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[SPEC] [SPOILERS] "Case, Designate, "CLOVERFIELD"
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clemgrad2001
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FISH FOR THE SQUIRREL PLEASE!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:42 am
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SuperSquirrel
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Case Building....

Although I LIKE fish...I beg to differ. This is more evidence to support the Theory of the OP. Not a shout out to a new find. But thanks for the Omega 3

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:50 am
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ajspring
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i highly doubt it was a nuke. right before it ends, there is a series of blasts. i wanna say the rubble is created on like the third or fourth blast.

also, i find the 1-18-08.com pictures VERY intriguing. a handful of them fit with events in the movie, but others do not. i think most recent few photos support the government conspiracy theory. obviously, the timing is key. if the photos of the rig going down, along with the battleships at sea, and then the two bloody ones are supposed to be after the attack, then it's kind of a "whatever", evidence-gathering thing. if they take place BEFORE the attack, then it's like we're seeing evidence that the government knew it was coming and tried to cover it up.

i support the conspiracy theory, why else would the government make the video that is the movie top secret?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:10 am
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vfozi
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long time lurker, first time poster, logging on because i just saw the film tonight and i'm pretty convinced that it was a nuke.

first of all, i'm not sure if i'm the only person here, but i gotta say that if i were the government, i would be much more concerned about the little dudes than i would be about MGP. so what, mr MGP, just bomb him over and over again with conventional ordinance, and that's it. we bombed iraq for what, 30 days in the first gulf war? i can't imagine the military would be like "well, two hours of bombing isn't working, let's just NUKE NYC"

but, consider the issue of THE PARASITE. what about the little dudes? i mean, they carry a VIRUS that makes ebola look like the common cold. one bite, and you swell up and explode? either that, or that's how they reproduce. and they're crawling all through the subway tunnels and who knows how many of them there are. obviously, the military was pretty concerned, hence the blue biohazard suits and the quarantine area (doesn't explain the fact that rob and hud were covered in marlena blood and they didn't get sick, but whatever). and then there were biohazard-marked barrels in the alley right after they left the military dude showed them out into the street (when Hud started crying).

so how about the theory that the government used nuclear weapons for the purpose of STERILIZING the island, since god knows what kind of disease the little critters are carrying, and the threat they'd pose if they got loose in the woods of new jersey, or crawled out the tunnel into brooklyn?

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Euchre
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About the bites from those little guys and the resulting bleeding and popping...
I got from the little bit we are shown and the dialog that went with it that our friends do reproduce through that method. The open chested person they wheel by as a 'bite victim' right before Marlena pops seems to have had something emerge and quite possibly consume a bit of what was inside. Since it took a bite and not just the mere presence of the little beasties to infect people, and they wanted to get her into quarrantine before she popped, it seems that something dangerous was expected to emerge from her. The bleeding would be a result of the release of anti-coagulants and probably digestive enzymes so that the host wouldn't suffer a clot and die right before the parasite could emerge and could be an easily consumed meal right after it emerged.
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smartmart
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Euchre wrote:
About the bites from those little guys and the resulting bleeding and popping...
I got from the little bit we are shown and the dialog that went with it that our friends do reproduce through that method. The open chested person they wheel by as a 'bite victim' right before Marlena pops seems to have had something emerge and quite possibly consume a bit of what was inside. Since it took a bite and not just the mere presence of the little beasties to infect people, and they wanted to get her into quarrantine before she popped, it seems that something dangerous was expected to emerge from her. The bleeding would be a result of the release of anti-coagulants and probably digestive enzymes so that the host wouldn't suffer a clot and die right before the parasite could emerge and could be an easily consumed meal right after it emerged.


after I saw the "We have a bite!" part, all I could make of it was that when someone is bitten you need to bring them quickly in a closed chamber because there will soon be a bloody mess. It should have been occuring frequently because there was people already wearing hazmat suits and standing by. I saw the movie in French, maybe the translation was not accurate, but it never mentionned reproduction/spawn or parasite.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:39 pm
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ajspring
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vfozi wrote:
so how about the theory that the government used nuclear weapons for the purpose of STERILIZING the island, since god knows what kind of disease the little critters are carrying, and the threat they'd pose if they got loose in the woods of new jersey, or crawled out the tunnel into brooklyn?


GOOD point! intuitively, i figured they would nuke it, but then what happened at the end didn't sound like a nuclear blast (though i'll admit i don't know a whole lot about what various types of bombing runs sound like...)

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dronetek
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About the "sound of bombings" before the end. I made the point in the other thread that, you hear that sound through most of the movie. It never stops!

Did anyone catch the line by HUD when he says, "thats a deep cravaus.....I mean crevis. ( a reference to man vs wild )

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:48 pm
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SuperSquirrel
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I see A Lot of TROUT

in recent posts...ie the last four pages in the last two days....I just do not want this thread lost in the nubeeness. Here is the update to the OP. The Case designate, "Cloverfield" is still viable. I have adjusted the OP to reflect what we know now. It looks like the Department of External Affairs is involved as well as the Department of Defense.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:12 am
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TheRabbit
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Not sure if this was brought up in this discussion, here's all the letters and numbers that pop up during the opening sequence:
[23:19] <TheRabbit> DoD84621469-008
[23:20] <TheRabbit> DoD (7) 32-16-12
[23:20] <TheRabbit> NGEA 901:836
[23:21] <TheRabbit> Document #USGX-8810-B467 Digital SD Card Multiple sightings of case designate "cloverfield"
[23:21] <TheRabbit> Camera retrieved at incident site "US-447" Area formerly known as "central park"
[23:22] <TheRabbit> R.B. CAT#8465 B
[23:22] <TheRabbit> Movie starts: April 27 6:41AM

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:23 am
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SuperSquirrel
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Of...

TheRabbit wrote:
Not sure if this was brought up in this discussion, here's all the letters and numbers that pop up during the opening sequence:
[23:19] <TheRabbit> DoD84621469-008
[23:20] <TheRabbit> DoD (7) 32-16-12
[23:20] <TheRabbit> NGEA 901:836
[23:21] <TheRabbit> Document #USGX-8810-B467 Digital SD Card Multiple sightings of case designate "cloverfield"
[23:21] <TheRabbit> Camera retrieved at incident site "US-447" Area formerly known as "central park"
[23:22] <TheRabbit> R.B. CAT#8465 B
[23:22] <TheRabbit> Movie starts: April 27 6:41AM


The Movie? Please Explain...
I see a couple that I have put up...Some not...

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:33 am
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TheRabbit
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Trailers stop, lights go dim:
Paramount Logo comes on screen
Bad Robot Logo
Black Screen
Test Pattern (starts counting down from 4 minutes, on the left is "DoD (7) 32-16-12")
Test Pattern fades, black screen with white grid lines. Top says "U.S. DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE" under that is "DoD84621469-008" under that "DoD (7) 32-16-12" is still visible, overlayed over that is what looks like "NGEA 901-836" (that's kind of hard to make out since it is overlapped)
Grid Lines fade
Black Screen, the "DoD (7) 32-16-12" and "NGEA 901-836" part is still up, below that is what looks like the DoD stamp.
DoD stamp fades out.
Text pops up on screen:
DOCUMENT #USGX-8810-B467
DIGITAL SD CARD
MULTIPLE SIGHTINGS OF CASE DESIGNATE
"CLOVERFIELD"

New text pops on screen. Top right says R.B. CAT#8465 B
Center says:
CAMERA RETRIEVED AT INCIDENT SITE "US-447"
AREA FORMERLY KNOWN AS "CENTRAL PARK"

text in top right pops out
center text pops out (bottom left still has the same DoD stuff on it)

Rob's video starts playing of him filming the apartment, time stamp on video is APR 27 6:41AM

clears things up?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:58 am
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McPhearson
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I didn't get that it was a nuke. Rather, I thought that it was more of the stealth planes we saw earlier while the crew was in the helicopter, which dropped a series of bombs that almost crop-dust MGP. It was my understanding that we hear more than TWO explosions at the end there. That's why the "barrage" idea came to mind. Even if that is true, I want to know how the monster survived.

As for the little sea lice, I don't know if they use human hosts like eggs. All I know is that it got a huge gasp from the audience when Marlena exploded.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:08 am
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Angstfild
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It was not, could not have been a nuclear device.

What do we know about such devices?

1) EMP at detonation. This would have alone destroyed the digitally recorded material and stopped the camera recording at the moment of detonation.
2) They are detonated at altitude.
3) Incineration at ground zero. With todays weapons I am sure complete anihilation and incineration would have encompassed the entire island.
4) Produce Fallout.

None of those things occur during the final moments the camera is active. We see "flames" and then the coney island scene. Had any of the above occured there would be nothing to watch.

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juggalo_kyle
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Okay so this whole ARE date and times and then the Movie date and times are really confusing me. There has to be just some sort of error that they didn't want to fix. The movie is clearly in April and May, but everything else in the ARE takes place through the fall up to 1/18. Rob even talks about having Christmas early with his mom to Jason on Myspace, so it's not like you can just pretend that the myspace dates aren't accurate because you can't change them. If that was just the case then they wouldn't mention Christmas because Christmas is obviously not in April or May. Also how can that oil rig be setup in Sept. but be attacked in the past before it even existed? Maybe I should have never even gotten involved in the ARE because now there are just too many questions and its driving me nuts. If all the dates matched and fit in then everything would be fine and I wouldn't be confused at all. I just don't understand why someone wouldn't just come out and explain the deal with the dates not matching.

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