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[nicodemoscain]

Wow...the one thing I haven't seen anyone address is the fact that J.J. Abrams is the mind-f*** king of the universe. The more I read about people fighting over the real-time events of the movie, the more I come to understand that this is what he wanted us to do. He wanted to see what we would say to this and he wants us to start questioning our own judgements of the movie.

Why?

Simple. The movies that everyone has been talking about are just pre-screenings! They have nothing to do with the real time of the movie because he KNEW people would run off and blab their mouths off about every little detail. I have the crazy feeling that we have yet to see or hear of the final cut of anything yet. I would not put it against J.J. AT ALL to have made two, maybe even THREE versions of the movie just to mess with our heads. The man is that much of a genius. I can feel it.

That is just my opinion on the whole matter. I have been wrong before. I guess we will all find out what really happens next Friday.

[golfguitarist]

I dont remember where i saw it....... but i do remember either JJ or one of the staff saying that the movie does not actually take place in January. He said people think these clues and viral marketing are playing up to the actual day of the attack but its not so. It is found footage, JJ says himself.


Plus........ just look at the movie clips, i think if it were taking place in January there'd be a little more wintery weather for it being in New York.

So im pretty sure the attack doesnt happen on 1-18-08. I know ive seen someone on the production team say its not.

[xboyonfirex]

[JadedMax]

At this point it has to be said.

[visitor]

YEES! ^^^

I have been following these forums for a while now and was too scared to post anything. Just recently I've been trying to fight the urge to post my opinions and thank God some of you have done that for me.

The whole time thing was already established by JJ before people found out about the May and Jan. discrepancy. Even if it wasn't it wouldn't make any sense. Here's why: How are we [the audience] witnessing something that is going on the same night (of course not REALLY but ya know) and is being videotaped as we watch? It isn't possible. JJ and his team have been stressing the realism of this movie from day one so why would they let something as blatently impossible slip through the cracks. Trust me JJ Abrams wouldn't miss this minor detail. What we will be seeing on 1-18-08 is what was found. So basically WE are the eyes of whoever found the tape. And the monster attacked NYC the previous year in May. Why the time gap? We don't know that yet but I'm sure it will be explained in some way... maybe not in this particular film, but in a future film. Maybe.

*Exhales deeply* I finally got it all out there. These are my opinions and I could be wrong but I am confident. lol. Thanks for letting me interrupt you guys' ARG. For the record you're all the raddest people around!

[xboyonfirex]

Re: At this point it has to be said.

[JadedMax]

Re: At this point it has to be said.

[ian mckenyon (ean_mc)]

i imagine that, after friday, there will be posts asking if new york got destroyed or not... c'mon guys...

*although*

i thought it did take place in January... seeing as how rob said he is leaving for japan in the middle of this month...meh

[crow]

Re: At this point it has to be said.

[Euchre]

I started to read this thread, then I went largely into 'scan mode' because it started to devolve into this petty 'ARG has nothing to do with the movie' tripe people are getting pointlessly upset about. To that I merely say this is an interactive viral campaign, not the usual definition of ARG, and in many respects a new form of Chaotic Fiction (CF). Because it doesn't follow the 'strict' standards of an ARG, people are getting flustered with it's incongruities with what's being said about the film - and so few have actually seen it to know better. (I thought that ARGs are still a revolutionary idea that is still largely undefinable? I guess some people just have to put a box around things.)

So if this is an 'IVC', and if it was outsourced (likely it would seem), then there is a good chance as speculated that secrecy kept them from sustaining good continuity. That's a really stupid stomp in the proverbial feces for sure. I tend to think there's more than just that to explain things, which I may find or figured out when I see the film...

Speaking of which...

Having not seen it yet, I have a strong suspicion that unless they outright tell you what month it is or the date, we have no solid evidence of that in the film. As many of you have probably noticed, I have an eye for some of the finest details in a big picture (remember Trinity using nmap in Matrix Reloaded?). I have to spoiler this, because it was rumored and I tripped on the info already and don't want it to 'ruin' anything for others:

[JadedMax]

With all of that said. I just look at it all now as if people are putting their wants and needs ahead of the primary reason this whole thing exists. We're pretty much all here because of Cloverfield.

Maybe people feel duped or cheated but look at the big picture. We're all a part of something pretty damned cool. What we call it, or the name of it, ARG or ARE or whatever semantics you want to use sucks.

It saps the fun right out of it. Now a segment of those following it have turned negative and are ruining it, right at the end. Because they've been conditioned that Cloverfield the movie has to be squeezed into this narrow box with stuff like the dates have to match up, or this photo is non canon, or this storyline was left out of the movie, or Jamie's not there or whatever.

What was a neat little experience turned into this labored obsession. I just want to see the movie, chill out with other fans and spread the word.

That's it.

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