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Ryuzaki
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"Air sacs just below the blowhole allow whales to produce sounds for communication and (for those species capable of it) echolocation. These air sacs are filled with air, which is then released again to produce sound in a similar fashion to releasing air from a balloon." (Wikipedia=Blowhole (Biology)

Man this thread exploded. Well....some 40+ pages ago I was reminded of a whale blowhole by that airborn debri scene. Anyway, I looked into them a little. This caught my attention because of MGP's roar right before the debri spouts up into the air. Anyway I'm sure there are some more interesting reads out there. Right now this seems more plausible to me then boyancy shooting them up like that.

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starshiptrooper wrote:
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So we can all agree that there IS a dark shape under the surface, AND seeing that there is no oil at the Chuai, that it isn't an oil spill. My theory is that it is, in fact, the monster, aka MGP, pulling down the platform. MGP is then also the one who shoots out the debris in a fit of rage due to the rig hitting him. There, thats my 2 cents.


There's no debate over that it's MGP under the station. And there are "anomalies" (dark spots) in the water. And with the roar, there's no doubt that it's the monster throwing debris at the boat.

The debate is over the fact that some claim to see the monster swimming away (Don'y know how he could swim away, then throw the debris up from the very spot the station went down) and some see tentacles.

No doubt the monster did it.


This has to do with that black mass that moves away from the collapsing station doesn't it? I don't think it's the monster swimming away, but it is the monster.

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blaaaaaah wrote:
crow wrote:
instead of just cluttering up this thread with the It's a tentacle/not a tentacle thing
just post here

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23228

there Im sure you can talk about your tentacles all you want.

and blaaaah the question isnt does it have tentacles or not, the fact is we cant tell for sure it if does.
so please stop flooding the thread with this argument it's lame and gets us no where.


Right. So.. let me get this straight. It's NOT OKAY to post ideas, theories, and evidence that perhaps the clips at hand show the monster.

Am I right so far? Yeah? Okay.

But it IS OKAY to have twenty people post "Hey, we saw Ganu Yoshida in the back of those clips". When in fact we have no proof of that being Ganu Yoshida.


Maybe I should start a "is it or isn't it Ganu Yoshida!??!?" thread.


Oops! I started the Ganu Yoshida thing. Very Happy Guilty as charged, your honor. I throw myself at the mercy of the court.

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JimiJons wrote:
Cole wrote:
......there's 70 pages of blabber......70...pages.....wow...


And we haven't produced a single substantiated conclusion. This sucks.

So far as I see it: MGP attacked the station, caused it to collapse, and baffled scientists and engineers.

Armed men on the platform were shooting into the water in all directions, obviously at MGP. (Hinting at Tagruato's private army, stationed their because of the obvious security risk of having MGP?)

Armed men in black overalls and ski masks wearing Tagruato symbols on their left arm-sleeves were apparently either assisting in the evacuation, or attempting to clean up the mess. (Another hint at Tagruato's private army)

1 single boat is seen escaping from the rig. (Only 1, apparently not in the direction of the black blob, which is eventually downed...)

The helicopter that obtained the primary footage, contained an apparent associate of Tagruato, handcuffed to a suitcase, also apparently giving orders to the cameraman. (Could be anyone at this point, all we know is that he is probably important and a part of Tagruato. Hell, the footage could even have been staged, or the destruction of Chuai was intentional)

Massive debris was ejected from the water at high velocities (cause unknown), one of which landed on top of the only (apparent) escaping boat, presumably killing all on board.

Origin of videos is unknown. Original senders are unknown. Clues (of which none have been solved or determined accurate) abundant in likely all of the videos, especially in the French interview. (Possible references to Janice, her son, the pictures, whatnot.)

Lets stop arguing over whether we see the monster or not. That's irrelevant now because we know MGP obviously attacked, and that's all the proof we need on that. We need to get crackin on the important stuff. Hidden messages, symbols, anything that might correspond with anything we've seen or been told before, anything that might relate with the Whistle Blower or his messages, anything that might point out the "Janice" references from TIDO, infact-anything that has to do with TIDO, and whatever other subtle clues hidden within this surprising revelation. I'll help.

EDIT: This thread (to me at least) is not a thread for theories, it's a thread for investigation.


Excellent summary! While we should continue to look for clues, I can't help but think of all the times in this game/experience where there were no clues in the video/picture/website and it was just a video/picture/website used to explain some part of this backstory. Call me cynical, but I think the point of all of these videos is to show us what happened to Chuai and that the monster is somewhat near New York.

One thing that I am interested in getting clarity on is the part of the Japanese news report with the picture of the tanker and the distress call. On the previous page, someone posted a transcript and said the distress call was from Chuai Station. I was initially under the impression that the call was from that tanker. If the call was from the station, why was the tanker picture shown? To whoever did the translation, is the distress call definitely from Chuai station and not the tanker?

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We only saw one boat leaving the station from the aerial surveillance. They've found no survivors as of yet. Clearly, IMHO, the evidence points out conclusively that only one boat escaped. Unless you see otherwise in the videos, i'm sticking to what I have.


I may be missing something but we dont see any boats leaving, only what some speculate are boats.

Secondly, It is my belief that at the time of the destruction people had already evacuated.

Of course I could be plain wrong.

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I may as well point out that I think that there are several boats which escaped, there is no reason to believe that there is only one.

They say several people were missing? Possibly those are those on the boat that was filmed?


I'm with you there. It was mentioned 300 pages ago that the escape boats on Sea Platforms resemble submarines, and small outboard powered boats are generaly no allowed near them.

Someone way back then (Last night) posted the theory that the videos inside the station are an hour or so before the videos from the outside. MGP may have "nuzzled" the station, causing the initial disturbance and causing an evacuation. The small open boat may have been a team sent in to observe the platform from sea level, with the helicopter monitoring from above.

The guy with the briefcase, and the other people on the copter may have evacuated earlier, Mr. Briefcase cleaned out the "classified document" safe and they were watching from above. The missing people listed by Tag may be the people in the boat.
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Magus00 wrote:
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This debate could go round forever.

Starship, I'm with you. I see no tentacles. Only water movement, but our beloved monster must have multiple appendages to fling things up the way he/she/it does. There's 11 days left, or less if you're going to a screening, so we will see soon enough.


I'd say that from the power and trajectory of the flying objects, they aren't being thrown through water or tossed by a tentacle. Just not very likely.

I'm thinking there are definitely multiple blowholes ejecting the debris. In through the mouth and out through the blowholes. I'm looking up info on whale blowholes right now.


This is possible. However, I have a hard time believing that this thing is going to shoot massive girders out of its noses. Unless these blowholes are freaking huge (not unlike the common lion, j/k) I don't think these girders would fit.



There really isn't any better explanation for the projectiles. We are talking about a huge freakin animal. 15 feet across isn't so big by size comparison. No way we can prove this at this point, but I think it lends credence to the idea that MGP has some whale-mut attributes.

...and if you think about it, that's a pretty cool monster superpower. Scary and visual.

* and hey....it was either looking up porn or whale blowholes. A geek has to have priorities.

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W-Three wrote:

I may be missing something but we dont see any boats leaving, only what some speculate are boats.

Secondly, It is my belief that at the time of the destruction people had already evacuated.

Of course I could be plain wrong.


The reporter said over 300 where missing, so i presume that they did not get off.

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 		That boat seemed to be crushed by a huge falling object, but the footage was recovered somehow, If it wasn't for the helicopter footage, I'd think tidowave had recovered it, and lied about finding nothing in their blog.

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The reporter said over 300 where missing, so i presume that they did not get off.


Missing, not dead. Of course, there isnt really much evidence for anything concrete.

Edit: Crap, im afraid to leave my computer. Otherwise ill come back and there will be another 20 pages.

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That boat seemed to be crushed by a huge falling object, but the footage was recovered somehow, If it wasn't for the helicopter footage, I'd think tidowave had recovered it, and lied about finding nothing in their blog.


i think its just a flaw in the story, which often happens in movies. Remember this isnt real...

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 		Off topic, we wrote 73 pages in 2 days. Compare to the Myspace thread: 73 pages in 2.5 months. Yeah.

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blee02 wrote:
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That boat seemed to be crushed by a huge falling object, but the footage was recovered somehow, If it wasn't for the helicopter footage, I'd think tidowave had recovered it, and lied about finding nothing in their blog.


i think its just a flaw in the story, which often happens in movies. Remember this isnt real...


Yeah, in the real world, you wouldn't be able to pick up a cell phone floating in the ocean and recover video from it.

Plus, I don't think the guy filming had time to select "Stop" and "save" before the girder hits the boat.

But this is the movies, where giant critters can stomp scyscrapers, and girls can explode!
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blee02 wrote:
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That boat seemed to be crushed by a huge falling object, but the footage was recovered somehow, If it wasn't for the helicopter footage, I'd think tidowave had recovered it, and lied about finding nothing in their blog.


i think its just a flaw in the story, which often happens in movies. Remember this isnt real...


I know Very Happy Anyway, the helicopter could have tried to rescue the guys, and got the footage that way.

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 		NO CLUES
I've got it! There are no clues! They are getting the backstory out there. They don't have time for us to uncover clues and solve riddles. They have to be on a strict schedule to release this stuff. Hell I am starting to think it has always been that way and the few clues "discovered"(jllovesth, TIDO) were PM's.

Just my thought

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