember playing that way back on the snes! Wink

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JonnyFandango wrote:
Mystlyfe wrote:
The image, posted in this thread (http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=22813), is actually a gamejack. The monster pictured is Bugbuzun blade, from Ultraman. Towards the end of the thread, youtube videos are posted of Bugbuzun.


So is the vid bogus? If not, the point I guess I'm trying to make is still valid. Assuming that the slowmotion video I linked is a legit video, the outline of the lower half of MGP that it shows is remarkably similar to Bugzy then.

Thanks for the quick reply.
~j

edit: I was confident that the design of the creature in the picture was from Ultraman, or at least darn close to em. I remember playing that way back on the snes! Wink


with less then 1 month to go, don't trust any of the first time posters...so far they have all been trolls or gamejacks

and hat vid is legit (why do i even have to say that?) its taken from the official trailer...

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JonnyFandango
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Colt wrote:

with less then 1 month to go, don't trust any of the first time posters...so far they have all been trolls or gamejacks

and hat vid is legit (why do i even have to say that?) its taken from the official trailer...


I'd imagine it would not be unreasonable for someone to film some sort of figure, hack out the moving MGP part in between those 2 buildings, swap it out, throw some visual noise over it, and poof you have a non legit that looks passable. The actual glimpse we get of things is SO brief, I would not at all be suprised to see something faked out there.

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 		I tried just what you described a bit ago and came up with the following:

Itsumo wrote:
After watching these clips enough times to make myself ill:

http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/11/20/cloverfield-monster-in-slow-mo/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLs9MDdz_dg

I decided to take a stab at what I think I'm seeing (appologies in advance for having no airbrush talent heheh):



I think you've got a monster with armor plates or very folded skin. I think you've got thorns/flippers/claws along it's body, possibly used for ambulation, or in conjunction with it. If you watch the video closely and try to pick out debris from those thorny/flippery things, they move up/down as it moves forward. It also seems to be elongated.

But there seems to be some protruberance up top, possibly coming back off the head, in the darker video clip (first) you can see some sort of claw/flipper up front, and in the lighter clip you can make out some sort of thorn/claw/spike coming out of the back as it goes by, as well in the middle you can see one of them extend downward through debris.

Meh so maybe there's something to the crustacean angle after all? Then again it's really hard to sort out beast from debris (probably the point eh?)

I don't see any humanoid legs in the videos at all, and it looks like a black triangluar flipper/claw is moving as a leg would.

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JonnyFandango
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 		Just watching the 2 videos that you used to draw that, I totally agree with your interpretation. I thought nearly the EXACT same thing of MGP, until I saw the video that I link to in my first post.

Watch that video I included a few times and see if your opinion changes.

Here's where I'm seeing the humanoid legs: in seconds 1-3 of the video I linked you.. watch from the bottom left moving towards the right side of the screen. You will see what I believe to be the 'kneecap' moving from a downward facing left side of screen, rotating upwards and fowards(right side of the screen). Once you look at things with THOSE eyes, you will clearly see another knee and leg in the background shaped like a ' 7 ' with the top right of the 7 being the kneecap.

Now that I'm looking at all 3 videos (the 2 you mentioned and the 1 I mention) in your vids, I can see what I believe to be there, although both videos are generally not quite as clear as the video I linked. In the video I linked, I think the background Knee/leg is unmistakeable when you take a solid look.

Cheers,
~j

Edit: P.s. awesome drawing! Smile

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JonnyFandango wrote:
...although both videos are generally not quite as clear as the video I linked


I dunno, the one you linked just seems to go blurry to me. I do think there's a problem with my drawing though, I suspect the body line arcs up again rather than down. In the first video I linked I think I see another "leg claw" just clearing the building at the end.

I really need to get the frames from the HD version, lay em out, and put some ink to paper.

I'd lay money on the black triangular shapes in the clip being some sort of claw legs.

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JonnyFandango
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 		I'm horrible @ Posting pics and the such, but let's see if this works. Keep in mind that this is made off of JUST the vid that I posted above. See if you can kinda see where I'm seeing this.



Edit: Keep in mind I'm just talking about the lower half of things at the moment, there's obviously more going on up top too.

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Itsumo wrote:

I dunno, the one you linked just seems to go blurry to me. I do think there's a problem with my drawing though, I suspect the body line arcs up again rather than down. In the first video I linked I think I see another "leg claw" just clearing the building at the end.

I really need to get the frames from the HD version, lay em out, and put some ink to paper.

I'd lay money on the black triangular shapes in the clip being some sort of claw legs.


Like I said before, I WAS totally with ya n the triangles, until I realized I was looking at the wrong thing. Watch your youtube vid again. (I just watched, looking for the legs.) At the start of the vid, look for the black triangles you see, but look at them as the background, look at the white surrounding them as the foreground. Look at the top right as the knee, the part below the top right as the leg, and the top part right behind the knee as the upper leg. Then as you watch, you'll see the right leg sweep in from the lower side, knee first, and move as i described before. flipping back to my drawing while you watch it a couple times. See if you can at least see where I'm coming from.

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JonnyFandango wrote:
Colt wrote:

with less then 1 month to go, don't trust any of the first time posters...so far they have all been trolls or gamejacks

and hat vid is legit (why do i even have to say that?) its taken from the official trailer...


I'd imagine it would not be unreasonable for someone to film some sort of figure, hack out the moving MGP part in between those 2 buildings, swap it out, throw some visual noise over it, and poof you have a non legit that looks passable. The actual glimpse we get of things is SO brief, I would not at all be suprised to see something faked out there.


please, go watch the official trailer... or are you basing everything on what you read?

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JonnyFandango
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 		Here's a more technical reason to look at the 'black triangles' we're talking about as the background and not the foreground (spikes/etc). Look a the lightsource that is shining on the lighter colored areas around the triangles. The source of light is somewhere off screen down and to the right... it can't be the light that's WAY in the forground on the left.. It Has to be there off screen on the bottom right because it gets darker as you go up, especially towards the left. As MGP moves almost out of frame on the right, you'll see that things on the right get extra highlights.. just a little more detail to show what is foreground and what is background.

~j

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Colt wrote:

please, go watch the official trailer... or are you basing everything on what you read?


I've seen every trailer that is out as of today. I'm basing things off of what i've read from forums like these, the slusho type sites, the wiki's i've read, and watching closely any video that is out there.

If you're suggesting that people wouldn't take time to make a fake that looks semi real.. maybe you haven't seen the youtube vid where they cut in the staypuff marshmallow man... it actually doesnt look half bad. lol!

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 		Through my eyes, in the new 5-minute clip, you can clearly see that this monstrosity has some very awkward jointed appendages, rather than the straight-on knees we keep picturing.

Not to mention, Bugbuzun is extremely cheesy.

'$.02'....

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 		Here's the best I can do for now:


If I cross my eyes I think I can see what he's saying about seeing the black areas as empty space. On the other hand I'm still kind of seeing them as claws. I'd think you'd see debris moving in the dark areas behind the creature. and if those are legs with the dark spaces empty space, Then the first set ahead of triangle 2, are smaller than the ones behind them, between triangle 2 and 3.

I'm starting to get more and more in the camp of crustacean, but I still don't buy bugzen, and I still think I'm seeing clawlegs, especially after watching clip 2 again, but I will have to stare at it more.

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