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[Spec][Spoilers] More Than 1 "Mother Monsters"?
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Ghidra99
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TheGanjaMonster wrote:
to be perfectly honest, I really don't know. And I believe the Empire State Building did collapse, at the beginning of the movie.


It was not the Empire State Building that collapsed at the beginning of the attack. It was the Woolworth Building.

Dennis wrote about this months ago.

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Not to mention the fact that the monster that could be seen from Beth's apartment looked like it was walking on two legs, and was taller than every building it was walking by. To be fair...they might've just messed up when they were making the movie, hoping no one would care? That seems ridiculous, because there's no way JJ Abrams could underestimate internet nerds.


When I saw that I could have sworn the thing was walking just like a T-Rex.

But anyways.

If you look at how big the monster is when you first see it when it passes by them when it first hits its as big as the Chrysler Building or whatever it was. Then when they got on the chopper and you see the stealth bomber blow the shit out of it its huge just like you see in the very begining. Now if you pay close attention to its face you can see the one that gets hit by the Stealth bomber looks completly diffrent from the one that is in central park. The one that gets taken out has no red lung things on his head.

Also if that thing was as big as the chrysler building and was able to take out the brooklyn bridge with its tail and it was looking over you like the one is central park was it would have been 30x bigger. Also I dont beleive I saw a tail on the one in central park. If you look at the faces they look diffrent. The bigger one has more of a Beak-ish face (Pointy) and the one in central park is more rounder.

Also how could it have made the first explosion then throw the Statue of Liberty's head? Unless it is super fast?

Here is a pic of what I think resembals the monster size to hud. As you can tell I am a profesional artist.



Now look at the monster here. And this is not even showing the full length of it!



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Stumper67
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YippeeKaiMOFO wrote:
Just a thought, here.

I think everyone here would agree that Speilberg is a brilliant director and producer. Made a bunch of highly enjoyable films. An obvious stickler for details too, don't you think?

Anyone see Jaws?

Anyone ever wonder how Jaws, some 50 ft shark, could possibly attack from below, under the legs of kids in 10, maybe 15 (ok, 20, tops) feet of water, and remain in that trajectory for at least 5 DA DUH, DA DUH's?

It's called a monster movie, folks. It isn't some PBS documentary. Some scenes just would not work if scaled properly.

I say it's pretty obvious there was only one "Clover". If there were more it would have surely been worked into the script.


Jaws was not even close to 50 feet.

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Stumper67
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Addressing why the monster would move around so fast, I have two points:

1. This monster is having heavy weapons fired at it constantly... Of course it's going to move in a frantic, nonsensical pattern... It's an animal getting pounded on by very powerful weapons... As we see late in the film, our attacks do have an effect on it, they just don't finish it off... It's obviously going to run away from whatever is attacking it, sporadically fighting back like any frantic and cornered animal would do.

2. One reason why it may have returned to the water and to the Brooklyn Bridge is that there was a huge congregation of food there. They were evacuating people, so there was a huge amount of people concentrated on the bridge.

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J.J. reffers to only one monster,Reeves refers to only one monster,the military refers to only one monster,the news refers to only one monster.I do think the military would know if there were more than one,and they say "IT" as in singular.
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tMan930
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Saw it again, and how does this monster sneak up on Hud, Beth, and Rob in the park, if it's not a smaller one than the main monster?

Can it walk on its tiptoes?
Is there a stealth mode?

The giant monster than was storming through the city, knocking over buildings, and ripping the heads off of statues could not have quietly crept into the park, and snuck up behind them in the matter of split seconds in which Hud picks up the camera as Rob and Beth run away.

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BeliyPlaschik
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Well what of the small parasite like creatures that came off the main monster? Does anyone think that after feeding they could have grown as well and it could have been what killed Hud?

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Come on guys. You're going to worry about his height THAT MUCH. Godzilla varied in size depending on the situation. Sometimes in the same movie.

Maybe Clover was smaller in the scene with HUD, but it was only to make his demise more intimate.

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WOW. theres only one monster, simple as that. The reason you don't see the red bubbles ( don't know what else to call them) during the bombing scene is because they are a tender part of the body (or at least they look it), so he keeps them covered. As for him getting from one side of the city to the other, I think its absolutely possible. THE SOB IS FAST. We know he can jump insanely high, so whose to say hes not jumping across Manhatten. I'm not saying hes the only big guy( we know he has a mom, and thats crazy in itself) but hes the only big guy we see in this movie.

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"Anyone see Jaws?

Anyone ever wonder how Jaws, some 50 ft shark, could possibly attack from below, under the legs of kids in 10, maybe 15 (ok, 20, tops) feet of water, and remain in that trajectory for at least 5 DA DUH, DA DUH's?
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Jaws was about 35' long.
From memory:

Hooper: It's a 30 footer!
Quint: 35.



Also, although it's unlikely, I like the whole idea of the monster following Hud around because he had, at some point, drank Slusho(someone mentioned that- is it mentioned elsewhere on this forum?). The monster DID land a more-or-less direct hit on Jason on the bridge, and it did seem to be attacking just about every place the camera was, and it did eventually kill Hud and leave Beth and Rob alone.

As for more than one monster- I doubt it. Pretty sure that the military would have put that together, even in the confusion. Then again, they were, what, 42 minutes late with the Hammer Down operation.

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this theory is totally bogus!!!


there is only one MGP seen in this movie

period

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Ghidra99
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tMan930 wrote:
Saw it again, and how does this monster sneak up on Hud, Beth, and Rob in the park, if it's not a smaller one than the main monster?

Can it walk on its tiptoes?
Is there a stealth mode?

The giant monster than was storming through the city, knocking over buildings, and ripping the heads off of statues could not have quietly crept into the park, and snuck up behind them in the matter of split seconds in which Hud picks up the camera as Rob and Beth run away.


No, no, and no.

You hear the monster approach as Beth and Hud are getting Rob to his feet. When Hud notices he left the camera and returns to get it, you can still hear the monster approach. The reason you don't notice it is because of the commotion (and noise) that Beth and Hud are making.

I made a point to pay specific attention to this detail the second time I watched the movie.

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danieltx13
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Ghidra99 wrote:
tMan930 wrote:
Saw it again, and how does this monster sneak up on Hud, Beth, and Rob in the park, if it's not a smaller one than the main monster?

Can it walk on its tiptoes?
Is there a stealth mode?

The giant monster than was storming through the city, knocking over buildings, and ripping the heads off of statues could not have quietly crept into the park, and snuck up behind them in the matter of split seconds in which Hud picks up the camera as Rob and Beth run away.


No, no, and no.

You hear the monster approach as Beth and Hud are getting Rob to his feet. When Hud notices he left the camera and returns to get it, you can still hear the monster approach. The reason you don't notice it is because of the commotion (and noise) that Beth and Hud are making.

I made a point to pay specific attention to this detail the second time I watched the movie.


Yep, you can hear it approach them.

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I just saw the movie tonight, in a great theater with amazing sound, you could hear the *thumps* of footsteps during the opening sequence showing paramount/bad robot.

You couldn't hear any footsteps before or as Hud is running towards the camera, you hear and see one footstep as he picks up the camera and spins around to see what Beth and Rob are staring at.

Two possible explanations, one, the monster is laying unconcious due to having just leapt at a helicopter and coming crashing back down to earth right after being carpet bombed. He wakes up right as Hud comes by for the camera.

Two, the monster is standing there the whole time watching the whole scene, the people on the ground don't notice him because he's just standing there relatively still watching them, to them they would just see a couple huge tree trunks stretching up towards the sky. That idea is from Euchre on IRC.

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crow
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I think that there are more than one monster, but not in manhattan.
We know that MGP is a baby, so this most mean there must be a mother or father around.

Now, as for the scene with HUD at central.
Think of it like this, He just survived a helicopter crash, your definitely in shock, your mind is set on GO! in this case Hud's is get the camera and go, he's looking at the camera as he approaches, not paying attention to his surroundings, for all we know, MGP could have lowered himself to scour for food, or what not.

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