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Rowanbranch
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 		What about we take the text (625) and subtract the ASCII coded letters from the cubicle?

If the code is ABEF, we remove the first A, then the first B and so forth?
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LazarusLong
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 		Re: Bright Idea[r]s
argus wrote:
dishboy wrote:
3. ramiles' idea -> Convert each character in the bottom part to ASCII, using each code as an index in a linear character array, rather than a grid: untried so far


It would be quite unnecessary to include 625 characters in this case, since ASCII doesn't go any higher than 255. I guess it could be there to confuse us, but after trying the method out I don't think it's very likely. Anyway, here's what I got from using this method, if anyone would like to analyse it further.

y"&,@l%\v;>!f)q$}i*t+#^/b = UQUBKDUSHVHYWCMGWPRKTRYWG
a?=s^-_\@d#&,o(._%g*@:"/c = ATQEYVDSKCRUBXOIDUDRKVQWW


Perhaps selecting the first letter from the start of the string, the second from the end, and so on, alternating back and forth. Or vice versa. That would use more of the character set than simply selecting from the start of the string.
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docvego
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 		Re: Bright Idea[r]s
LazarusLong wrote:

Perhaps selecting the first letter from the start of the string, the second from the end, and so on, alternating back and forth. Or vice versa. That would use more of the character set than simply selecting from the start of the string.



I did a little bit going back and forth using the ASCII values with the 625 chars in a single line but I haven't seen anything good yet. The /b and /c thing still makes me wonder... Rolling Eyes

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BoJangles
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 		fix attempt
sauceykat wrote:
teeman11 wrote:
here an excel sheet with the Ascii, hex, oct, and bin equivalents for each symbol.

I have worked it a few ways and so far nothing. I tried ad and subtracting the two rows and I got nothing from that either.

this doesn't seem to work on my computer...most of the columns have #'s in them instead of data...maybe it's my computer.


The columns may not be formatted wide enough to show the data, as that is the only reason that MS gives for the apperance of the #'s in Excel. Try expanding the columns, might work.

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katya2032
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 		Has anyone tried Reggie as the key?

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h4d35
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 		how many letters are there in the alphabet?
25 right?

maybe the message is in the 2 cryptic rows and there are 25 keys in the big block?

or the message is in the big block and the two rows below are character substitution schemes...(since they are 25 letters long)

or the other way around... or... um something totally different

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dishboy
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h4d35 wrote:
how many letters are there in the alphabet?
25 right?


Is this a joke? Shocked There's 26...
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h4d35
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 		um... fuck. im stupid Smile

forgot the W
counted on my fingers 5 times... it ended up at 25 each and everytime... ive got 25 on my mind... seriously wicked

heartexamination today... maybe ill tell them to check my head too

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Rowanbranch
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 		Has anyone tried removing the "coded" lower areas from the text area at the upper part?

I mean if the lower area has ABC, then we remove the first A, then continue and remove the first B we come to and so forth?
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Duluoz
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 		SPEC
By all analysis, the 625 character block is totally random. This would make it a good one-time pad. Given the email last night by Caretaker, I think this is a likely avenue to explore.

Speculation: The first 50 characters of the pad should be used to decipher the 50 characters in the box. This would leave the remaining 575 characters to decipher future messages from Caretaker.

Has anybody else tried this approach?
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EricL1st
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 		This is the 625 characters converted from ASCII to Decimal:

Code:
72 83 72 73 74 67 82 74 66 70 78 82 67 87 88 65 90 84 73 87 84 71 83 89 69
88 71 87 74 68 69 67 89 81 82 71 85 85 76 79 67 82 84 66 86 73 87 85 76 83
67 80 84 83 68 87 90 86 86 72 81 72 84 75 81 71 80 85 85 77 76 76 82 69 68
85 68 77 70 74 78 83 78 69 82 66 72 74 65 83 67 83 74 89 68 68 65 71 87 67
74 87 68 86 80 74 90 68 72 70 88 77 69 82 69 75 89 72 86 76 85 82 89 67 87
88 70 73 70 73 85 65 70 87 67 73 70 78 72 68 73 88 74 74 77 88 79 90 89 65
83 88 69 80 79 66 84 73 69 77 71 90 71 89 72 76 65 88 76 67 65 75 82 72 69
79 77 74 84 73 66 78 68 75 71 73 65 80 89 76 71 80 84 79 83 84 87 90 89 74
87 69 74 80 90 65 74 69 66 84 74 77 84 88 82 81 67 84 89 78 73 80 85 89 65
87 76 75 88 86 84 72 82 72 74 74 79 84 79 72 81 83 71 82 88 70 73 86 70 88
87 86 70 82 80 68 83 81 73 87 85 69 85 84 77 89 69 90 65 69 74 81 76 86 80
90 65 86 80 72 72 68 69 68 76 68 68 81 82 87 87 72 88 69 87 79 80 81 65 74
80 86 86 79 66 79 83 85 89 67 66 87 65 75 82 72 68 82 83 81 78 68 78 67 86
85 78 88 78 73 77 80 75 65 81 70 88 65 76 69 79 70 69 72 74 86 65 85 82 88
76 81 65 82 71 85 90 89 89 71 86 89 65 65 69 78 88 83 89 75 83 70 69 71 70
89 73 83 76 67 83 73 67 81 83 70 75 85 83 70 72 68 70 68 70 70 80 89 72 73
77 77 86 82 83 84 75 88 69 80 88 81 87 69 65 82 74 76 79 80 85 85 81 76 69
86 71 75 89 69 72 84 68 90 67 75 89 82 80 81 69 66 85 68 65 83 82 71 65 71
86 84 84 69 80 68 86 70 68 75 83 85 70 73 73 76 71 74 82 73 86 73 70 66 89
79 77 83 67 88 89 77 90 88 67 86 67 82 69 87 78 70 90 79 79 90 82 68 78 82
66 86 73 65 89 67 75 80 83 83 73 65 65 81 68 90 83 89 80 77 74 79 76 75 86
90 73 66 71 66 69 77 70 65 84 77 68 70 78 78 77 79 69 72 67 76 78 77 70 87
66 90 81 65 68 86 68 66 75 89 80 70 87 69 82 65 78 74 82 76 65 71 80 85 81
90 83 89 83 85 89 76 90 69 70 74 65 89 72 80 76 83 87 87 87 72 79 74 78 83
84 66 88 82 77 68 83 90 73 75 86 70 69 80 85 83 89 84 65 87 69 68 86 65 76

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Jackpot
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 		I'm new to this. Be gentle!
It's probably just a coincidence, but there are 25 different buses running on the schedule over at NRU's site. Maybe there's some sort of connection between the number of buses and the 25x25 grid? Or am I reading into that schedule waaaaay too much? Smile

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addlepated
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 		Jackpot, I was pondering the bus schedules myself a couple of weeks ago. I didn't even think to connect them to this puzzle though! Perhaps you're on to something.

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Caterpillar
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 		original: y"&,@l%\v;>!f)q$}i*t+#^/b
.....new: y'@^:l{/v?;#f(q#+i=t%!<;b

121 34 38 44 64 108 37 92 118 59 62 33 102 41 113 36 125 105 42 116 43 35 94 47 98
121 39 64 94 58 108 123 47 118 63 59 35 102 40 113 35 43 105 61 116 37 33 60 59 98

original: a?=s^-_\@d#&,o(._%g*@:"/c
.....new: a^_s*&-/@d!*;o]><@g-==|=c

97 63 61 115 94 45 95 92 64 100 35 38 44 111 40 46 95 37 103 42 64 58 34 47
99
97 94 95 115 42 38 45 47 64 100 33 42 59 111 93 62 60 64 103 45 61 61 179(?) 61 99

Well all the letters are in the same place, as well as one symbol (the @ sign in the second line)....not that I have a clue what to with that info. Do you think we might not even have to convert it?

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Caterpillar
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 		Two new strings yet again....from the interaction section (IM with Reggie).

original: y"&,@l%\v;>!f)q$}i*t+#^/b
second: y'@^:l{/v?;#f(q#+i=t%!<;b
__third: y[]><l""v/,$f$q@*i+t!&.\b

original: a?=s^-_\@d#&,o(._%g*@:"/c
second: a^_s*&-/@d!*;o]><@g-==|=c
__third: a[<s&*+*#d)({o}:<@g:"@$\c

I don't think the symbols have any significance...since they are changing.
They may be used as place holders or something....always the same number of symbols between the letters.

What can we try?
letter = dot
symbol = dash

I tried:
letter = 1
symbol = 0
(And vice versa....)

Have also strung it out like so:
y4l2v3f1q2i1t4ba2s5d3o4g5c

Tried B64 encoding that string(hey I'm out of ideas).
eTRsMnYzZjFxMmkxdDRiYTJzNWQzbzRnNWM=

Then tried ROT'ing that....nothing promising (even using different ROTs for possible sections).

With this: y4l2v3f1q2i1t4ba2s5d3o4g5c
I also tried ROT'ing each letter with the following number (there are some inconsistancies with this method...and it quickly fell apart)

Fill in the missing letters?

Y _ _ _ _ L _ _ V _ _ _ F _ Q _ _ I _ T _ _ _ _ B

A _ _ S _ _ _ _ _ D _ _ _ O _ _ _ _ G _ _ _ _ _ C

Y O U A L L H A V E........................

Or if you take all the letters together YLVFQITBASDOGC they can be crypto'd to read AMBIDEXTROUSLY....lol.

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