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[alptraum]

[alptraum]

[Roe]

[alptraum]

I'll back him up on the ToT thing, thats what I heard as well.

[dronetek]

Its still cracking me up that people hear a singular noun (HammeRdown) and think multiple bombings. Especially when the bombings dont stop for the entire movie, meaning its nothing special that you hear a bombardment leading up to the orange flash and end of the movie.

Also, the blast wouldn't hurt them if the bridge shielded them from the flash.

[Roe]

Hammerdown is an operational term, a code name for a plan to apparently level Manhattan the military has in place if their current operation fails.

The plan can be anything to accomplish this.


edit: it's too early to type, changed my grammer a bit.

[dronetek]

[rhesusmonkeyboy]

 Bombing in the sense of destroying Manhat

[Ghidra99]

I agree with rhesusmonkeyboy. I think they went more conventional bombing technology to the more advanced bombing (bunker-busting, etc.).

There's absolutely no evidence that they used nuclear ordinance.

The double blast that buries Rob & Beth at the end of the movie is proof that anything nuclear was not used.

[Angstfild]

The best proof and only proof that should be needed to end this discussion as to whether or not it was a nuke is the fact that there was no EMP.

Nuke = EMP = no movie.

[Aquastorm]

[tsua hx]

1rst time poster.

Ive browsed through this topic, and I cant say Im suprised to see all of the misconceptions of the effects of nuclear weaponry.

First, and most importantly: An EMP is symptomatic of a "high-altitude" detonation only. A high-altitude nuclear detonation produces an immediate flux of gamma rays from the nuclear reactions within the device, which interact with the Earths magnetic field. This is not an effect seen in ground-burst, air-burst, or any other terrestrial detonation.
You may have seen footage of a high-altitude detonation; it resembles the aurora borealis. You may remember hearing of an EMP that knocked out electronics in Hawaii; that shot originated from scores of miles above the bikini atoll. You may remember seeing footage of those demonstrations where the houses and trucks were put in the path of an early atomic weapon, only to be completely decimated right before your eyes? The transistors in those cameras were not replaced by radiation-resistant gerbils on treadmills.

Now, on to the second point: There are two layman classifications for tactical nuclear weaponry - Clean and Dirty. Weve all heard of a dirty bomb. The difference between the two lies in the amount of energy the fission process produces for destructive or radioactive use respectively.
Low-Yeild clean tactical nukes could feasibly have been used in the application presented to us by the movie - and avoided the fallout (One guy said "100 miles in all directions", and I laughed.), but I seriously doubt the effect would have been much more dramatic than any conventional weaponry.

My personal opinion is that it was either 1) not a nuke or 2) supposed to be a nuke, but the special effects people had no idea what a nuke looked or sounded like.
Also, IRL... the use of a nuclear weapon would negate Protocol I, portions of the geneva convention, and would not have an operational 'code-name' openly discussed between first-response national guard troops and ordinary civilians.

Hope I could add something to the conversation.

[Zaggs]

[penguin-1203]

[Matt9882]