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[SPEC] New Theory
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h311b3nt
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 		[SPEC] New Theory
TIDOwave has been infiltrated
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At least I think it is new, could not find anything similar. Sorry in advance for the long post. I see a lot of talk about whether or not Chuai existed or is underwater based on the fact that TIDOWAVE reported that there was nothing there. But what if TIDOWAVE has been compromised?

Look at the posts as well as the Teddy package:

Oct4 - Jamie receives a package from Teddy that already contains a message about the Chuai station. He tells her to open it on December 9th in the hopes that if he is captured, she will warn Randy who will contact her.

Dec 9 - Jamie opens the package and dismisses it. Randy never calls her.

Dec10 - Call to Action The "event" discussed in the last meeting had a problem and they are scheduling a REPEAT event for the 14th. Flower donations being accepted. Also, TIDOWAVE posts stop updating comments.

Dec 18 - Unknown TIDOWAVE member reports that things are not going as planned and says that THEY told me to post here and than later says "I'm the ONLY ONE here.

Jan 1 - "TIDOWAVE" reports that there was "simply nothing there".

So my theory goes like this:
Teddy, who works with TIDOWAVE, is part of a team that infiltrates Chuai to dig up Intel. He collects that a sample, swipes a Slusho hat, and makes the tape. He disguises the package puts it into the general mail drop. He attempts to send a message to Randy let him know that Jamie has the sample. He and the rest of the team ultimately are captured/killed and the message to Randy is lost/intercepted.

Randy may have received some sort of Intel that some of the team was killed. This is rumor-milled out to the community. Yet he is awaiting word back from his last spy, Teddy. The deadline for Teddy to report in passes (probably December 9th). He does not know to go to Jamie for the sample. Randy sends the "Call to Action" to stage a repeat event and realizing that mourning members may see him as heartless he immediately sends the "Flower Donations" post to gain face in the community. He updates the most recent comment submissions.

A second much larger group stages an event to infiltrate Chuai and is either killed/captured. Randy is with them.
One of two things occurs:
1) An unknown member that did not participate in the event makes a desperate plea for help. All important members of TIDOWAVE did participate and now this person fears capture/death.
Maybe more likely is
2) TAG learns the location of TIDOWAVE headquarters and captures our unknown member. They coerce him to send out a message to all sleeper cells to in order to capture as many TIDOWAVE members as possible.("They told me to post here.") He slips in the message as a warning. (I'm the only one here right now.)

TAG begins collecting TIDOWAVE members. Rumors of the two Chuai teams as well as sleeper cells being captured start to circulate. So in an effort to squash these rumors, TAG, who now knows how to post on the TIDOWAVE website, posts a message as Randy stating that not only he is alive but that Chuai does not even exist! They do not update any comments from posts to further reduce the communication between members. Meanwhile, Chuai is still in the middle of the Atlantic, now with potential captors, harvesting Seabed's Nectar.

Granted, this might be far-fetched. But I was trying to think like the creator of Alias. That show was all about warring secret spy groups and became even more far-fetched than this theory (Rambaldi cube immortality, age-old prophecies about a struggle between a world destroyer and a savior who happen to be half sisters, etc.)

edit to add tag ~rose

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 		Re: [SPEC] New Theory
TIDOwave has been infiltrated
h311b3nt wrote:
TAG begins collecting TIDOWAVE members. Rumors of the two Chuai teams as well as sleeper cells being captured start to circulate. So in an effort to squash these rumors, TAG, who now knows how to post on the TIDOWAVE website, posts a message as Randy stating that not only he is alive but that Chuai does not even exist! They do not update any comments from posts to further reduce the communication between members. Meanwhile, Chuai is still in the middle of the Atlantic, now with potential captors, harvesting Seabed's Nectar.


Except that claiming that the station isn't there would just draw more attention to it.

If they really wanted to divert attention then they'd just bring the TIDOWave website down.
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 		I would think that bringing the site down would make sleeper cells go underground. If they wanted to gather all the members, they would want to make it look like everything is status quo, don't you think?

PS I am not in love with the theory, but it seemed to hold a little water.

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h311b3nt wrote:
I would think that bringing the site down would make sleeper cells go underground. If they wanted to gather all the members, they would want to make it look like everything is status quo, don't you think?

PS I am not in love with the theory, but it seemed to hold a little water.


It does, I thought the same thing myself last night, but I just can't get over the poster saying that Chuai isn't there at all, that draws a lot of attention to Tagruato and what's been happening there.
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 		Haha, Tagruato has Sleeper Cells now? Laughing *

If Tag infiltrated Tidowave, all they'd have to do is alter the Chuai coordinates that the group has. Job done!

*edit: I think I misread that, I thought you were saying They were Tagurato's Sleeper Cells!

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 		I'm pretty sure most of TIDOwave is dead, but I doubt Tag took them over.
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 		Re: [SPEC] New Theory
TIDOwave has been infiltrated
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Dec 9 - Jamie opens the package and dismisses it. Randy never calls her.


Well, here's a theory for you...what if Randy DID call, and we've already seen the entire conversation?

IDK if anyone's thought of it already, but after Jamie called Tagruato, someone called her back...but no one said it was the same person that called back. What if that was Randy's call?

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 		Re: [SPEC] New Theory
TIDOwave has been infiltrated
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h311b3nt wrote
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Dec 9 - Jamie opens the package and dismisses it. Randy never calls her.


Well, here's a theory for you...what if Randy DID call, and we've already seen the entire conversation?

IDK if anyone's thought of it already, but after Jamie called Tagruato, someone called her back...but no one said it was the same person that called back. What if that was Randy's call?


I guess I always assumed that it was someone speaking Japanese but I guess it could have been Randy calling her right after she got off the phone with Tag. Maybe Randy is French and was speaking French since TIDOwave started in France.

Possible.....

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 		Has anyone considered the possibilities that TIDOwave.com and the hack of the Tag website was a gamejack and not officially IG?

Just throwing some SPEC out for you guys to discuss.
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konamouse wrote:
Has anyone considered the possibilities that TIDOwave.com and the hack of the Tag website was a gamejack and not officially IG?

Just throwing some SPEC out for you guys to discuss.


It's been discussed. Don't make me trout you.
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 		The Tidowave site has been widely scrutinized as possibly not official. I think that many of those suspicions went away with the Chuai "eco-terriorist" altercation update on the TAG website earlier today. Seems to tie into the TIDOwave site.

I had my suspicions to...especially b/c of that cheesy flash at the beginning of the TIDOwave site.... Rolling Eyes But I lean more towards IG now.

EDIT: Actually, the death of Kazui Ichigawa showed up on TIDOwave before TAG, didn't it? That would seal it as IG.

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konamouse wrote:
Has anyone considered the possibilities that TIDOwave.com and the hack of the Tag website was a gamejack and not officially IG?

Just throwing some SPEC out for you guys to discuss.



Ohhh, not that again! Half the forum didn't believe it was in game at one point.

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 		Maybe the son in law of Ichigawa is the Whistle blower. The emails from WB came out right out after Ichigawa died. I mean it was not only his father in law, mother in law, but also his wife and daughter that died. That might make someone go vigilante.

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konamouse wrote:
Has anyone considered the possibilities that TIDOwave.com and the hack of the Tag website was a gamejack and not officially IG?

Just throwing some SPEC out for you guys to discuss.


DO NOT TRY AND RAIN THIS MADNSS DOWN UPON US FOR A SECOND TIME. TIDOWAVE.COM IS INGAME. END OF STORY.

And if that was sarcasm, my apologies, but you know how it is with interwebz...

As for the Tag infiltration theory, it did cross my mind, but the disappearance of Chuai station would just make them seem worse, wouldn't it? Besides, why would they be mentioning an 'altercation' on their website and phone messages if such a thing was untrue?

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Bacon Army wrote:
As for the Tag infiltration theory, it did cross my mind, but the disappearance of Chuai station would just make them seem worse, wouldn't it?


I guess the way that I saw it would be that the existing members would think that the coordinates were not correct, not that the station disappeared.

Bacon Army wrote:
Besides, why would they be mentioning an 'altercation' on their website and phone messages if such a thing was untrue?


I see the TAG altercation as a something going awry with MGP and not related at all to the TIDOwave events. Even if you throw out my crackpot theory and believe that Randy returned, Randy said that they did not get into any altercations (or anything else for that matter). So if we believe that the the "altercation" was TAG and TIDOwave going at it as TAG would like you to believe, then that would mean that Randy lied about it in his blog which makes less sense to me. The TAG "altercation" has to be issues with MGP, and they are using TIDOwave as the scape goat.

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