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Tenchizard
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first of all, I'd suggest posting your mail in CA's site. Just to give opportunities for contact Razz

and well, I'd like to wait for a response from the one contacting me, just to make sure I'm not spoiling anything... this is my first ARG so I don't know all the "protocol"... imagine if this game had some kind of different sides or teams and I began advertising everything so openly Razz.
I know this forum is all OOG but... I'm not sure of what is happening yet. But I hope to have some more info soon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:57 am
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Transtar
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Tench - yeah I don't blame you, I've gotten blasted for posting one thing IG and something else here OoG (did it to show character interaction and such). Sometimes its a thin line to walk. By the way added my e-mail to the public site, but it different that the "official" e-mail I have in my profile so I know if who sent it has admin. status on CA.

Also there is a possibility it is a game-jack as well. Guess we'll see as this develops.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:36 pm
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notgordian
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This isn't the first time I'll be putting forward an argument like this, and it probably won't be the last.

As a player, you have every right to reveal or withhold any information you may receive. And you're right -- if you do reveal information, other players may use it in ways you didn't intend. (see lengthy discussion on that issue here)

However -- on the whole, applying the collective intelligence to problems helps parse through the issues faster and more effectively. Also, withholding information creates higher barriers of entry to the game for prospective players -- and when you look at all the high quality games that are out this month, that could be fatal to a game's development.

/rant

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Transtar
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notgordian wrote:
This isn't the first time I'll be putting forward an argument like this, and it probably won't be the last.

As a player, you have every right to reveal or withhold any information you may receive. And you're right -- if you do reveal information, other players may use it in ways you didn't intend. (see lengthy discussion on that issue here)

However -- on the whole, applying the collective intelligence to problems helps parse through the issues faster and more effectively. Also, withholding information creates higher barriers of entry to the game for prospective players -- and when you look at all the high quality games that are out this month, that could be fatal to a game's development.

/rant



Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to? Maybe a pamphlet?

Also I would like to point out that (I found) if PMs see that you share your "privileged" character interactions, they are more likely to continue to use you as a contact (even if your character doesn't share all the info IG).

For example I went "rogue" and contacted a character because I was getting frustrated with the lack of progress by our "team" (IG). While I shared many of the major points of the conversation IG, I left out many things that I felt would hurt my character. So I posted the full communication here (and confused many people in the process) and I feel that was one of the reasons the PMs kept in contact with me and didn't blow me off after the 2nd e-mail.

But it is your choice and I'm just letting you know my experience Smile

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:57 pm
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Tenchizard
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Thanks both of you for your tips. It's been a whole day and no reply to my last email, so I guess I'm not qualified for whatever they were intending (and I understand it, as my location makes me just a "remote" player). So I'm transcribing it here... If anyone wants to do anything special with this information, it's ok, but would be better if we all tried to make it look as if we were "in game"

Anyway, here it goes. On 4/3/08, at 8:57 (gmt+1) I received this email:
Code:
Greetings Friend,
 
I noticed a Posting from you on our favorite website recently. Maybe you should check out a posting I made recently, it contains a link which leads to a video tape of something that you have described in your last posting. You must understand this information is to be kept secret and only revealed to those on this website. Submitting information like this can cause me a great deal of trouble and I DON'T want any trouble, however I feel AMERICANS NEED TO KNOW!
 
Before I go, I was wondering if you could tell me any information about the individual who controls our favorite website. I have much information to share with him before I get caught, this needs to get out and out to the right people. So any information you can provide me with, anything... Where is he? Do you have any contact information for him? Any idea on where he was last seen?
 
Oh, and one more thing, I contacted you out of confidence. Don't mention to any one I have contacted you, I am in danger for the information I have already supplied. If you contact anyone on this information you may possibly be endangering your self as well.
 
Sincerely,
Agent Stenc


Quite interesting. If that's not a character, I should be quite afraid. Anyway, I replied with this mail:
Hi there

So, I've looked at the link you posted, seems to be from that famous "ufo-billy" case. I guess the tape you're talking about must be any of the videos in that site (ufocase), but I have no access to video watching right now so I'll have to wait till later when I can get home.

About your request for information, I'm sorry but I can't help you... I know some people are really trying hard to find his whereabouts, but I have no further info on that matter. Anyway, the best way to contact him is to get his attention with your replys on the site.

Just on a side note, I don't know if signing as "agent" Stenc is good for your credibility... remember this is a conspiracy site, so anything related to an organization may be viewed as working for THEM (and I mean THEM, not the user posting as "them").

Thanks anyway for contacting me, I'll keep you informed If I discover anything. And, if your information is as dangerous as you think, spreading it around is the best thing to do for keeping it "alive". Don't think about the risk of putting others in danger, but in the survability of your knowledge.[/code]

Just a few hours after that, at 12:09 (gmt+1), I get this reply:
Code:

Tenchu,
 
It seems you know a bit of knowledge of the famous Billy case. Good, good indeed...
 
I don't think you understand how important it is for me to contact the main man in regards to his site. It is a top priority of ours! Maybe it would be possible for you to inform me of your contact information, other then an email address so I can explain to you how important it is to find this individual. I am having many issues with the realization that no one can tell me his whereabouts, I mean YOU PEOPLE listen to him all the time!
 
Although it brings be great sorrow to hear that I am being possibly accused as one of them, I can reassure you I am not. You can trust me, I am only interested in the possible whereabouts of the said individual. And again, if you have any contact information for either yourself, or any other participants on this site, we would greatly appreciate there names and contact information. Of course, this is only to distribute further information regarding extraterristial existence.
 
Please be assured you can trust no one in this matter, oh and FYI, if you happen to see a white van following you with tinted windows, LOOSE THEM! Please do not let THEM follow you home, or my email address could possibly be compromised. And it could possibly be the end of further "leaking" information from this Agent.
 
Sincerely,
Agent Stenc


Well, now things were quite interesting, as this agent is asking for some kind of physycal address. But there's a big problem: I live in Spain, so I supposed I'm not really that qualified for sending me anything... so I sent this email:
Code:
I have... some good news, and some "not that good" news.

For the good news, I must inform you It's pretty hard for THEM to find me, as I guess I'm a bit... far from their supposed working area.

The bad news is that it applies to you too... I'm not american, and I live a bit far from there... And by far I mean Europe. That's the main reason I'm not afraid of THEM and would like to help Sawyer (the man from CA, that's his "nick" right now), because I'm pretty sure I can investigate and contact people by the internet knowing they're not going to actually come down here to Europe to tell me to stop.
My localization is precisely what makes it so hard for me to find Sawyer or anyone else: I must trust in emails I send and the people who try to contact me.

Of course, I write all this with the presumption everyone is from the USA and such... but If you're still interested in a more concrete adress, I know of a perfect place (here in europe, of course) where you could send me anything without compromising my security, as it's a public place where not many actions could be taken, and anything sent to me would get there safely.


After their quick first reply, It's weird I haven't been contacted again after a whole day, so I guess I'm not interesting anymore. Also, I haven't received a mail from skypilot for 2 or 3 days either... Any idea? I had thought about sending them to some other player in the USA, so you could try giving an adress or something, I know it's risky but... I'm kind of stuck in this.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:01 pm
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Hmm, Something about the e-mails just doesn't seem right, still not sure if i get the feeling not to trust the character or if it is more like a "game-jack" feeling. Either way something is off (but I've been wrong before).

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:49 am
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Deathforge
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Agent Stenc seems to be focused on Aliens, whereas the game is broader with multiple conspiracies. I lean toward game-jack, or more likely a player trying to mine other players / possible characters for info through a self developed character.

Of course, I could be wrong. Stick the name Agent Stenc next to "them" as possible character. Time will tell.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:08 am
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notgordian
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Got an email from Skyler.

Quote:
I think I finally got it! I think I know how they tracked him! I thought I'd tell all of you that.

But I don't know the exact stuff I need so it's gonna take a while. My baby sitter is the guy who figured it out. Mom knows him and said that he'll watch me on this inservice day. What the heck is that anyway? All I know is no school is cool with me!

And she brought me to see a stupid shrink! I can't believe it! She thinks I'm crazy! I told her about this MIB I keep seeing. I guess that idiot THEM got me all scared or something. He won't leave me alone! He seriously freaks me out and I told him to leave me alone! Maybe I do need that shrink lol or maybe he's one of those kid hunters online that they talk about on tv or something.

ttyl!


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jublets
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hey guys ive been in contact with skylar since the first email was sent, i thought it was a player so i didnt htink anything of it, until i got another email at work today and realized he was probably a char, i got the same email as above me^ i replied asking if the MIB was will smith followed by a jk of course, i will post any further convos, again im sorry for the tadiness of my posy, i honestly just thought it was another player :/

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Tenchizard
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I received that email too, you can see the receivers in the mail, they're not hidden.

Also, I finally received a mail from agent stenc:
Code:

Greetings!
Ahh thank you for your information, you have been such a great help to me as of this point! You have gave me information my colleagues could not gather, you inform us this little clan you have has breached over seas. Well, no worries my newly acquainted Friend, we have people there to... Well, actually, every were to be precise. So it may be possible for just these reasons you may want to be scared of THEM as you would put it.
 
I thank you for your leads for this ongoing investigation. I will forward your last email over to our people in Europe. Who knows maybe if you cooperate we can help each other out. It is always best to be on THERE side. You should be more cautious, Friend.
 
Sincerely
Agent Stenc


I wonder what information did I send him, this mails seem so much like... forms or something like that. And I guess this Agent Stenc has revealed himself as part of THEM. And I think he has done so too soon if he really wanted me to help him...

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Nodwarves4u
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Two thing. One: AgentStenc has now posted on CA askign for anyone to give him information. I dropped him a line. I will let you guys know if something comes of it. Two: It was asked previouslly if anyone donated. I have donated to the site and received an email from Sawer saying that the money is not really for site costs. One thing I thought was odd though was that I got two emails from Sawyer, but they were not identical. One had another persons name in it as well as an additional phrase. Am I the only one who thinks this is a bit odd?

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Deathforge
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FYI, Agent Stenc is a new (to ARGs) player. Email banter confirmed it.

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video 4 tones

I've attached the tones from the 4th video. They were hard to seperate from the voice.
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wilven
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grammarationism

And, by the way, shouldn't "Agents" use more precise grammar and spelling?

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Tenchizard
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file 5 is up

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
I discovered it at about 10:30 am gmt+1, and when tried to play the video, said that it was no longoer available. I copy-pasted the URL to go to youtube directly, conspiracyasylum's user had just 5 videos up (from 0 to 4). I went back to CA site to see if there were any comments, maybe someone had been able to see the video before anyone had taken it away... and then the video was there. So either Sawyer put the video and then someone took it away and put it back at 10:43 am gmt+1, or the page was ready a bit before the video was.


Watch the video until the end, I won't spoil the "fun"

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