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Some Thing wrote:
cloverlove wrote:
I dunno if anyone posted this but Reeves basically confirmed that it's the monster that falls into the ocean.

http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/01/18/where-do-cloverfield-monsters-come-from/

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Where did the Cloverfield Monster come from? Japan? The ocean near an offshore drilling site (as hinted by the viral)? Not so according to director Matt Reeves, who supposedly told Film School Rejects that an easter egg within the film tells of the Monster's origins. Apparently in the background of the footage that HUD had taped over, when Rob and Beth were at Coney Island, "something suspicious" drops into the water.


Well JJA and Reeves better get on the same page.
-JJ says the creature has been on the bottom of the ocean for 1000's of years.
-Reeves is suggesting that the creature fell from the sky.

Which is it fellas?!


Word of God's a bitch.

I still think it came from the sea, IMO. I mean, if MGP came from space and landed near Coney Island, a) it'd create a wave that'd probably flood Coney Island, and b) why would MGP go all the way out to Chuai and back in one month? I think the satellite may actually be a symbol. Both TJ and Reeves say (I'm generalising with Reeves' comment) it's a clue - perhaps it's just showing that, like the satellite, MGP came from space? Or maybe it's just really bad temporal distortion - one earth month is 100,000 years wherever MGP comes from, and he grew fast.

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 		I Cannot Stress To You
How disappointing it would be if it had fell from space. First of all, I saw that thing at the end, and if you look hard enough you CAN make a definite argument for it being the monster. However, There is no way it would have survived a fall from space. First of all, the monster was kind of squishy... didn't look like it was made of metal at all or any particularly hard surface. The only monsters I can think of who have ever survived a fall from space I think all turned out to be King Gidorah (in some way or another... ) And King Gidorah is covered in metal plates. I know that's kind of random, but it was the only reference I could think of right now... It makes more sense that it's the satellite. Now how the satellite fits in with summoning the monster I can't even begin to make a clear case for. For a second I was entertaining the idea that maybe it fell all the way to the bottom and hit the monster in the head (or something to that effect). But I don't know, is the water around Coney Island that deep? Is that even possible? That's a lot of ocean.

Now if it had been an asteroid that fell into the ocean then I could see it being the monster inside. It could catch a ride somehow, or could have been inside the satellite... but I think they would have remembered if they'd have been keeping something like that in a satellite for whatever reason. And of course, there'd probably be a scientist somewhere elbowing another going "doesn't that thing look kind of... familiar?"

I'm just speculating, but, personally I don't think it makes sense y'know?

But... I guess in the end it doesn't really even have to does it?

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 		I just got that flash video the person mentioned before.. I have it zoomed in on the part where you are supposed to see it and I see nothing, so its either really far away.. small, or its not there.

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 		Honestly...
ximfinity wrote:
I just got that flash video the person mentioned before.. I have it zoomed in on the part where you are supposed to see it and I see nothing, so its either really far away.. small, or its not there.



Oh no. No, no, no. It's definitely there. Now, whether you'd be able to see it if someone posted it on youtube is debatable. Imagine a small blurry dark object falling into the ocean... ON YOUTUBE. Yeah, you probably can't see it because the video quality sucks. But believe me, it's there.

*that is, unless you meant he put up the wrong part of the movie

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 		I agee that it might be hard to see, but my point is if it were the monster, it should be easily seen if its right next to a boat, the thing was about the size of the statue of liberty, im pretty sure it would hit the water like a bomb.

If there is something, I would buy the satellite theory much more.

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Some Thing wrote:
cloverlove wrote:
I dunno if anyone posted this but Reeves basically confirmed that it's the monster that falls into the ocean.

http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/01/18/where-do-cloverfield-monsters-come-from/

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Where did the Cloverfield Monster come from? Japan? The ocean near an offshore drilling site (as hinted by the viral)? Not so according to director Matt Reeves, who supposedly told Film School Rejects that an easter egg within the film tells of the Monster's origins. Apparently in the background of the footage that HUD had taped over, when Rob and Beth were at Coney Island, "something suspicious" drops into the water.


Well JJA and Reeves better get on the same page.
-JJ says the creature has been on the bottom of the ocean for 1000's of years.
-Reeves is suggesting that the creature fell from the sky.

Which is it fellas?!
what if it fell from the sky and sank to the ocean depth's 1000's of years ago? the body looked like this

http://www.colemuseum.rdg.ac.uk/spidercrab.JPG

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 		I think I like the idea more of how it could be prehistoric. It looked pretty dinosaurish in certain ways. Think about this, Earth has places in the ocean that are too deep for human discovery, but other creatures can infact survive down there (ie Marianas Trench in the Pacific Ocean) however I dont think it came from there because that would require it to go across the Pacific, through the Indian Ocean, and up the Atlantic to get to NY, so I doubt it would make a trip that far to attack a specific US city where it could just go to Tokyo and unleash hell there.

But there have to be plenty of other places in the Atlantic, both north and south, that are deep enough to mask away this creature for thousands of years. It definitely looked more like a sea monster, and not some extra terrestrial monster, though it did have ET qualities as well. Its babies definitely looked crab-like. (Look at the spider crab that dwell in the Pacific).

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 		All is know, is that I heard with my own ears, TJ Miller state, that in the last scene of the movie there is the clue to the monsters origin.

The guys from the radio show did not say what it is, but they acknowledge that one of them caught it. TJ heard the statement, and said no more.

I have the file of the entire show in a podcast, but its four hours long, and I have no idea how to extract clips from it and post it up. If anyone wants to do the footwork, let me know. Its actually really funny all the shit they talk about. So, im going with Monster until someone comes out and clears the whole thing up.

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Some Thing wrote:
cloverlove wrote:
I dunno if anyone posted this but Reeves basically confirmed that it's the monster that falls into the ocean.

http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/01/18/where-do-cloverfield-monsters-come-from/

Quote:
Where did the Cloverfield Monster come from? Japan? The ocean near an offshore drilling site (as hinted by the viral)? Not so according to director Matt Reeves, who supposedly told Film School Rejects that an easter egg within the film tells of the Monster's origins. Apparently in the background of the footage that HUD had taped over, when Rob and Beth were at Coney Island, "something suspicious" drops into the water.


Well JJA and Reeves better get on the same page.
-JJ says the creature has been on the bottom of the ocean for 1000's of years.
-Reeves is suggesting that the creature fell from the sky.

Which is it fellas?!


What Reeves reportedly said was that "you can see a hint of where the monster comes from". http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/exclusive-we-know-where-the-cloverfield-monster-came-from.php

That doesn't say it came from space; it could also be pointing to the sea.

Miller says "Really pay attention to the last scene of the movie also, because there is a clue as to where to creature really comes from." Again, that's not specific; it could still mean it comes from the sea.

Abrams, however, said specifically that its been under the sea for thousands of years.

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 		mind-fuck anyone?

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xboyonfirex wrote:
mind-fuck anyone?


LOL; I would expect a fair amount of misdirection from official sources at this point.

They have to be just a little bit frosted with the online community since TB had the reverse message figured out more than eight hours before the movie was actually released.

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 		Exactly.

Seems to me that Abrams would be best served with myriad thoughts on the beast's origin, and many other aspects of the flik. He ain't dumb, he wants you back.

The thing surely could not have grown to its size in a single month. If that "egg" at the end was indeed a Cloverdale beast it was a second or third one in baby form. Not that I buy that because too much about the beast resembled a sea creature. If it was supposed to look alien I'm sure it would have looked more like "Alien" and less like a very large scorpian with crabs (ha!).

My thoughts, for whatever they're worth:

Forget about the backwards, upsidedown static at the end. Of course there will be remake. Abrams left enough moviegoers disappointed in the film's ending that he pretty much HAS to do it again. My theatre let out a collective "Whaaat?"

I can understand the varying versions of the beast now. Never was given a real good look at it, and I was in a good theatre. If you haven't seen the movie, expect to see some great shots without actually being to define it clearly. The only available GIF looks too humanoid, which the beast definitely is not. The trailer is closer.

Made zero sense for the beast to be in the park while the armed forces were assumably bombing it in Manhatten, miles away. That was dumb.

The movie I saw had no orange plume from a bombing at the end. There was a mention of a bombing to take place, and than Beth and Rob were buried in debris. Nothing in between.

Almost one year of hype deserved better. A good movie but not one I would see again. Not in the theatre, anyway. I'll definitely get the hi-res DVD so I can see a few scenes Hud did not allow me.

What else. Hmmmmm....

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 		Beth and Hud,,, obviously.

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 		This is buggin me!!!
Ok. How about this:

The satellite falls from the sky and splashes into the Atlantic, according to the Tagruato site.

But, on this satellite lies the cause of a mutated sea creature.

For example, a species or parasite from space that may have become attached to the satellite, or a space virus of some kind. Something that could mutate or bring to life a creature on the ocean floor.

OR, and my new favorite(!), the satellite contains the hiding place for the DSI. One that Tagruato thought no one would ever find... On a satellite in space, far from the reach of TIDO.

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 		Re: This is buggin me!!!
mistermunky69 wrote:
Ok. How about this:

The satellite falls from the sky and splashes into the Atlantic, according to the Tagruato site.

But, on this satellite lies the cause of a mutated sea creature.

For example, a species or parasite from space that may have become attached to the satellite, or a space virus of some kind. Something that could mutate or bring to life a creature on the ocean floor.

OR, and my new favorite(!), the satellite contains the hiding place for the DSI. One that Tagruato thought no one would ever find... On a satellite in space, far from the reach of TIDO.
well the satillite could have gotten radiation from falling through the atmosphere. but i think that radiation is just heat. not the kind which mutates things.

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