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[UPDATE] Tagruato Headlines Update
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dazed118
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Could ParaFun paraffin be used to encase the seabed nectar in packets? Kind of like those wax soda bottles filled with liquid candy you used to buy? The ParaFun failed to encase the nectar or maybe it's made with a refuse product from the distilling of the nectar?

(I've been at work half and hour and I've had 2 cups of coffee and I'm working my way through a pot of green tea. I think the caffine may have addled my brain a bit.)

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Could be, good thinking, but before we launch into that again, I'm sure it's been discussed in another thread somewhere else. I don't think anyone came up with something definitive (big surprise in this ARG/ARE/viral marketing/whatever). I'll take a look....
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imnutty
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Im thinking the ChimpanIII Satelite is deffiantely related to the Monkey in the slusho ad which brings us to the flag and the cheese again. Mayb the flag is something like putting a flag on the moon and claming territory idk

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mousekinn
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At the risk of being laughed off the boards Smile

What if the nectar itself is an egg/eggs of a long dead organism (or even a living one, that's small and somewhat unobtrusive), but the falling of the satellite/alien thing/whatever has caused the eggs to go into hyper mutation or (in the case of an extinct creature) grow again?

Then it's not so much an alien as a mutation.

A very, very grumpy mutation.

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DougBThree
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If the object that fell into the Atlantic was in fact extraterrestrial, how would an oil company know that such an object was inbound to the earth? In the press release on the original launch of the satellite, we learn that Ganu was very anxious to get this satellite launched. There was bad weather on the launch day, but Ganu basically overrode what would have been a decision to scrub the launch, and had them launch anyway. For some reason, he felt it was very urgent to get this thing up in orbit.

Well, if it was because he knew they needed it to track this incoming object, how would they have known the object was coming in the first place? Since Bold Futura is a defense supplier, I assume the Japanese government is somehow involved, and may have been the ones who first noticed the object, and they perhaps contracted with Bold Futura to track and eventually recover the object.

It is far-fetched, though, to assume that a substantial size object heading for earth and eventually entering its atmosphere would not be seen by every astronomer on the planet. But then, we only see the IG world through the eyes of the websites and related information we have to work with. Maybe if we could read IG newspapers there would be stories about an object entering the atmosphere, and for most people a press release talking about it being a piece of fallen space junk from a Japanese satellite would be enough to put it to rest.

I think we need another message from the Whistleblower to help clarify all this. He should be able to give us a better idea of the fate of Chuai Station, and hopefully a clue regarding the fallen object. TIDOWave might chime in, too, but I don't think they'd be able to give us the insider perspective that the Whistleblower could.

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dazed118
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plausible.

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Lupinicus
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Actually, it's not so likely that such an object would be well known. From wikipedia:
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NEO near misses

March 18, 2004 saw a very close recorded approach of a near-Earth object (NEO). Asteroid 2004 FH, about 30 meters (100 feet) in diameter, passed approximately 43,000 kilometers (26,500 miles) above the Earth's surface (one-tenth of the distance to the Moon). Astronomers had detected it just three days before. While the time from detection to nearest approach may seem short, Asteroid 2004 FH is extremely small. A NEO with globally cataclysmic potential would have a better chance of being discovered earlier.

Only two weeks later on March 31, 2004, meteoroid 2004 FU162 set a new record for closest recorded approach, passing Earth only 6,500 km (4,000 miles) away (nearly one-sixtieth of the distance to the Moon). Because it was very small (6 meters/20 feet), FU162 was detected only hours before its closest approach. If it had collided with Earth, it probably would have harmlessly disintegrated in the atmosphere.


The falling object would have to be something fairly small like this (this is a monster movie, not a disaster movie right?) so it would not necessarily be detected all over the world. Also, while I'm sure the above instances back in 2004 did appear in the news, I'm pretty sure they were not frontpage headlines.

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avpruler
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I can't recall who said it, but I remember yesterday someone said the sonar image looked like a satellite.

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rocksmars
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If there is a satellite involved in getting these images then they must be a composite with information from something Earth based or it wouldn't be sonar. Sonar uses sound waves and unless the satellite is in some really low orbit sound waves aren't getting to it in space.

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avpruler
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i meant maybe its the crashed Hutsui fragment, everyone knows sound is non-existant in space(for some reason my 17 yr old brother says its just a lil muffled) Rolling Eyes

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Red_Daze
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Couple things:

1. Awsomest update with this stuff Smile

2. I put out there that while there MAY have been an underwater component to the Chuai station there was (with 100% certainty) an above water station if you look at the time line you'll see.

- That Teddy packaged and shipped the hat, sample, and tape to Jamie and then continued to have phone conversations and txt messages before disappearing. I know of zero phones that get signal under a couple hundred or thousand feet of water.

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Her
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I'm in on the underwater theory. And the big sub theory. The sonar could be (as stated before) an image of the underwater station or satellite or sub. But I don't think it's the monster. I feel that he will show up on the 17th or 18th as somthing hugh in the water. Remember the army guys are there almost immediately; they had to know ahead of everyone else that something is there.

I also think MGP hitched a ride on the fallen satellite, or he is the thing that fell from space and it's not a satellite at all. Possible embedded in the ocean dormant until Tagruato goes poking around there.

Chuai was absolutely a front for locating the object that fell from space.

And someone was on the Chuai station and got messages and primary evidence out. I feel that Teddy would have told someone at T.I.D.O. where the station was located. And if it was above ground or under the water.

Tagruato is starting to sound like the Unbrella Corporation.

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There is no evidence, anywhere, of anyone ever being PHYSICALLY on Chuai.

The only communications we have regarding it, from the WB:

- The original torn memos from Tagruato make reference to Chuai, but that could be part of the cover-up as well to make other employees in the organization continue to believe Chuai exists. If Tag is using it to funnel money, it especially has to keep it secret.

- "Chuai holds a dark secret". Like, let's say... not existing in the first place?

- "People have gone missing" could mean anything. There is no evidence that these people ever even made it to Chuai. The Tag website mentiones 340+ employees at the facility, but nobody knows any of them? I think that number is something just to pad payroll and up the apparent expense.

- The 3rd quarter drilling results don't list Chuai at all. One thing is to list it with zeroes; another thing is to not acknowledge its existance. WB's comment of "there's no oil there" is because he assumes it's there, but not drilling.

I think the WB is landside, not on a platform, and is making the assumption that something is up with Chuai, but he assumes that Chuai is there, but not doing what it's supposed to. He senses something fishy, but isn't sure what.

If Chuai was there and destroyed, why would Tagruato hide it from the beginning?

Also, do note one thing: by all accounts, Chuai must be a HUGE platform. Also, it must be a major engineering accomplishment. Why no photos? I'd be proud to show off the progress on the assembly of the facility, especially to potential investors.

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imnutty
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They did not know it was there....
THey said they were gonna build Chuai how long ago
Then in the news thing from tag it says

"According to Hatsui data, it disappeared into the Atlantic Ocean late last week."

late last WEEK they dident no it was there

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There's no photos of chuii because it would be too much trouble to create, in my opionon.


Here's what I see the two sides saying.

Activists:

Chuai holds a dark secret,
One of their stations has found something or created something.
Chuai is not drilling for oil.
Tagruato is killing our oceans.


Tagruato:

Drilling for oil.
Chuai holds 300+ people.
Chuai involved with eco terror incident.
Satellite is geostationary and capable of tracking objects in the Atlantic ocean.
(it says nothing about tracking it falling through outer space)

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