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Bacon Army
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 		I have a question I need solved - does SBN have anything to do with MGP at all (I mean, even before the movie)? Because, watching that scene at the end, where
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MGP eats Hud
, I got the impression that MGP was either a carnivore or an omnivore. However, judging by the mouth structure (if you look at it, it has that mouth like the ogrefish from the Tidowave hack, like has been mentioned), I doubt it would ever be able to physically chow down on DSI, it being probably a seabed-based product. So does DSI even figure? If not, maybe it was a case of everything just being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

But then, where does it come from if that is case?

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badkarma
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 		I saw the film a couple of hours ago in Houston and I wasn't able to see anything fall into the sea during the final flashback scene.

I stayed through the credits, and heard some garbled speech at the very end, but it was complete gibberish to me.

The film was kind of good, but left me unfulfilled. It felt like a really long teaser trailer, not a complete film.

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badkarma
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Bacon Army wrote:
I have a question I need solved - does SBN have anything to do with MGP at all (I mean, even before the movie)? Because, watching that scene at the end, where
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MGP eats Hud
, I got the impression that MGP was either a carnivore or an omnivore. However, judging by the mouth structure (if you look at it, it has that mouth like the ogrefish from the Tidowave hack, like has been mentioned), I doubt it would ever be able to physically chow down on DSI, it being probably a seabed-based product. So does DSI even figure? If not, maybe it was a case of everything just being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

But then, where does it come from if that is case?


I can't say, Bacon. We'll have to add your question to the large pile of completely unexplained mysteries contained in this film!
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by the way, the creature didn't seem to really "eat" Hud, rather, the creature killed him (with it's mouth) and then dropped his carcass on the ground.


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I still suspect that the creature was intended to be an alien of some sort, but the filmmakers provided no explanation of it's origin...this frustrated me to a very large degree.


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Bacon Army
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badkarma wrote:
Bacon Army wrote:
I have a question I need solved - does SBN have anything to do with MGP at all (I mean, even before the movie)? Because, watching that scene at the end, where
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MGP eats Hud
, I got the impression that MGP was either a carnivore or an omnivore. However, judging by the mouth structure (if you look at it, it has that mouth like the ogrefish from the Tidowave hack, like has been mentioned), I doubt it would ever be able to physically chow down on DSI, it being probably a seabed-based product. So does DSI even figure? If not, maybe it was a case of everything just being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

But then, where does it come from if that is case?


I can't say, Bacon. We'll have to add your question to the large pile of completely unexplained mysteries contained in this film!
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by the way, the creature didn't seem to really "eat" Hud, rather, the creature killed him (with it's mouth) and then dropped his carcass on the ground.


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I still suspect that the creature was intended to be an alien of some sort, but the filmmakers provided no explanation of it's origin...this frustrated me to a very large degree.


I really liked the ambiguous ending, and the fact there was no origin story for Senore Grumpypantez. Made it a lot more real, rather than having a random exposition guy come in at 45 minutes to tell us all it's from outer space and we should be afraid and we must climb its back and stab it in the weak spot on the back of its neck, like a Colossus.

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That said, maybe that random Japanese guy was exposition master. Maybe he knew all of what was happening. Maybe he was Ganu - he did have the Javier Bardem haircut that we long attributed to Ganu.


Also, I disagree on the argument that
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The monster just killed Hud with his mouth. After all, why would he go at him with his mouth if he had no intent to eat? I think there was a large part of Hud's body missing - after all, we only saw his head, right?


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mitchellicious
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 		I saw the film today.

This is true. The scene in question is towards the end of the film.

The camera is looking out of a ferris wheel overlooking the ocean. To the far right of the screen, there is something that falls out of the sky into the water.

We get a hint of a splash as the camera pans back to Rob and Beth and then we get the final line "Today was a good day" from Beth.

THE END

NOTE: The thing that falls is a fair way out across the water and can't be made out, so all of this is speculation as to whether it is the monster or not.

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mitchellicious
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That said, maybe that random Japanese guy was exposition master. Maybe he knew all of what was happening. Maybe he was Ganu - he did have the Javier Bardem haircut that we long attributed to Ganu.


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I'd love to know what the Japanese guy was saying, I think he's the dealbreaker in this whole thing, or he was just sprouting nonsense . . . either way, i'd love to know


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crow
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 		I'm unfortunately seeing the movie on sunday, BUT i will definitely watch out for these certain things. Just because the movie doesn't mention DSI or slusho or Tag, doesn't mean it won't give nods to the VMC.
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I'm gonna go with the theory of the satellite piece falling,


The movie is supposed to be able to give the people who haven't followed the VMC the same opportunity to enjoy the movie just as much as those who have been following it, this is just the bridge in the story as far as i'm concerned. We know the middle now, we just need the beginning and how it ends, if it does.

We'll just have to continue on with this until it gives us some answers, IE, the manga and such. Im still betting that this campaign goes on until May.[/spoiler]

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taiheung
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 		I had to join the forum simply to say:
It was AWESOME to see how much you guys trashed the OP of this thread in the beginning, and then after all that it turned out he...

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was right. Laughing

I came on to google to find out what the hell it was I saw in the last scene, yes, the last scene is from old tape and just before it comes back to her last line "I had a good day today" (90% accurate) it's a shot of the water and a large object splashes down into the ocean in the distance. Barely noticeable HOWEVER, there is also a ship in that scene to give some perspective as to how large the splash was - and it was huge. As another poster said, it was a very stream lined entry into the water but it was quite a large, vertical splash.


The original tape gives away a chunk of the background story. To anyone who watches this movie, PLEASE keep your brain switched on unlike the friend I saw it with. THINK and you won't miss anything.

Another interesting spoiler/thought:
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Anyone watch Futuruma? Think 'Slurm'. The Slusho website reminds me very much of Slurm, lol. It also mentions crazily addictive properties such as the ability to "not be able to drink just 6'. ha. In the movie, the guy makes a comment about it spraying some kind of liquid I think. However I can't remember if this was in reference to the 'baby' aliens.


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oxymorgan
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 		I too saw the splash, tell everyone who is seeing it this weekend to keep an eye out for it. We need some solid proof.

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im a lion, AND im huge
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 		is there any theories that perhaps some space bacteria came down inside of the satellite and mutated with sea life? JJ said MGP was down there for thousands of years but maybe not always that form of him. i mean with continents shifting and whatnot he'd have to be very deep even under the sea floor to not be disturbed until now. i still take ease in the fact that JJ will convey the whole story somehow A la the animatrix and comics.

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imnutty
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 		The past few days i have been very lost
im hopeing some one can help me out without flameing

The attack is supposably happening before 1-18-08?
on May which is Many months ago?

The scene at the end cuts from the attack and goes to a scene of them on top of a ferris wheel which is suppose to be like OLD footage on the tape??

So that means that something fell in the water even before MAY??!?!?!?
This shit attacked 2 years ago!?!? lol Some 1 clear this up for me plz

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taiheung
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 		To make sense of it, if the date 18.01.08 means anything - it's:

a) the date the film is released to most countries
b) the date the film is found.

at the beginning of the film it clearly states that the tape is recovered evidence, so both the april & may dates on the film are from over 7-8 months ago.

I don't think there's anything in the movie to suggest it happend 2 years ago? There is an early scene where they're at a party and they've got a song playing on the stereo (it isn't over the top of the scene, it's integrated), the song I believe hit popularity around 2007 which would be a good indicator as to what year the original tape is set in.

ps. MAJOR product placement in some scenes. It is so awkward.
They may as well stop the movie at some points and play commercials it's that bad.

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dwn4whadever
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 		I new here and i have been up since 1:48am (when i got home from the midnight show) I have been trying to dig up any kinda info into what went on in that movie. I see anything at the coney scene but i wasnt really looking.
Can anyone please tell me what the Hatsui Satellite has to do with the movie. Was this some kinda fake article that they put out to hype the movie or was it spoken about during the movie. I also saw a video clip some where on the net about a oil rig being wrecked. Can anyone shed some light on this for me.... And yes i did use the search feature here i still didnt fint what i was looking for.

Thanks in Advance.

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 		Something DOES land in the ocean. And the "random Japanese guy" is not japanese. He's Russian, and he's speaking Russian. It lists him in the credits as "Russian guy"
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dwn4whadever
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starshiptrooper wrote:
Something DOES land in the ocean. And the "random Japanese guy" is not japanese. He's Russian, and he's speaking Russian. It lists him in the credits as "Russian guy"


But when do they talk about the that Satellite, WHat russian guy are you talking about.... I might have to go back and see it again cause i dont know how i missed all this stuff.

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