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[SPOILERS] Confirmation of Sequel on "The N" Network?

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Rusty
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That's what I thought until one of the posters here said they saw it that day, a week after the initial reports of seeing it.

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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:12 pm

xboyonfirex
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great... U.F.O's, Bigfoot, and a commercial on 'The N'.

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:12 pm

quantumcreep
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Re: [SPOILERS] Confirmation of Sequel on "The N" Network?

Howdy folks,
I've never really been a fan of these intarweb marketing games, but since I saw Cloverfield, I've been interested to hear other people's thoughts on the movie and the backstory. I've read a ton of posts from a bunch of different sites, some ridiculous, some funny, and some just strange. But this forum seems pretty sensible, and even though some of the ideas are a bit outlandish, it's obvious everyone here understands that this is just a game. And you all use proper grammar and spelling!

Anyway, I did a little bit of internet detective work, and I think I've come up with a sensible conclusion to this odd commercial. I looked up some Degrassi fan websites (I've never seen the show, but I think it's a teenage drama show about high school or some such; it took a lot of deciphering to figure out what the hell those kids were posting since they used, well, the grammar and spelling of teenagers that watch a show about high school.) From what I gathered, the N Network pushed back the start of the new season of Degrassi from January 18th to February 8th, not in the U.S., but in Canada. Someone on one of these forums even stated that they were going to sacrifice watching some Degrassi to go see Cloverfield! As such, and this relies only on the circumstance that this really is a Cloverfield ad and it's only been seen on Degrassi, a lot of fans of the show would either A) not know about the time switch, stay home to catch the season premier, see a re-run, and thus an ad for the movie, B) marketing figured that fans of the show would be pissed off about the switch and boycott the flick for the meantime, or C) (and I admit this one really is a stretch, but) since Paramount allegedly owns N and produced Cloverfield, and they were unsure of the movie's success, they pushed back a t.v. event that would attract a large number of viewers to ensure a bigger opening weekend draw. (Canada and the U.S. had the same 18th release date)
Something else: another show, presumably Degrassi's fore runner was called Degrassi Junior High. Guess the air date of the show's premier: January 18th, 1987! Coincidence or another creepy Japanese conspiracy? You be the judge.

Whatever the case, this is almost definitely not an ad for a sequel. Sure, Abrams acts like he's got the balls, but the truth is that every producer, director, and actor hangs on the words of critics and the amount of money that comes in. I am personally unaware of any major film series that shot a first part and a second part at the same time or so close together. Paramount would never green light the marketing for a movie they haven't already explicitly agreed to produce or seen a helluva lot of progress in the production for, and studios enjoy the time between sequels to correct errors or hone their CGI creations.

I apologize for such a long post. I've got another one coming though under a new topic that I'd really like everyone here to read. I have a really strong argument on the nature of the thing that crashes into the water.

Feel free to ~~e-mail me at~~ PM me on the matter.

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:36 pm

LaNcEleCtriKuTion
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Re: [SPOILERS] Confirmation of Sequel on "The N" Network?

quantumcreep wrote:

Welcome, quantumsplat! Just use your "contact info" for your e-mail- it takes up less room on the web page and makes it easier to load for some of us.

Alright, after reading the title, the first page, and the last page of this thread, I believe there is no video of this commercial.
I really like an idea of another Cloverfield movie. Heck, I'm even writing the first draft of the plot as we speak (Actually 'type', but nevermind).
Here's the link: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24016

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:38 pm

StayPuftMarshmallowMan
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Re: [SPOILERS] Confirmation of Sequel on "The N" Network?

quantumcreep wrote:

Good first post but actually Lord of the Rings were shot three in a row all at the same time in New Zealand. Just lettin you know. Im not trying to destroy like some others on this thread are doin. Nuff said.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:07 am

quantumcreep
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Damn, great call on LOTR. I don't know how that completely slipped my mind, being that its one of the best series I've seen.
After comparing their resumes, Goddard, Reeves, and Abrams are a lot like a single Peter Jackson; they're old friends who have worked together on a lot of things.
I just still don't see Paramount greenlighting a dual project with a relatively inexperienced director and producer, not to mention inexperienced actors (unlike LOTR). New Line, though, has always been a little more flexible/experimental.
Also, hell, Peter Jackson is insane. He probably offered his first daughter to New Line for the money.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:33 am

xboyonfirex
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quantumcreep wrote:

You gotta think about successes like "LOTR's" though... I mean, think about the impact it had on the movie industry? Trilogies became all the rave now. Epic fantasies have become all the rage now [The Chronicles of Narnia/The Gold Compass]. Now, I don't think that they did a 'duel project' because a movie like this needed a 'full focus/full attention' to it. But having an inexperienced director/unknown actors might not effect the possibility of there being duel "Cloverfield" projects going on all at once.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:39 am

Rusty
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Re: [SPOILERS] Confirmation of Sequel on "The N" Network?

quantumcreep wrote:

Also,

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Paramount > Nickelodeon > The N
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Cloverfield

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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:56 am

11808
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Isnt' it more like...

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Viacom > Nicklodeon > The N
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Paramount
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Cloverfield

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:05 am

quantumcreep
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11808 wrote:

Isnt' it more like...

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Viacom > Nicklodeon > The N
V
Paramount
V
Cloverfield

Yep.

Also, Rusty, why did you highlight my mention of the money? I didn't at all mean that the movie has not done well financially, if that's what you thought. I just meant that studios don't like gambling much on movies, so every higher up member of a film crew is biting his nails when their project is released, as the incoming cash flow is really a mark of either success or failure.

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Another good point. You're right also about how the lack of experience might not make a difference, but with a project like Cloverfield, which is already experimental in nature as nothing decent (inserted so no smart asses reply with something like "Dragon Wars" or the "Godzilla" remake) like it has come out (using the same technology, pacing, formatting, etc.), I'd imagine that a major player like Paramount would want at least another highly experienced producer on board before thinking about sinking sixty mill into such a project.
LOTR was awesome because it broke new ground. Not only was it new, but it did things to such a grand scale, that anyone following in its footsteps would have their work cut out for them; most are comfortable just calling it a day and copying a lot of the same style, it seems (Narnia, for example).

I know I wouldn't be disappointed if I heard another sequel was coming out, but I don't know if it would be as successful as the first part. Audiences might be fatigued by the "inconclusive" story so far, and not feel as if it necessarily set itself up for a sequel (horrible, horrible memories of "Blair Witch 2" come flooding back). Not even going to say I believe this, but it is a possibility.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:15 am

ecw209
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Re: [SPOILERS] Confirmation of Sequel on "The N" Network?

quantumcreep wrote:

Whatever the case, this is almost definitely not an ad for a sequel. Sure, Abrams acts like he's got the balls, but the truth is that every producer, director, and actor hangs on the words of critics and the amount of money that comes in. I am personally unaware of any major film series that shot a first part and a second part at the same time or so close together. Paramount would never green light the marketing for a movie they haven't already explicitly agreed to produce or seen a helluva lot of progress in the production for, and studios enjoy the time between sequels to correct errors or hone their CGI creations.

Lots of this movie was done unorthodox to what was previously done so I wouldnt put it past Abrams & Paramount to secretly have shot a sequel. You say its about the amount of money that comes in & that's true but the budget for this movie was a measly $25million for a movie with a great concept that the studio seemed enthusiastically behind all the way. That's ridiculously cheap to make a movie. Even a bad movie can make enough to break even at $25million after being in a theater for 4-6weeks. Perhaps there's something more to this like 2 movies were produced at the time for a TOTAL of $50-60mil which is still less since most movies have a budget of $70million or more..

I dont want to be redundant so I wont repeat everything I wrote but I have a whole thread dedicated to this specific issue, take a look at it & leave a comment if you'd like: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24110 I

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:49 am

Rusty
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quantumcreep wrote:

Also, Rusty, why did you highlight my mention of the money? I didn't at all mean that the movie has not done well financially, if that's what you thought. I just meant that studios don't like gambling much on movies, so every higher up member of a film crew is biting his nails when their project is released, as the incoming cash flow is really a mark of either success or failure.

I highlighted it because of the amount of money this film has made. It made everything back in the first two days. And I believe Paramount also wants them to do another one.

Everything's pointing to sequel - but that doesn't necessarily mean that this is an ad for that. A bit too soon.

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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:20 am

bizzle333
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so judging from what i've read on this thread, the existence of this "commercial" and it's relation to cloverfield or a possible sequel have not ben confirmed. is that correct?

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:33 pm

tMan930
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bizzle333 wrote:

so judging from what i've read on this thread, the existence of this "commercial" and it's relation to cloverfield or a possible sequel have not ben confirmed. is that correct?

That is correct.
I can't help but feel that there wasn't a one-time-only commercial like this, right? I feel like the people who saw/heard this thing have either misinterpreted or misunderstood what it was.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:32 pm

anonimous
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11808 wrote:

Isnt' it more like...

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Viacom > Nicklodeon -----> The N
V V
Paramount Kevin Bacon
V ^
Cloverfield--------------------|

Sorry... I couldn't help myself.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:18 pm

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