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[News] Story on Fox News (Neil Cavuto) [News]
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I just drafted this letter up for our good friend Mr. Cavuto. I'm going to work on the letters to Mr. O'Reilly and to Fox in general soon. Any problems with this letter (call this a beta read)?

Dear Mr. Cavuto,

On January the 2nd, your show, "Your World", ran a story on the upcoming film Cloverfield, and how it - purportedly - deliberately exploits and capitalizes on the events of 9/11. As an passionate film-goer and as someone who has been avidly following this film since the first, anonymous trailer was run in front of Transformers last year, I was, for want of a better word, disgusted by the utter lack of journalistic objectivity of the piece. The fact that you felt that this was 'important news', when the parallels to 9/11 are ambiguous and viewer-dependent as it is, and the added fact that you decided to play the emotional card by bringing in the mother of a man killed in the 9/11 attacks shows just how little regard for correct journalistic processes your show seemed to have in their approach towards that film.

I understand that Mrs. Hoagland has been through a terrible ordeal in losing her son in 9/11, and, as someone who did not lose someone in the attacks, I cannot pretend to understand the extent of her grief. However, it has been nearly 7 years since the 9/11 attacks, and it is ludicrous that the public should be deprived of basic entertainment because a group of people feel said entertainment draws dubious parallels to 9/11. Cloverfield is, and always has been, a monster movie aiming for realism, and the fact that your show feels that a monster decapitating the Statue of Liberty and smashing through buildings in Manhattan draws irrefutable parallels to terrorists driving planes into the World Trade Centre shows a profound lack of judgement. The fact that you then irresponsibly aired these biased and near-baseless accusations for a wide audience shows a complete lack of journalistic integrity on your and your show's behalf. This is reinforced by the fact that your guest, Mrs. Hoagland, seemed intent on making us all continuously remember and relive the pain and horror of 9/11 rather than move on from the attacks, by saying (and I paraphrase here) that films should not be made about destruction in New York unless they deliberately and blatantly evoke images of the 9/11 attacks through their depicting Al Qaeda in the film.

Also interestingly, you choose in your story to also ignore films that more directly invoke images of the 9/11 attacks, such as United 93, World Trade Centre, the Fox television film Flight 93, and recent blockbuster I Am Legend (in which the Brooklyn Bridge is deliberately bombed). It must also be noted that these posters have been displayed in numerous countries for several months, and your timing seems unnecessarily deliberate in terms of drawing bad press for the film (which, may I note, has just been announced as going up against 20th Century Fox film 27 Dresses in the box office on the week of 1-18-08 - and 20th Century Fox is a sister company of Fox News, if I am not mistaken). Your piece severely lacks journalistic integrity, not only in a complete lack of knowledge as to what Cloverfield was depicting, but also in regards to your sensationalist, irresponsible editorializing of the matter in evoking dubious images of 9/11.

Cloverfield is a monster movie, not some thinly-veiled 9/11 parable. Any amount of research would show that any evoking of images of 9/11 is purely accidental and up to the viewer's interpretation.

Yours sincerely,

Adam Goodall.


Very nicely done. This may make Cavuto's show tomorrow (he reads some e-mails at the end of each show) but it may be too long.

One question, did I miss something, why are you sending an e-mail to Bill O'Reilly? Was there some mention of "Cloverfield" on his program? I'm no O'Reilly fan, but I'm not understanding why you would send him an e-mail if he's not involved in any of this?

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 		because everyone just hates him

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Chump Force 1 wrote:

Very nicely done. This may make Cavuto's show tomorrow (he reads some e-mails at the end of each show) but it may be too long.

One question, did I miss something, why are you sending an e-mail to Bill O'Reilly? Was there some mention of "Cloverfield" on his program? I'm no O'Reilly fan, but I'm not understanding why you would send him an e-mail if he's not involved in any of this?


Because Bill O'Reilly's FUN.

In essence, I just wanna wind him up.

Thanks for the feedback, everyone. Much appreciated. I've sent it to Cavuto now.

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 		Yes, stupid republicans damn them all and their attempts to gain world domination by discrediting Cloverfield!

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Seriously guys, stop blaiming Neil, he seemed as skeptical about the 9/11 angle as we are.
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Varan wrote:
Yes, stupid republicans damn them all and their attempts to gain world domination by discrediting Cloverfield!

Glory to Obama! All hail the SWARM!

Very Happy

Seriously guys, stop blaiming Neil, he seemed as skeptical about the 9/11 angle as we are.


Neil supporter,
Grab the cloverfield monster(s), kill it!

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 		Neil is a nutjob but the letter was quite nice. Should get his attention. As far as Bill goes...if he ever calls me a pinhead I can die a happy little blonde girl!

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Xius wrote:
Varan wrote:
Yes, stupid republicans damn them all and their attempts to gain world domination by discrediting Cloverfield!

Glory to Obama! All hail the SWARM!

Very Happy

Seriously guys, stop blaiming Neil, he seemed as skeptical about the 9/11 angle as we are.


Neil supporter,
Grab the cloverfield monster(s), kill it!


I actually know little about him, but some people automatically assumed this was some kind of Right Wing conspiracy…
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Varan wrote:
I actually know little about him, but some people automaticlly assumed this was some kind of Right Wing conspiracy…


To some "folk" everything is a vast right-wing conspiracy. Wink

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Schmootika wrote:
Varan wrote:
I actually know little about him, but some people automaticlly assumed this was some kind of Right Wing conspiracy…


To some "folk" everything is a vast right-wing conspiracy. Wink


No, Fox News is just a right-wing conspiracy. Laughing

Look, there's only two reasons that would've been on his show - those higher up forced it on him, or he sold it to them. Seeing as Mr. Cavuto is the face of that show, he was probably responsible in some way (that "what if it's just a monster film" question sounded like it was just there to make him sound 'fair and balanced') and should be held responsible.

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 		Go get 'em Bacon! I look forward to seeing if it makes the emails read on air tomorrow. Y

ou do have a point...the higher ups in the network may have told him he's going to do a bit on this "monster movie". Corporations do as they please and their minions most of the time just follow orders.

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 		nice email.

the fox movies that come out as you listed made it even better Laughing

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 		I love Bill O'Reily. Hes so funny to watch.

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1-18-08Truth.com wrote:
I love Bill O'Reily. Hes so funny to watch.
Yeah because he's a dumbass. Very Happy

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 		who iz dis bill riley guy?

iz he in da movie cloverfild?

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