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[SEEN IT] So, I went to the paramount screening tonight...
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LC_from_The_Hills
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[SEEN IT] So, I went to the paramount screening tonight...
Who's got questions?

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SLUSHO AND TAGRUATO ARE NOT MENTIONED ONCE.
NO ONE EVEN SAYS THESE WORDS.

NO ONE DRINKS SLUSHO OR MENTIONS IT.

Although, people congratulate rob about his Vice President position, but they DO NOT say "Slusho vice president" or anything like that. They just know he's got a job in Japan.

SLUSHO DOESN'T MAKE PEOPLE EXPLODE

The Tagruato logo on the tanker is only noticeable to people who know where to look (i.e. people on this forum will kinda see it).

Jamie's in the movie for maybe 2-3 seconds (at Rob's party), she's passed out on the couch, so she doesn't even say a single word.

Here's something pretty odd:

The events DO NOT take place on January 18th
The going away party/monster attack take place from MAY 22nd to the morning of MAY 23rd (ENDS EXACTLY AT 6:42AM). The year is unknown.

Technically, the movie "begins" APRIL 27th at 6:42AM with Rob filming Beth the morning after they had sex in her father's apartment (her dad was gone). Rob and Beth discuss going to coney island because Beth's never been, idiotically, hud doesn't swap tapes and films over this intimate day with the events of May 22-23, so scenes from April 27th intermittently cut in and out of the movie
The ironic thing is that the film starts with Rob filming the view of central park exactly at 6:42 AM and ends with Rob and Beth possibly, but most certainly, dying 6:42 AM in central park.

At first, I thought the dates were a typo (like, when you don't properly set the date/time on a camera) but in Rob's final speech, he acknowledges the date of May 23rd.

The monster isn't green, it's grey.
-It has 4 legs and 2 really small, crab-like legs on it's torso (the crab legs might've been vestigial).
-It's approx. 30-40 stories tall (Rob/Lil/Hud climb up Beth's building (59th floor) where she is impaled on some metal thing, after saving her, they see the monster walking down the street, monster is significantly shorter than 50 stories).
-It's front "arms" are "backwards" (as if you're elbows protruded in front of you) The arms are pretty long.
-It has 3 LONG fingers on each hand (like, index finger middle finger and thumb.
-Has 2 back legs, walks upright, but it appears that the front "arms" are significantly longer than the back legs.
-Has a long tail.
-Human-like head.
-Has these 2 red, puffing (possibly lungs) lobes on it's head. It's jaw looks like a bulldog (where it's "fangs" are over it's lips)

The hazmat people are NOT tagruato (well, no Tag logo other than the tanker is shown throughout the entire movie).

The little monsters look nearly identical to the black/yellow bugs from starship troopers, but they're between knee and waist height.

Jason dies pretty quickly into the movie (the bridge scene). Then Marlena dies from the little monster (here's something frustrating, while in the subway Lil/Rob/Hud/Marlena are ALL attacked by the little monsters but only Marlena is bitten. Seems like a writers flaw that only marlena was bitten)

The monster's origins ARE NOT explained, although Hud makes some comedic minor speculations throughout the movie.
Hud actually provided some decent comedic relief throughout the movie as well.


Overall, I thought the movie was pretty great (meaning that I'd buy it on DVD if it was under 40$ or watch it if it came on HBO).
The sound was absolutely fantastic and the army scenes were pretty good.
The "action" doesn't start untill approx. 30 min in.
You never see the monster as a whole, but you do see it, if that makes any sense.
There are a couple cliche scenes.
The monster and little monsters were pretty cool.
The movie felt short (approx. 90 min), but that's a good thing.
The POV camera was a bit annoying (i.e. during scenes where the characters were running).

Comments, concerns, criticisms, and skepticisms are all welcome.

I'll be taking any and all questions, folks.

Edit: more fitting tag.

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oh man...im so tempted to read it!

edit: did they give the monster a real name?

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What about the exploding woman?

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Wow...thanks for that!!

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TVRotBrain wrote:
What about the exploding woman?


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Marlena was bitten (surprisingly the only one bitten amongst the group) by one of the little monsters.

The medic station (connected to the subway, outfitted from a shopping mall) acknowledged that she was bitten. She's hustled off and, well, explodes ONLY BLOOD behind the curtain. At this point, Hud, who has taken a keen interest in Marlena, begins crying.

That scene was creepy because you see:
-A dead person hauled off on a stretcher with his stomach blown wide open.
-A little monster (possibly dead) caged up in a glass case (for studying? maybe finding an antidote? It was never made clear).


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I'm not saying this is false, but there would be some serious continuity problems, just with the
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time of the events specifically the dates
, but alot of these things seem to be have said in the recent production notes. but as i said im not here to discredit, im just keeping this with a large grain of salt.


http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=201275979&blogID=344665657

refer to here, in the comments. i don't want to give any of the spoilers away in the post.

All things seem very plausible but just the
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time of events (dates)
seem to bother me, either way very cool.

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Thanks LC - You should probably "Spoiler" your response.

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The
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May22 23

stuff doesn't make any sense to me. Everything has lead up using real time dates...and suddenly it's..
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the 22 and 23 of May?


Anyway, so is the monster like thick? Or is it a skinny thing?

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crow wrote:
I'm not saying this is false, but there would be some serious continuity problems, just with the
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
time of the events specifically the dates
, but alot of these things seem to be have said in the recent production notes. but as i said im not here to discredit, im just keeping this with a large grain of salt.


http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=201275979&blogID=344665657

refer to here, in the comments. i don't want to give any of the spoilers away in the post.

All things seem very plausible but just the
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
time of events (dates)
seem to bother me, either way very cool.


I completely agree.

This was my biggest problem with the film.

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If this game is supposed to take place "real time" why would the dates change? It's flawed especially with the heavy emphasis on 1-18-08.

I asked my friend about the significance of the date in reference to the movie, he said it was mostly marketing because so many people had been hyped into it because of the damn transformers teaser


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Cookson wrote:
The
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May22 23

stuff doesn't make any sense to me. Everything has lead up using real time dates...and suddenly it's..
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the 22 and 23 of May?


Anyway, so is the monster like thick? Or is it a skinny thing?


See above post to answer the
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time
issue.

Actually, it's torso is kinda short and thin, but it's front arms are pretty thick. It's back feet are thick as well. Kinda like a gorilla (?) I can't think of an appropriate animal.

If someone can find me the fan art/monster-look spec thread (because I can't for the life of me find it on the search) I can show you an accurate representation.

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Don't know if you saw my post. Is the monster thick? Or is it a skinny monster?

If you could give us an even more detailed description of the monster...it would be most appreciated.

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well maybe the ARE will carry on afterwards, and explain what happened in the

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missing time frame, kinda like a pre movie accordance of events

time will only tell. it is JJ so we never really know what the hell is going on.

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Yeah but Rob said in his myspace page that he leaves for Japan in the middle of January..... Confused

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Cookson wrote:
Don't know if you saw my post. Is the monster thick? Or is it a skinny monster?

If you could give us an even more detailed description of the monster...it would be most appreciated.


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It's face is human/snake-like.
Slit nose, 2 slit-ish black eyes, 2 upper and 2 lower "fangs" protrude over it's "lips" like a bulldog (haha).
Round, bald head. It actually looks like a combo of Voldemort and a Bulldog haha.

It's got a somewhat short-looking torso, the tail makes it look way longer. The tail is definitely longer than the length of the torso, neck, and head.

The front arms are "backwards" where the elbows come out in front. Three REALLY slender and REALLY long fingers on each hand (like a "grey" alien) The arms appear MUCH thicker than it's legs. At one point, it appears to walk like a gorilla using it's front arms to propel itself, but it mostly appears to walk on it's back legs (mostly when it's being shot). It moves kinda fast, but not overly fast.

It's surprisingly short (on it's back legs, but with it's arms outstretched it has the capability to be really, really tall) and not as wide as you might think. I think it's no more than 35 stories tall (because Beth is trapped in her apartment impaled on a piece of metal, and the monster walks by/beside/underneath the building after Hud, Lil, and Rob get her out. Beth's apartment is on like the 59th floor (?) The last numbered floor I remember seeing is 57 and they were still going up).

In the scene where it kills Hud, it appears to have red "lungs" on it's head that puff in and out as if it's breathing, creepy.

The legs are slender too, but the feet are THICK and stump like, bigger than one of the tanks it steps on.

Overall, the monster is a dark grey.


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Cookson wrote:
Yeah but Rob said in his myspace page that he leaves for Japan in the middle of January..... Confused


Flawed, right? Mad

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