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starshiptrooper
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 		Now, what is the point of figuring out the force needed to eject those items from the ocean? We know he does it, you can't disprove it. Even if you prove it's impossible, it still happened.

This is why I think it happened:

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Perhaps the monster's roar is a frequency that produces a massive, localized shockwave. We did hear the roar at the beginning of the trailer, and the Tag Tanker was trashed in the harbor.

Then we hear the roar bfore/during the initial giant explosion, and we hear the roar before/during the ejection of the debris from the water.


It's a big freakin monster, and it's just a movie. Anything can happen.
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Weyland Yutani wrote:
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dazed118 wrote:
This debate could go round forever.

Starship, I'm with you. I see no tentacles. Only water movement, but our beloved monster must have multiple appendages to fling things up the way he/she/it does. There's 11 days left, or less if you're going to a screening, so we will see soon enough.


I'd say that from the power and trajectory of the flying objects, they aren't being thrown through water or tossed by a tentacle. Just not very likely.

I'm thinking there are definitely multiple blowholes ejecting the debris. In through the mouth and out through the blowholes. I'm looking up info on whale blowholes right now.


This is possible. However, I have a hard time believing that this thing is going to shoot massive girders out of its noses. Unless these blowholes are freaking huge (not unlike the common lion, j/k) I don't think these girders would fit.



There really isn't any better explanation for the projectiles. We are talking about a huge freakin animal. 15 feet across isn't so big by size comparison. No way we can prove this at this point, but I think it lends credence to the idea that MGP has some whale-mut attributes.

...and if you think about it, that's a pretty cool monster superpower. Scary and visual.

* and hey....it was either looking up porn or whale blowholes. A geek has to have priorities.


Hahaha, fair enough man.
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 		Anyone else but me here think we should start investigating the connection with the tanker, Chuai, and NYC?

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xboyonfirex wrote:
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For the largest chunks of debris, the force of drag the water would exert on the debris is ~400million Newtons. Therefore, MGP would have to project them up with that force until they exit the water. Or, assuming the roar is when they are initially shot up, the force would need to be closer to 500million N.
That's equivalent to the force released when a typical car hits a brick wall at 260,000 m/s (or 581,000 mph).

For the smaller bits, it would be about 1/4 or 1/5 of that, or so.

Ah...yeah.


Awesome...


But I gotta ask again. Other than to display your brilliance,

Why does ANY of that really matter?


if nothing else, it means he's one mother of a fucker

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Lupinicus wrote:
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I'm with starshiptrooper that we need to keep looking into all the details, including what's blatantly in the video. One thing this clears up is how the military might have reason to be a wee bit on alert.


Ditto. I'm really leaning toward that distress call being from the tanker (thus the Coast Guard knows something is up and then also the rest of the military soon after) and that the monster is following it to New York.


I am with you guys. The military have been alerted and you can bet they will be keeping track of this situation. Wonder if we will see another radar image?

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 		Has anyone tried putting together the different clips from the chuai videos? I noticed each of them have a different ending when showing the clip of the camera phone boat getting smashed by whatever that was

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starshiptrooper wrote:
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I'm with starshiptrooper that we need to keep looking into all the details, including what's blatantly in the video. One thing this clears up is how the military might have reason to be a wee bit on alert.


You damn right. Even if our media is just playing this as a filler, "Fluff" story, you can bet this perked up the military.

Would explain why the planes in the trailer are F-18's, a Navy fighter. The Coast Guard releases a video they took, plus the distress call from the Tanker (I bet it's the tanker), then the National Guard on the the East Coast goes on alert, and the Navy parks a Carrier off the East coast on combat alert.

Maybe we'll start to get more U.S. news reports where they start taking this a little more seriously.


Also, I want to point some attention to this line from the American Chuai press release:

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Everything in the ocean is impacted from these oil spills that come into contact from it, from plankton, from small micro-organisms all the way up the food chain. So, ya know, people go out and fish these fish that ate these things and suddenly we have toxic fish in our bodies."


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Shadowfury wrote:
Anyone else but me here think we should start investigating the connection with the tanker, Chuai, and NYC?


Yes! Several people have asked about this, and I have made at least 3 posts in the past hour or two concerning it. We just need someone fluent in Japanese to listen to the news report again.

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Lupinicus wrote:
Shadowfury wrote:
Anyone else but me here think we should start investigating the connection with the tanker, Chuai, and NYC?


Yes! Several people have asked about this, and I have made at least 3 posts in the past hour or two concerning it. We just need someone fluent in Japanese to listen to the news report again.


I've mentioned it a few times - they are reporting that contact was lost with the tanker while it was on it's way to New York from Norway and that they think the distress it ran in to could be related.
I am sure the blue circle is the approximate location of the tanker when they lost contact.

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 		anyone know why the hell there are military on board the station? as if they knew it was coming?

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Chrizzy wrote:
For the largest chunks of debris, the force of drag the water would exert on the debris is ~400million Newtons. Therefore, MGP would have to project them up with that force until they exit the water. Or, assuming the roar is when they are initially shot up, the force would need to be closer to 500million N.
That's equivalent to the force released when a typical car hits a brick wall at 260,000 m/s (or 581,000 mph).

For the smaller bits, it would be about 1/4 or 1/5 of that, or so.

Ah...yeah.


Yeah.... about that im pretty sure your calculations are wrong (100% sure Very Happy ), but none of that matters so oh well Rolling Eyes

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Mukatsuku wrote:
Lupinicus wrote:
Shadowfury wrote:
Anyone else but me here think we should start investigating the connection with the tanker, Chuai, and NYC?


Yes! Several people have asked about this, and I have made at least 3 posts in the past hour or two concerning it. We just need someone fluent in Japanese to listen to the news report again.


I've mentioned it a few times - they are reporting that contact was lost with the tanker while it was on it's way to New York from Norway and that they think the distress it ran in to could be related.
I am sure the blue circle is the approximate location of the tanker when they lost contact.


Apologies, the last post I read (or remember reading at least) that dealt with that distress call said that the call was from Chuai, so I wanted to get verification. What you're saying is exactly what I originally thought and what (IMO) makes the most sense. Thanks for clarification.

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Snyde Comment wrote:
anyone know why the hell there are military on board the station? as if they knew it was coming?


It's not any official military... they're agents of Tagruato. Notice the patch on their shoulders

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blee02 wrote:
Chrizzy wrote:
For the largest chunks of debris, the force of drag the water would exert on the debris is ~400million Newtons. Therefore, MGP would have to project them up with that force until they exit the water. Or, assuming the roar is when they are initially shot up, the force would need to be closer to 500million N.
That's equivalent to the force released when a typical car hits a brick wall at 260,000 m/s (or 581,000 mph).

For the smaller bits, it would be about 1/4 or 1/5 of that, or so.

Ah...yeah.


Yeah.... about that im pretty sure your calculations are wrong (100% sure), but none of that matters so oh well Rolling Eyes


Ah...no. Never tell a physics major that his physics calculations are wrong, lol.

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 		Tag Ninjas are coming to get you Jamie


Also, can we NOT have 15 pages about whether or not it's possible to throw stuff out of the water? Clover can do it. It's there in the video. You don't have to prove or disprove it.

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