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[SPOILERS] Creature drawing
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Cthulhu
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bruceford w. bangoe wrote:
im just glad i will never hear...."its godzilla!! ZOMG!!" or... "DUDE TEH MONSTER IS CTHULU!!" ever again.

Yes. Thank Me that no one will.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:04 am
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xboyonfirex
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Its like a mixture between:




just all freaky and mutated



PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:13 am
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Cole
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yep, I saw that drawing on 1-18-08news.com.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:15 am
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mitchellicious
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Spoiler (Rollover to View):
The thing is extremely hard to get a good look at as it moves at a fast speed. It's also very unique and extremely hard to describe. It doesn't resemble anything remotely close to a living creature. The only thing I can slightly compare it to is a Chimera from the game Resistance: Fall of Man on the PS3.

The heli scene and the scene with Hud getting eaten are the best to see it in, although it is dark and many of its features are hard to make out.

Is it just me, or did it seem like it had little craters all over its body. From the view from the heli scene, it looked like it had a bunch of little holes all over it, but I'm not too sure.


PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:17 am
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DaMirrorLink
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Spoiler (Rollover to View):
the holes in the complexion may have occurred when the military was blasting it over and over with firepower



also unfiction has been really laggy...

PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:48 am
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MikeI
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The tail looks wrong and the rear legs are totally wrong. The monster's rear legs in the movie were much more stubby and less spider-like.


PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:55 am
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ScubaSteve1717
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let me apologize to matt_the_pale in advance

but in terms of elbows the second one seems right, its elbows were almost above its head when it was walking, they were definitely inverted like that though and i dont think it was so level, its front legs looked alot larger then its back which would obviously make it taller in the front

it actually reminded me of a bat...a large bat without wings

PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:43 am
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Sanfam
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Amusing how close similar messages manage to fall. I was going to reply with roughly the same statement as the post above. The design of the arms seemed to be more like that of a wingless bat than anything else. THe creature's gait matched what one sees in our winged mammal friends, as well, and the hands appeared to be exceptionally similar, though drastically elongated. Visualize the creature while on four legs with elbows pointed forward a good distance, perhaps just over half the creature's total height, and then turning down at nearly a right angle with arms that were almost as tall as the creature itself (three quarters to five sixth total height in four-legged stance). I couldn't catch if the hands curled inwards or bent outward when standing as such, but this all accounts for its enormous reach and notable speed and relative agility. Another thing to consider is that our one shot of the creature standing still offered us evidence that the upper arms are fairly robust and come off to the sides at a fifteen degree angle or so, and that the lower arms are also fairly "triangular" in form when viewed from the side but somewhat even in terms of width when viewed head-on.

It seems like a creature designed to traverse regions of massively uneven terrain where enormous variations in reach are necessary. At full stretch, I wouldn't imagine it being too difficult for it to be as tall as some buildings. But due to the squared off nature of its walking stance, it could also maintain a much more manageable size for easier snacking as viewed later in the film. Though I can't quite figure out where the smaller creatures could have hidden. They seemed to be falling off all over the place, so they must have had pores in the skin or hidden under layers of flesh, scales, or some form of material that we'd not likely be able to see.

Your drawing of the head seems to be similar enough to what we saw, if a bit elongated, and the tail end appears to more or less match, but something doesn't sit right with the rear legs. I'd need to see the film agan and give it a view.

If any improvements need to be made to the face, I'd start by suggesting that you compress the face inward just a small amount but in a way that allows its snout to continue existing. It's a bit difficult to get specifics as our angles were a bit poor and the camera was set to *very* wide angle views contrasting with very telephoto-heavy shots. Those midrange scenes were just far too poor to remember the details. :p Hope this proves of use.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:22 am
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Trixx
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i think it was pretty close

in the first time i saw it...i dont think there were many times you saw mgp long enough to be able to take it all in. I mean...and i was trying to pay attention to all these other things in the movie...

yeah anyway....i think that drawing is a fairly close representationof the monster. I dunno bout the fish tail though...I know the tip of the tail was a bit out of shape compared to the lengthy part of it...but i dunno if thats what it was...

by the way...i have a question

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the part where mgp smashes the bridge and Hawk dies...i swear it looked like the bridge was hit with what looked like a tentacle with suckers (like an octopus). I couldn't see a tentacle on him the rest of the movie...so the only conclusion I could make was that possibly the tail had suckers on its underside? Did anyone else notice that?


PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:35 am
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Sanfam
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I believe what you may have seen were not suckers, but rather colored patterns and/or light interacting with skin/bone textures. It's hard to say, but I'll keep an eye on it for future viewings. the whole sequence is very fast and hard to focus on.

One more note, I'm not entirely sure what the tail's end shape is, actually, but I think it might have had an oval fin (think Eel) rather than a forked fin.

I'd strongly suggest everyone look into the walking styles of large-winged bats for a good real-world example of how we saw this creature moving. It just so happened that I saw a show on the friendly little creatures this evening which spurred the connection.

It's also interesting how the facial features seem to be a hybrid of various reptiles, insects, sea creatures, and said bats. Just add some ears and it'll look a great deal more natural. :p

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Trixx
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ok thanks. I'm seeing it again tonight so i'll have a look...

anything else i should look out for

PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:16 am
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Sanfam
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Well first, enjoy it. Second, just keep an eye out for the creature's shape, its characteristics, and check back if you wish. Refute or support any claims that may already exist and generally raise hell with new ideas that were likely ignored in this thread. :p

PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:22 am
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carlosos
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Those front legs are simply impossible, they would crack down in any large animal. I don't know how they could come up with that.

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FromTheDeep
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Trixx wrote:
ok thanks. I'm seeing it again tonight so i'll have a look...

anything else i should look out for


Ya could you try to find out what the fuck the word "Cloverfield" has to do with the plot of the movie. If its really only the name of the street the studio is on in santa monica my head will explode because that is soooo lame.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:09 am
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Trixx
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ok...first of all...even trying to pay attention to details...i still loved the movie just as much as the first one (although it seemed to go quicker haha...but oh well)

Ok... so where to begin. I'll start with MGP (the big monster)


  • He does look very much like the drawing at the begining of this thread
    http://bp1.blogger.com/_0Ci5St96ygw/R42wSurgGQI/AAAAAAAAAFY/dlyNcYr45gE/s1600-h/cloverfieldsketch2043.jpg

  • The head does look a little rough and bumpy on top like in this picture. Well...it does when they are in the helicopter looking down on it...but in all the scenes from the street (where they are looking up at it) it looks quite round. It definitely looked roundish a number of times. The rest of the head looks pretty spot on. The eyes are positioned pretty right...same as the red gill things.

  • When it opened its mouth to roar...it opened quite wide. In some ways, it kinda looked snakeish. Not completely...just a little, maybe it was bcoz of the fangs. It definitely had teeth that looked like fangs...they were larger than the rest of the teeth. You know what else it reminded me of slightly when it opened its mouth to roar...the humanoid alien in alien resurrection. The face not really...but their shape mouths when they roar are similar...here is a link
    http://members.iinet.net.au/~jaherne/alienhost/xenomorph/alienchild.jpg

  • the front arms are very similar. Its joints are EXACTLY the same as the drawing...thats why MGP is able to bend down and look so close to
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    HUD when he gets eaten

    The fingers are also exactly the same as in the drawing...however...I do think the front arms are a bit longer. maybe even quite a bit

  • it does have arms on its underbelly that look just like they do in the drawing. I saw at least 6 pairs of two...but there easily could've been 8 or 10. You get a close up look at 1 pair of them when
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    MGP eats HUD


  • It definitely does not have a shell.

  • Its skin looked slimy quite a bit...like an ocean creature would, kind of like it would feel a bit like an octopus, but a bit more dense...but at times I wasn't sure if it was really slimy, it could have just been looking that way because it had come from the water...not too sure

  • the back legs are pretty much the same in the drawing. He does stand up on them (although it is not clear whether he leans on buildings while doing so). and he definitely can jump with them to great heights
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    when he bites the helicopter
    much like a frog I would assume.

  • the tail tip is oval like. (sanfam you were correct). Like an eel. Even the way the tail moved through the air it moved like an eel. The tail movements through the air seemed very aquatic...it seemed to float or glide as if it was still underwater. As for when it hit the bridge...I'm still undecided. It did look very tentacle like...and i my first thought was yep, definitely has suckers. But then it moved a bit and i was like...hold on, not so sure now. So it could have suckers or it may have just been the light...i can't decide.


OK. That was a looooot of info...so I might put the rest of my answers in a second post so you don't just look at this and think cbf reading that. That is ALL my extra info on MGP...

in the next post I will mention the little monsters, the cloverfield reference (or lack of) and whatever else!

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