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[SPEC] 1-18-08 - Date inconsistencies?
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huricanefan
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 		[SPEC] 1-18-08 - Date inconsistencies?
why may!
I have Friend who worked on the movie, hasn't told me shit this whole time.
I confronted him about the time frame and about the gap and he said 1-18
is when they find the tape. He might f@cking with me but i wanted see what you guys think

Edit - Tagged and titled for clarity - MikeyJ

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 		If the movie events are supposed to take place in May, how can the find the camera in January?
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 		It makes no fucking sense for this movie not to take place on 1/18/08. For one thing, that was what I found cool about the game, i.e. events leading up to the movie happening in real time. The oil rig collapsing about two weeks before the movie's out, Rob's MySpace saying he'd be leaving in mid-January for Japan, etc. Why they'd go in set in May is beyond me, and I hope that's not true.

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 		January the next year

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starshiptrooper wrote:
If the movie events are supposed to take place in May, how can the find the camera in January?


Time travel. Duh.
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starshiptrooper wrote:
If the movie events are supposed to take place in May, how can the find the camera in January?


If the movie was supposed to take place in January, how do they find the video so abruptly. That logic doesn't make sense.

Why is everyone freaking out over this? You got 2 choices:

ignore the dates and pretend that all this ARE/ARG/VMC is taking place in early/mid May.

or

Let the ARE/ARG/VMC play its self out. I mean, remember- Rob and Beth are with eachother for a while before the incident takes place [hence the recorded over, day after sex version of the film]. So, All this will probably be played out and come to a stand still on the 18th. It never said that Rob had to leave ASAP. He gets hired and leaves in May... I can see that happening.

[EDIT] and if it doesn't happen that way- resort to choice one...

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 		Yes but Robs MySpace clearly states he is leaving in the middle of the month (January 19th maybe?) after Lil asks him the question.

Honestly, if they dont explain what day and date the monster attack was, Im just going with January 18th.

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xboyonfirex wrote:
starshiptrooper wrote:
If the movie events are supposed to take place in May, how can the find the camera in January?


If the movie was supposed to take place in January, how do they find the video so abruptly. That logic doesn't make sense.

Why is everyone freaking out over this? You got 2 choices:

ignore the dates and pretend that all this ARE/ARG/VMC is taking place in early/mid May.

or

Let the ARE/ARG/VMC play its self out. I mean, remember- Rob and Beth are with eachother for a while before the incident takes place [hence the recorded over, day after sex version of the film]. So, All this will probably be played out and come to a stand still on the 18th. It never said that Rob had to leave ASAP. He gets hired and leaves in May... I can see that happening.

[EDIT] and if it doesn't happen that way- resort to choice one... babies.


The movie is already starting to sound like shit to me. The monster sounds bad. The times/dates sound bad. The movie sounds like it's OOG, which would mean i've wasted hours and hours writing and reading about this stuff. Nothing we've discovered has yet seemed to connect to the movie in any way whatsoever.

If it's an upset, than we have every right to be babies.
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My_Name_Is_Dan wrote:
Yes but Robs MySpace clearly states he is leaving in the middle of the month (January 19th maybe?) after Lil asks him the question.

Honestly, if they dont explain what day and date the monster attack was, Im just going with January 18th.


and that's because we all wanted it to take place on January 18th. That's the main reason why so many people are complaining aren't they? They REALLY wanted this movie to take place on the 18th of January. And it sucks when expectations aren't met. I keep saying this: Keep an open mind. I know we all got our specs, but we should make these specs ALWAYS with an open mind. Now that we know that it doesn't take place in January, the fact that he's leaving in the middle of the month now means in the middle of the month of May.

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JimiJons wrote:
xboyonfirex wrote:
starshiptrooper wrote:
If the movie events are supposed to take place in May, how can the find the camera in January?


If the movie was supposed to take place in January, how do they find the video so abruptly. That logic doesn't make sense.

Why is everyone freaking out over this? You got 2 choices:

ignore the dates and pretend that all this ARE/ARG/VMC is taking place in early/mid May.

or

Let the ARE/ARG/VMC play its self out. I mean, remember- Rob and Beth are with eachother for a while before the incident takes place [hence the recorded over, day after sex version of the film]. So, All this will probably be played out and come to a stand still on the 18th. It never said that Rob had to leave ASAP. He gets hired and leaves in May... I can see that happening.

[EDIT] and if it doesn't happen that way- resort to choice one... babies.


The movie is already starting to sound like shit to me. The monster sounds bad. The times/dates sound bad. The movie sounds like it's OOG, which would mean i've wasted hours and hours writing and reading about this stuff. Nothing we've discovered has yet seemed to connect to the movie in any way whatsoever.

If it's an upset, than we have every right to be babies.


then find a tissue, don't watch the movie and find something else to fill your time. I doubt you're gonna find an apology from J.J. Abrams for 'wasting your time.'

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xboyonfirex wrote:
My_Name_Is_Dan wrote:
Yes but Robs MySpace clearly states he is leaving in the middle of the month (January 19th maybe?) after Lil asks him the question.

Honestly, if they dont explain what day and date the monster attack was, Im just going with January 18th.


and that's because we all wanted it to take place on January 18th. That's the main reason why so many people are complaining aren't they? They REALLY wanted this movie to take place on the 18th of January. And it sucks when expectations aren't met. I keep saying this: Keep an open mind. I know we all got our specs, but we should make these specs ALWAYS with an open mind. Now that we know that it doesn't take place in January, the fact that he's leaving in the middle of the month now means in the middle of the month of May.


No. That's not why we're upset, it's the fact that the events taking place on the 18th were one of the most conclusive pieces of evidence that we had. Now that this is wrong, and that Paramount or bad Robot, or whatever mistakenly misled us with such strong implications means that anything else we have found or know is no longer valid in any way whatsoever. What we may think we know could simply be a screw up or mistake on the runner's part. It really kills the fact that we spent so much effort on bullshit. They clearly didn't know how to run an effective ARG.
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JimiJons wrote:
xboyonfirex wrote:
My_Name_Is_Dan wrote:
Yes but Robs MySpace clearly states he is leaving in the middle of the month (January 19th maybe?) after Lil asks him the question.

Honestly, if they dont explain what day and date the monster attack was, Im just going with January 18th.


and that's because we all wanted it to take place on January 18th. That's the main reason why so many people are complaining aren't they? They REALLY wanted this movie to take place on the 18th of January. And it sucks when expectations aren't met. I keep saying this: Keep an open mind. I know we all got our specs, but we should make these specs ALWAYS with an open mind. Now that we know that it doesn't take place in January, the fact that he's leaving in the middle of the month now means in the middle of the month of May.


No. That's not why we're upset, it's the fact that the events taking place on the 18th were one of the most conclusive pieces of evidence that we had. Now that this is wrong, and that Paramount or bad Robot, or whatever mistakenly misled us with such strong implications means that anything else we have found or know is no longer valid in any way whatsoever. What we may think we know could simply be a screw up or mistake on the runner's part.


They're just dates. Just dates. There wasn't any math needed, no clue came from the dates. The only time dates were mentioned were in the date times of blogs and 01-18-08.com.

None of the characters specified the dates in their blogs, the middle of the month could have been ANY time. And what are you talking about 'the events on the 18th were one of the most conclusive pieces of evidence? What evidence? that's the date the movie comes out- no evidence needed.

My main question is [and this is to everyone] when you got on to this little train ride; what did you hope to find? what was it that you wanted to uncover? what was the point of you joining this venture?

To see a glimpse of the monster? To find the monster's origin? If so- it's not gonna happen. J.J. Abrams already said so looong ago. Matt Reeves said long ago that the movie doesn't take place on 01/18/08- why didn't this complaint come up then? Was that not official enough for you? To me, the dates are just a small bump in the road and nothing more... but that's my personal perspective on it all.

And don't get me confused- I REALLY wanted the incident to take place ON the 18th as well...

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xboyonfirex wrote:
JimiJons wrote:
xboyonfirex wrote:
starshiptrooper wrote:
If the movie events are supposed to take place in May, how can the find the camera in January?


If the movie was supposed to take place in January, how do they find the video so abruptly. That logic doesn't make sense.

Why is everyone freaking out over this? You got 2 choices:

ignore the dates and pretend that all this ARE/ARG/VMC is taking place in early/mid May.

or

Let the ARE/ARG/VMC play its self out. I mean, remember- Rob and Beth are with eachother for a while before the incident takes place [hence the recorded over, day after sex version of the film]. So, All this will probably be played out and come to a stand still on the 18th. It never said that Rob had to leave ASAP. He gets hired and leaves in May... I can see that happening.

[EDIT] and if it doesn't happen that way- resort to choice one... babies.


The movie is already starting to sound like shit to me. The monster sounds bad. The times/dates sound bad. The movie sounds like it's OOG, which would mean i've wasted hours and hours writing and reading about this stuff. Nothing we've discovered has yet seemed to connect to the movie in any way whatsoever.

If it's an upset, than we have every right to be babies.


then find a tissue, don't watch the movie and find something else to fill your time. I doubt you're gonna find an apology from J.J. Abrams for 'wasting your time.'


Why not? It's clearly his fault. He wanted people to watch his movie, and he wanted to make money. So what? He makes a viral marketing campaign that misleads people, with the sole purpose of occupying people's interest in the movie until the release date. Than people go to watch the movie, which actually had nothing to do with the ARG. Than it's not an ARG.

I originally followed on because I was curious. Eventually the lure of participating in discovering what there was to be discovered overcame my wanting to watch the movie itself. Now that I figure out that the ARG was for nothing, why can't I complain about it? Honestly, if you can't take bitching or people being upset because of faulty results, than you shouldn't participate. Don't be immature and go around calling people babies when they say that their expectations weren't met.
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 		Well...doesnt ARG mean "Alternate Reality Game"?
As in ALTERNATE REALITY, like not related to the thing it started in?
Lost ARG Had nothing to do with the 3rd season, except give us a few clues to who characters where and a better insight into Dharma before they explained more in S3.

Thats exactly what Cloverfield did with their ARG, gave us a clue that Rob is going to work for Slusho (I heard its not explained where hes going to work in Japan, only the fans who competed in the ARG would know), We know who owns the oil taker (people who see the icon would have no clue what it is if they didnt follow the ARG).

Maybe we are SUPPOSED to think that the ARG is happening from November 2007 - May 2008?
Although that still doesnt explain why it took so long for the monster to find NYC after destroying Chaui on DECEMBER 27th.

Hmm...oh well. Go with the flow.

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xboyonfirex wrote:
JimiJons wrote:
xboyonfirex wrote:
My_Name_Is_Dan wrote:
Yes but Robs MySpace clearly states he is leaving in the middle of the month (January 19th maybe?) after Lil asks him the question.

Honestly, if they dont explain what day and date the monster attack was, Im just going with January 18th.


and that's because we all wanted it to take place on January 18th. That's the main reason why so many people are complaining aren't they? They REALLY wanted this movie to take place on the 18th of January. And it sucks when expectations aren't met. I keep saying this: Keep an open mind. I know we all got our specs, but we should make these specs ALWAYS with an open mind. Now that we know that it doesn't take place in January, the fact that he's leaving in the middle of the month now means in the middle of the month of May.


No. That's not why we're upset, it's the fact that the events taking place on the 18th were one of the most conclusive pieces of evidence that we had. Now that this is wrong, and that Paramount or bad Robot, or whatever mistakenly misled us with such strong implications means that anything else we have found or know is no longer valid in any way whatsoever. What we may think we know could simply be a screw up or mistake on the runner's part.


They're just dates. Just dates. There wasn't any math needed, no clue came from the dates. The only time dates were mentioned were in the date times of blogs and 01-18-08.com.

None of the characters specified the dates in their blogs, the middle of the month could have been ANY time. And what are you talking about 'the events on the 18th were one of the most conclusive pieces of evidence? What evidence? that's the date the movie comes out- no evidence needed.

My main question is [and this is to everyone] when you got on to this little train ride; what did you hope to find? what was it that you wanted to uncover? what was the point of you joining this venture?

To see a glimpse of the monster? To find the monster's origin? If so- it's not gonna happen. J.J. Abrams already said so looong ago. Matt Reeves said long ago that the movie doesn't take place on 01/18/08- why didn't this complaint come up then? Was that not official enough for you? To me, the dates are just a small bump in the road and nothing more... but that's my personal perspective on it all.

And don't get me confused- I REALLY wanted the incident to take place ON the 18th as well...


I expected to find something that would provide an explanation. Through the course of this, we found practically nil. What we had was important because we lingered on it. 1-18-08 was significant because it was one of the only things we had to analyze. The temperature of the date of events didn't make since with a date in the middle of January. Perhaps there was a reason for the date to be specified for 1-18-08 after all, and we just hadn't found the connection yet. The fact is that it was being emphasized in lots of the clues. We assumed it was important, because it was all that we were given. We went on with it. After months of being sure 1-18-08 was significant, the movie was released and we find out it was null. That's counterproductive and counter-productivity makes people unhappy.
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