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[Spec][Spoilers] More Than 1 "Mother Monsters"?
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LaNcEleCtriKuTion
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Hey- It might sound stupid, but being Decorated and all, I lurk a lot. I've come to this conclusion- there is only one monster during May 22-23, but many more might be seen. (The new pic shows other huge monsters)
As for the size reference, the arms of MGP might be (Stupid part here) retractable. Yeah, sounds kinda dumb, but If there were one monster, the only explanations would be this:
-JJ messed up
-CGI devs messed up
-We messed up when comparing sizes
-MGP has retractable arms
-Many monsters (THAT WOULD KILL MOST OF WHAT WE LEARNED THE PAST 6 MONTHS)
-The shot of MGP at the end was rushed and POV sized wrong.

As for the different looking faces, I think that the explosions/moving camera/lights affected the lighting and shape. Also, when MGP is crawling, it's obviously much smaller than when you see him nearly up right (Grabbing the building).

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tMan930
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LaNcEleCtriKuTion wrote:
(The new pic shows other huge monsters)


Sperm whales, dude...

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Calypso
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I dont think we will know anything for sure inless there is an official statement, a new clue, or till we get the DVD aand can zoom in and slow the picture down to closely examen it closley.

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TheGanjaMonster
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Maybe I was trippin' but I could've sworn that the monster had good speed for its size for its movements. I really don't know why you guys thinks it is so hard for this monster to get to one part of the town to the other when he caused the destruction of the Empire State Building. Shocked

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tMan930
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TheGanjaMonster wrote:
Maybe I was trippin' but I could've sworn that the monster had good speed for its size for its movements. I really don't know why you guys thinks it is so hard for this monster to get to one part of the town to the other when he caused the destruction of the Empire State Building. Shocked


Guess you don't have any maps up there in the "Ganja Mountains"? The monster would have to be fast as fuck to get around like that, and why would he be doing it?

(P.S. That wasn't the Empire State Building. Unless he destroyed that, too, but I don't remember seeing it)

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tMan930 wrote:
TheGanjaMonster wrote:
Maybe I was trippin' but I could've sworn that the monster had good speed for its size for its movements. I really don't know why you guys thinks it is so hard for this monster to get to one part of the town to the other when he caused the destruction of the Empire State Building. Shocked


Guess you don't have any maps up there in the "Ganja Mountains"? The monster would have to be fast as fuck to get around like that, and why would he be doing it?

(P.S. That wasn't the Empire State Building. Unless he destroyed that, too, but I don't remember seeing it)


to be perfectly honest, I really don't know. And I believe the Empire State Building did collapse, at the beginning of the movie.

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YippeeKaiMOFO
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Just a thought, here.

I think everyone here would agree that Speilberg is a brilliant director and producer. Made a bunch of highly enjoyable films. An obvious stickler for details too, don't you think?

Anyone see Jaws?

Anyone ever wonder how Jaws, some 50 ft shark, could possibly attack from below, under the legs of kids in 10, maybe 15 (ok, 20, tops) feet of water, and remain in that trajectory for at least 5 DA DUH, DA DUH's?

It's called a monster movie, folks. It isn't some PBS documentary. Some scenes just would not work if scaled properly.

I say it's pretty obvious there was only one "Clover". If there were more it would have surely been worked into the script.

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Euchre
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That was the Woolworth building we saw fall, not the ESB. In fact I can't be sure when we see the ESB, but I do notice the Chrysler building in the shot of the SoL's head in the street - one of the other 'pointy' buildings in NYC.

As for multiple large monsters - when they are talking on the chopper radio after the crash they speak of the target - singular - still being active. They obviously have good air coverage and a bird's eye view, and wouldn't likely miss a second monster with a total length of something like 750 feet outstretched (long legs on that sucker!) wandering around.
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WartyHogger
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There probably is more then 1, god i hope there is, a second one would be really great (in my opinion) And every time i saw the monster, it looked different in some kind of ways. from color and stuff, so mb what he says at the credits is "theres more then one" hmmm. Cloverfield research continues!

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penguin-1203
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geis wrote:
Agreed. To a 40 story tall monster, Hud would of look like a ant to him.

I believe there alot more to this movie then we know. We have just open the bag.
i think this movie is onyl a clue. there is probably going to be alot more to this. (in other words, re-wording what you said Razz )

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H3FZer0
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http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/10927

Read it.

Part of it says this:
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I also had the chance to speak with Director Matt Reeves about sequels and about a certain shot toward the end of the film that kind of looks as if the monster is smaller than we had seen…possibly implying that there is another monster or baby monster, he had this to say, "The monster has a pretty consistent size in the film, and towards the end even though its shot in such a way that there is a perspective change that makes him look a bit smaller but it is in fact the monster at his biggest."


^ That doesn't mean that there aren't other monsters out there, but according to Reeves, in the movie we only see one 'big monster'. I'm still hoping if a sequel is to be made, that it might reveal other monsters.

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WartyHogger
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H3FZer0 wrote:
http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/10927

Read it.

Part of it says this:
Quote:
I also had the chance to speak with Director Matt Reeves about sequels and about a certain shot toward the end of the film that kind of looks as if the monster is smaller than we had seen…possibly implying that there is another monster or baby monster, he had this to say, "The monster has a pretty consistent size in the film, and towards the end even though its shot in such a way that there is a perspective change that makes him look a bit smaller but it is in fact the monster at his biggest."


^ That doesn't mean that there aren't other monsters out there, but according to Reeves, in the movie we only see one 'big monster'. I'm still hoping if a sequel is to be made, that it might reveal other monsters.



Agreed, had to of been a huge splash if it was that close and atleast on fire, not just a Smoke Monster looking things like on Lost diving into the ocean. Neutral Part 2 better not just suck like the Blair witch project hehe.

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Caros
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As a bit of info

Just thought I'd plug these two threads as a bit of helpful info.

Timeline - http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23783

Location - http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=466057#466057

So far its the best we've come up with, but regarding those, we've been able to prove (Least in my mind), that there is no 'lost time' with the creature, that it can infact be everywhere it needs to be (Though the sucker moves fast when it wants to.)

That said, having done a timeline the one thing that strikes me as odd is the sea attack. Not only does the tail seem out of proportion to me, but the whole concept of the monster returning to water seems off.

Consider, the monster rampages from the southern tip of the island to midtown over the course of an hour, then just decides to head over to the east river for a swim, break a bridge, then rampage through the city again?

This is the only point I believe two monsters function. Were there more than one, they would easily be seen and referenced in the plural. However, I could see people mistaking the creature that attacks the bridge for the creature attacking the city.

If it only revealed itself once, its possible that no one would notice or pay enough attention to the second monster. This of course assumes it is either canny, afraid, or indifferent.

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blaaaaaah
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One big monster, guys. C'mon.

When seen from Beth's roof, it's simply walking upright.

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Stumper67
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As far as what destroyed the bridge... This thing has long thin arms... He could have just slammed his arm down on the bridge. It's not necessarily a tail and I'm pretty certain it's not a tentacle.

And with the red breathing mechanisms on his head... In all but one shot we see the monster being pummeled by heavy weapons... In the Central Park scene, the monster was apparently going through a period in which we had relaxed our attack in preparation for "Operation Hammer-Down" meaning a total nuke of the area...

Those red sacs looked pretty vulnerable in that Central Park scene, I think it's likely in the other shots that the monster utilized some kind of method to protect them... Animals sometimes have some sort of protection for their weaker, more vulnerable areas. Take a shark for example... Sharks have an extra protective film that covers their eyes whenever they engage another creature...

Perhaps the monster has this kind of mechanism.

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