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[SPOILER] Could the dark object falling into the ocean...
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Re: This is buggin me!!!

mistermunky69 wrote:
Ok. How about this:

The satellite falls from the sky and splashes into the Atlantic, according to the Tagruato site.

But, on this satellite lies the cause of a mutated sea creature.

For example, a species or parasite from space that may have become attached to the satellite, or a space virus of some kind. Something that could mutate or bring to life a creature on the ocean floor.

OR, and my new favorite(!), the satellite contains the hiding place for the DSI. One that Tagruato thought no one would ever find... On a satellite in space, far from the reach of TIDO.


The satellite was owned by the Japanese government so the last one doesn't work too well.

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irishman
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Here's a pic of the object hitting the water
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you *really* cant see anything in that picture.
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NO! not true!
you can see a tiny, little, itty-bitty, minescule, microscopic splash on the far right of the water
but you have to know what you're looking for to see it

but youre right its pretty much nothing

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^ agree to both, it's around the cruise ship. For some reason, i knew to look in that direction first time i saw it, everyone was just saying, look at the water look at the water.!!!

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^ agreed as well, it seems like followers of the arg knew something else had to be coming at the end, cuz the only people ive talked to who saw it has been interested in the arg including myself

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So what about when JJ Abrams was interviewed and he confirmed that the monster had been living in the deep sea for thousands of years?

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def saw it hitting the ocean

Don't know of this has been completely confirmed yet, but I went to the movie today, it was my second time seeing it,so I knew what to look for.

I definitely saw the item fall into the water, near yet past the boat that's out there. A guest with me saw it too.

I also noticed something else this time:
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You can see the monster for a split second when the camera is tossed about when they are dragging Rob out of the helicopter. He's just standing there watching them. That would explain why you didn't hear him walk up. He must have arrived there while they were unconscious.


By the way: you can tell from my review that I really enjoyed this movie. Well, I liked it even more the second time seeing it. I knew where to look, what to expect, and I noticed more. The monster is really in it alot, and you get some fierce face closeups several times through the movie, they just happen fast. I can't explain why, becuase they are sort of ho-hum characters, but I enjoyed them more this time too.

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Whatever hit the ocean, it was way out there.
It looks closer than it really is because of the long-angle perspective of the view.

I kinda like the idea of seeing the creature fall out of the sky a month before the attack.
What I don't like about it is that it pretty much invalidates most of the backstory.

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Re: I Cannot Stress To You

The Stray wrote:
First of all, the monster was kind of squishy... didn't look like it was made of metal at all or any particularly hard surface.


It could withstand
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whatever they dropped on it as their "final plan"
so the chance that it could survive a fall form space is plausible

besides that, I'm sure it's been mentioned, but I cant see it coming from only the ocean because it has arms and legs, and fingers, things which don't usually denote a seafaring creature,

also having it be a sea creature doesn't really leave much in terms of story. Unless their is some unknown giant sea creature civilization or something, its not like if they find out its from the depths that technology is going to shoot ahead a few years and allow them to go down and check.

maybe this is just me being hopeful, but JJ abrams seems to be all about making people think, and it being from space could go in so many directions, however if it was from the ocean it could raise just as many question, like just what really is down their, either way, i'm hooked

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YippeeKaiMOFO wrote:
Exactly.

Seems to me that Abrams would be best served with myriad thoughts on the beast's origin, and many other aspects of the flik. He ain't dumb, he wants you back.

The thing surely could not have grown to its size in a single month. If that "egg" at the end was indeed a Cloverdale beast it was a second or third one in baby form. Not that I buy that because too much about the beast resembled a sea creature. If it was supposed to look alien I'm sure it would have looked more like "Alien" and less like a very large scorpian with crabs (ha!).

My thoughts, for whatever they're worth:

Forget about the backwards, upsidedown static at the end. Of course there will be remake. Abrams left enough moviegoers disappointed in the film's ending that he pretty much HAS to do it again. My theatre let out a collective "Whaaat?"

I can understand the varying versions of the beast now. Never was given a real good look at it, and I was in a good theatre. If you haven't seen the movie, expect to see some great shots without actually being to define it clearly. The only available GIF looks too humanoid, which the beast definitely is not. The trailer is closer.

Made zero sense for the beast to be in the park while the armed forces were assumably bombing it in Manhatten, miles away. That was dumb.

The movie I saw had no orange plume from a bombing at the end. There was a mention of a bombing to take place, and than Beth and Rob were buried in debris. Nothing in between.

Almost one year of hype deserved better. A good movie but not one I would see again. Not in the theatre, anyway. I'll definitely get the hi-res DVD so I can see a few scenes Hud did not allow me.

What else. Hmmmmm....


Where do I start?

First off, there hasn't been "almost one year" of hype. And it was a GREAT movie. Anyone bitching should be summarily exeucuted. Period. I don't care about this "in my opinion" crap. If you didn't like the movie, sorry, your opinion is wrong.

Also, just because you didn't see an orange plume from "Hammerdown" at the end doesn't mean Manhattan wasn't obliterated. Also, the camera was focused on the bridge Rob and Beth were hiding in. How can the camera film the explosion you demand as proof while simultaneously being in their possession? That's right, it can't.

If the monster isn't from earth, it can grow as fast as it wants. An creature of extraterrestrial origins has no reason to develop, think, or reason as any earth-based creatures do. It's lifecycle could be radically different from any creature on this planet. Similar to the way some insects progress from larva to "adult" in days or weeks.

I love how apparently you're so omniscient, you know that EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL in your theatre was OH SO disappointed. Ha. Funny. You must explain to me the origin of this fantastic power you possess.

Even if your theatre was disappointed (which most likely indicates lack of understanding) that doesn't mean anyone HAS to make a sequel or some sort of "other" Cloverfield movie. Sure, rumors are floating about, but disappointment is hardly a reason for them to "remake" the movie.

Your arguments are flawed, and you seem to WANT to dislike the movie. Also, remaking Cloverfield or making any sequel would be a terrible idea. Anyone who really appreciates Cloverfield would know that.

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i dont see how making a sequel is a terrible idea, they want to tell a story, they just set it up basically with this movie, sure the stuff on the internet is filling things in, but it doesnt have nearly as many viewers and followers as the actual movie, a sequel is basically guaranteed, and i dont think he meant an actual remake, is JJ Abrams supposed to say "sorry guys i blew it lets re try it"? I think he just meant a sequel, which makes perfect sense, I really appreciated the movie for what it was, but why stop here? If JJ sticks with it, it should still be great.

Whats so terrible about a sequel?

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Simple. The sequel makes the original film PART ONE. It reduces the importance and magnitude of Cloverfield. It lessens Rob's struggle and makes the presence of the monster and it's parasites less shocking. Another scene showing the results of the parasite's bite would also hurt the shocking imagery of the original scene. Do you see what I'm saying? I believe that the incredible film should stand on it's own because it's so very powerful already.

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so the entirety of the story is supposed to end on "i love you" "i love you too" "i had a great day" *clue* credits *clue*

sure thats epic and powerful and touching and someday might be iconic, but there is so much that still needs to be answered, i cant see this as a stand alone event

they could ruin it obviously, but this just seems like everything is done for a reason and that they know what they are doing. you cant end a movie with so many questions, most of them not even because of ambiguity, and then just stop

i see what you are saying, but this is still the first, it will remain what it is

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TheMaximum wrote:
Simple. The sequel makes the original film PART ONE. It reduces the importance and magnitude of Cloverfield. It lessens Rob's struggle and makes the presence of the monster and it's parasites less shocking. Another scene showing the results of the parasite's bite would also hurt the shocking imagery of the original scene. Do you see what I'm saying? I believe that the incredible film should stand on it's own because it's so very powerful already.


I think this film should indeed be set apart. Just like the very first Godzilla film is STILL to this day set apart from the rest of the series.

why?

There was a deeper meaning for the film, Godzilla itself was a metaphor, an avatar for the U.S.'s use of Nuclear bombs.

So, even if they make another Cloverfield movie- it won't have the same impact as the original. And as much as I absolutely love the handycam version, I think it would be only fitting to switch it to regular filming style.

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