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[SPEC] [SPOILERS] "Case, Designate, "CLOVERFIELD"
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Melodyman
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 		Think Rob says he has to leave in the middle of the month..

I suppose that since they made the trailer before they even had a finished script and called it 1-18-08 for the release date, they had to use the momentum from that name to start the back story since its the only name there was for us early on. Not sure how it will morph away from the early pics, but lets remember.. Cloverfield 1 the movie may end, but I'll bet the story will continue online there as Cloverfield 2 is being prepped.

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 		So, lets say the MySpaces are OOG. And the time stamps and messages were just viral. Wouldn't it still be cool to have a backstory? These pictures and films the evidence building the backstory for further development (a congressional hearing) to move the ARE along or to produce a sequel (the congressional hearing) or....hold your breath...a prequel?

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They may used some very limited tactical nukes in the film off shore or at shore but they would never nuke Manhattan, the monster could raze the joint and they would let him if the only thing that would stop him is full nuke.

There's billions in precious medals in Manhattan (much of it not ours), they aren't going to make them worthless no matter how many people die.
Nuking Manhattan would render the island uninhabitable for many, many years. You can't rebuild in a radiation zone. They would fight him with conventional weapons until he left the island then nuke him at seas of on the mainland.


If they thought the monster wasn't leaving New York, or might be heading inland next, I'd say they'd nuke it, if that was the only way. The guy in one of the latest trailers says something about

"We're gonna try this last thing, then we're leveling the city"
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One more thing. There was a post here saying that the pictures may have already been printed before the event, that's why there are messages on their back sides. Well, you know, we can assume the camera stayed alive somehow during a military strike, and so the video is intact. But the printed pictures? Printed on paper? During a bombarding of the city? I don't think so.


Writing on the back is for the marketing campaign only, won't be there when the whole file is released.

I'm just trying to make the dates match. I'd like to think this whole thing was not screwed up by something as simple as dates.

I'm not pushing my theory as absolutely the right one, just a possible one!


Or, the pictures with the writing on the back were found elsewhere. Maybe they were faxed to someone, or the they were left at the apartment, and, with a tactical nuke, so long as the monster's not too near it, the apartment lives.

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 		Re: Whoops.
LaNcEleCtriKuTion wrote:
starshiptrooper wrote:
LaNcEleCtriKuTion wrote:
Whoops. Maybe you guys forgot about the MySpaces.

Blog Entries :2007 THROUGH 2008!!!
ALSO, Rob states he's leaving in the middle of January.
Soo... are the Myspaces OOG now???
Or...
Are you guys wrong? (No offense, but I have to be the Devil's Advocate)


Consdering that the actress playing Marlena and Rob have both said that Marlena doesn't know the other characters, the myspace pages are either OOG, or the movie is.

Or, it's not a game, and the marketing people doing the myspace pages really didn't know what was going on.
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Hmm... I guess you're right. I guess people will have to imagine the dates are in May now... and that Rob is leaving in the middles of may instead of January.

Oh well. Which seems more professional- the Myspaces or the Movie itself??

(Rhetorical Question)


Heheh, of course it's gonna be sad as death to find out that the whole myspace fuzz was.. wrong. But you know, the "Myspace-Rob" is totally definitely saying that he is leaving in January. Here is the dialogue from http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=201275979&blogID=344665657&Mytoken=4B202769-774A-4CCF-BC25C82924E1A8C2148337358:

Rob that's crazy! How soon would you have to leave?
Posted by Lil on Saturday, January 05, 2008 at 3:11 PM

A few weeks, around the middle of the month they said.
Posted by Rob Hawkins on Saturday, January 05, 2008 at 3:12 PM

Great, now I'm starting to think half of the stuff found on the web is actually off the official game.
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 		Somebody will have to thoroughly interview JJ and Matt about all these incoincidences after the movie is officially out :)
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 		Has anything relative to the game came out of the myspace pages?

Jamie videos came from her name on the back of the pics
Slusho! came from the t-shirt in the teaser
Tagruato came from the japanese cook picture and the googling of Sea bed nectar.
Teddy came from the Jamie vids, which came from the pics.
TIDO wave came from the Tagruato hack.

Did anything really come from the myspace pages? Could they really have nothing to do with this?

They DID have the character names before we knew them... I don't know.
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 		Imagine the myspaces like this....they CAN'T change the dates on the pages. So they decided, forget it, we'll still do the myspace pages. Just imagine the myspaces pages leading up to May, not January and it makes sense. It's impossible to change the dates on the myspace pages, so that's why the dates are in todays world...but they really are leading up to MAY.

Then you have the Tagruato and TIDOwave sites......someone else want to explain this one?

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starshiptrooper wrote:
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Then again, if we assume somebody was timestamping the images as they were processed for the lawsuit file (and not found with the camera), why wouldn't they timestamp the other pictures as well? Why are the Rob's party pics the only pics stamped? No sense.



Other pics came from another source, not pulled from a video. No timestamp neede


Why would there be no timestamp needed? You're assembling the lawsuit file, and if you're marking the time on your clock at that moment, all of the pictures are the same to you. The only reason you would want to have timestamps on SOME of them is when the timestamps clearly depict the time those pictures were taken. Who in the world would need to know the precise time you were sitting at home at night, compiling the pictures into the case? :)
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Then you have the Tagruato and TIDOwave sites......someone else want to explain this one?


See post above yours.
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starshiptrooper wrote:
Has anything relative to the game came out of the myspace pages?

Jamie videos came from her name on the back of the pics
Slusho! came from the t-shirt in the teaser
Tagruato came from the japanese cook picture and the googling of Sea bed nectar.
Teddy came from the Jamie vids, which came from the pics.
TIDO wave came from the Tagruato hack.

Did anything really come from the myspace pages? Could they really have nothing to do with this?

They DID have the character names before we knew them... I don't know.


I do agree. The myspace is seeming to be off more and more.
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Why would there be no timestamp needed? You're assembling the lawsuit file, and if you're marking the time on your clock at that moment, all of the pictures are the same to you. The only reason you would want to have timestamps on SOME of them is when the timestamps clearly depict the time those pictures were taken. Who in the world would need to know the precise time you were sitting at home at night, compiling the pictures into the case? Smile

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The timestamps on the pics taken from Robs camera are when the images are pulled (See Chrizzy and the 9-11 post). The other pics might actually be "found" pictures that didn't have timestamps on them

The "Robs Cam" pics have different times on them because it took some time to get usable images from a camera found smashed 7 months later.

All good questions, this is only speculation, so keep any questions about this theory coming.
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Chrizzy wrote:
rocksmars wrote:
Nice theory but Reeves already stated that the case designate refers to the name the military gave to the whole incident with MGP.
It has nothing to do with a legal case.
It's a military investigation into the aftermath.

As for the site etc, I think that the site refers to where Rob, Beth and the camera are found. Site 447. There are probably hundreds of sites afterwards in Manhattan, if not thousands. The area formally known as Central Park simply gives a general area for where the site is located.

As to the time difference the explanation is very simple.
When they put out the date in the first trailer it was simply a marketing move to get people exited about the release date.
They filmed in spring or fall like conditions and the film was never to be set on 1-18-08. The date really means nothing but people got hung up on it, like the title, so they went with it. In the end they were left with the choice of changing the dates in the movie to match and having the 99% of people seeing the film, who are clueless about the ARE, be confused as to why the movie looks like spring but takes place in January or forgetting the ARE and leaving it as May. They chose the latter.

The ARE and the film simply don't match. If asked I'm sure they would say that the dates in the ARE simply had the most convenient dating and are meant to be viewed in relation to the dates in the film. In other words it's mid May in the ARE too, simply ignore the date shown.


Ever seen A Few Good Men?
The last I heard, military investigations were pretty much akin to court cases...just with fancier uniforms.


You are correct! However not all happen in a court room. Military investigations are treated exactly like a court case, collect evidence, interview witnesses, etc. Normally they are conducted to find out what went wrong and how to prevent the situation from happening again. Basically it is a learning tool. They are not conducted for the sole purpose of faulting an individual although it does happen in some cases. Larger investigations such as this would most likely be headed in the Pentagon (or possibly Cheyenne mountain if MGP were still at large, at least thats where you would find me).

BTW, it would not be the responsibility of military to bring a lawsuit against a corporation unless they breached a contract. That would depend on where the situation originated and what countries were involved. The United States Government (civil not armed forces) would more than likely be the ones who would do so. The military would only be used to collect evidence in a situation such as this.

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Headman wrote:
You are correct! However not all happen in a court room. Military investigations are treated exactly like a court case, collect evidence, interview witnesses, etc. Normally they are conducted to find out what went wrong and how to prevent the situation from happening again. Basically it is a learning tool. They are not conducted for the sole purpose of faulting an individual although it does happen in some cases. Larger investigations such as this would most likely be headed in the Pentagon (or possibly Cheyenne mountain if MGP were still at large, at least thats where you would find me).


lol You'd find me curled up in a corner at the back of NORAD, as well.

Btw, I just saw another movie ad...nothing new, though.

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 		Or the guys making the movie just showed a major flaw in their own story. Now that would be such a failure the world has never seen before :D

'Cause maybe the myspaces are official, so as the pictures on the website with the timestamps of 01/18. Then it's just the movie that shows it different.

And if we assume that it really IS the movie that is the ONLY thing messing up with the wrong dates, then all the other pieces fit into each other perfectly. See for yourself - on Tagruato website (dig deeper) it is stated that the Chuai station was going to be opened in September 2007. That is the fact already proving that the monster attacks DID NOT take place earlier. Then we have all those blog posts and news that are dated December and January, this January. And now the station is already destroyed, so as the ship in the latest picture. That means that MGP is already awake and is on its way to New York. And it can't take him 6 months to get there, it's definite that his attack has to take place on 01-18-2008. That's it.

That proves that the only thing out of the game is the movie.
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