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Sturnteer · Boot Joined: 08 Sep 2007 Posts: 37

[PRESS] [SPOILERS?]Empire Reveals Cloverfield Mysteries

**Posted:** Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:05 pm

rocksmars · Unfettered Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 305

"(it's a 9/11 monster movie, don'cha know)."

Oh God! I was right! This is going to be so lame if true.

It's just a liberal pseudo intellectual rant.

Tagruato (Big bad corporations) in pursuit of oil creates a monster (Al Qeada).

The monster attacks our biggest city and our liberty (literally the SOL) in retaliation.
Scenes of 911... shaky camera, building falling, running into stores, trying to find people and trying to evacuate.

The monster reeks havoc then leaves to not be seen again but produces little monsters (fear mongering politicians) who infect people which produce more little monsters or destroys them. What is the monster in Cloverfield really?

Fear.

"I don't know what we saw, but it's still here!"

"Whatever it is, it's winning"

Haven't seen it...don't know what it is...but be afraid.
Sounds a lot like what liberals think the War on Terror is.

Regardless of where you are on the political spectrum if this is what the intent of the movie is then it stinks. I just hope it isn't too blatant in the film and it can still be enjoyed as a monster film.

**Posted:** Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:42 pm

fleabit · Veteran Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 125

Man.. you people put too much thought into this stuff. It's a monster flick. Buildings falling is scary, that's the purpose. If you wanted to make a politcal statement about the Middle East, you wouldn't need to do so in a such a convulated manner. If he really wanted to make a statement he could *gasp*.. make a documentary instead?

Why does there have to be a deeper meaning behind everything? Everyone tried to convince Tolkien he was writing about the war in his book, even though he repeatedly said it was just a fantasy novel, nothing more. JJ said he saw monsters in Japan, and thought "hey, I wanna do a monster movie, and have an American monster!" But because everyone apparently has to have an agenda, media proclaims it's a 9/11 movie, and everyone buys it.

Like smoke-monsters people think they see, movies are often blown out of proportion in just the same way.

**Posted:** Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:49 pm

rocksmars · Unfettered Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 305

**Posted:** Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:54 pm

Melodyman

**Posted:** Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:56 pm

madamimadam · Unfettered Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 326

crap, I thought you actually had spoilers.. *mutters*

the NIN ARG had all kinds of political commentary through it, so I don't know why cloverfield can't (although I personally think it's not for that purpose).

**Posted:** Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:57 pm

Itsumo · Veteran Joined: 22 Dec 2007 Posts: 93

For my part, I hope that's just your standard pundit taking the scenes with falling buildings and dust and making a September 11th connection in his own mind, spinning it out with all his Hipness.

When movies go political, they tend to automatically alienate a portion of the audience (or at least annoy, I found the Lucas anti-Iraq quips thrown in the last StarWars movie to be distracting and annoying).

I never got the sense that JJ was an activist, just a good storyteller.

**Posted:** Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:04 pm

Cthulhu

Anyways, is it possible for someone on the other side of the Atlantic to purchase this magazine, and release it's contents to us, please?

**Posted:** Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:05 pm

Eddy · Decorated Joined: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 194

@rocksmars

Take it from a liberal--not everything is about your war on terror. Sorry to disappoint. And since we're taking the time to state the obvious, I might as well add that the monster as metaphor for climate change is well established and well supported. This is thanks in large part to the back-story unfolding online. If that knowledge spoils it for you, I'd suggest you back away from the computer now, and instead just wait for the movie to come out. Ignorance is bliss.

**Posted:** Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:30 pm

Random_kid

ehhh not so sure on the climate change thing Eddy
they took it off the new preview...
so i think its more about a giant monster that attacks NYC
but it taps into those 9/11 fears because in essence its the same thing...
were being attacked

**Posted:** Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:34 pm

Fignut the Elder · Unfettered Joined: 30 Jul 2007 Posts: 330

**Posted:** Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:42 pm

rocksmars · Unfettered Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 305

**Posted:** Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:43 pm

Eddy · Decorated Joined: 05 Sep 2007 Posts: 194

@Random_kid

By my reckoning NY destruction is the one thing Cloverfield has in common with 9/11. On the other hand, 1. ruthless oil company (Tagruato), 2. environmental activists (Tidowave), 3. valuable natural resource (seabed nectar) begets monster (i.e. fossil fuels beget CO2), 4. and why NY other than if you're going to destroy an American city with an American monster for effect the choice is obvious, why indeed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xopoWF98y4

I could go on, but I'll wait to see if you can catch up.

**Posted:** Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:56 pm

Random_kid

youre right! didnt think about all of those things
i thought you were just refering to the temp thing that was on the news
in the first trailer

**Posted:** Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:04 pm

rocksmars · Unfettered Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 305

I don't really see how climate change relates to a monster. Hot air isn't going to knock down any buildings.

What you are describing sounds more like an episode of South Park.

Laughing

**Posted:** Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:24 pm