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[SPOILERS][SPEC] WE HAVE A BITE!
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AngelWylde
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 Didja Notice...

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Why is Hud so special? Does he just look tastier for big momma?


Here's my thing...

You have a primarily water-dwelling creature laying waste to one of the most populated places on the continent. He effectively treats the city like it's own personal lego-set despite being friggin napalmed.

Now, this giant thing able to cover miles of land in minutes chewing through skyscrapers like giant stalagmites of so much grahm-cracker not once, not twice, but at least three times in the movie pays particular attention to our dear friends with the camera.

I mean, directly after being napalmed by a formation of stealth bombers it snatches their helicopter right out of the sky, walks to Central Park, and what does it do when it gets there? It doesn't go around kicking over trees like matchstics, when Hud points the camera in to date my favorite "well, I'm totally fugged" moment in movies, it's looking around.

Who's it looking for?

Anyway, that's my .02

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imnutty
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couple of Gruesome looking characters there if you know what i mean

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Phoenixka
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I highly doubt the creatures are laying eggs. I've never heard of an animal that laid eggs through it's mouth and definently not in the short instance marlena was bitten in. Now I know this is a movie so the little guys could have "omg!!! super egg injectorz", but I doubt it.

Now I guess it could be possible that they have some sort of virus in their venom that gradually reconstructs cells into one of those critters and as stated before humans do not have enough mass to contain one of the critters so they explode, but we do not see anything running out of Marlena so she just blows up.

Now with my previous virus theory it might be possible that the virus causes rapid reproduction of cells making people explode.

Alot of people are talking about gastric gasses, but wouldn't it take a long time for gases like that to build up? Marlena pretty much get bits and blows up within an hour.

I do like some of the bug bite theories though. She turned into a giant puss ball and exploded.

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Derringer
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Phoenixka wrote:
I highly doubt the creatures are laying eggs. I've never heard of an animal that laid eggs through it's mouth and definently not in the short instance marlena was bitten in. Now I know this is a movie so the little guys could have "omg!!! super egg injectorz", but I doubt it.




Well it's what happened in Aliens, though the lifecycle would have to be accelerated tremendously. On the other hand in Species, it was instantaneous pretty much.

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6slushos
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Derringer wrote:
Phoenixka wrote:
I highly doubt the creatures are laying eggs. I've never heard of an animal that laid eggs through it's mouth and definently not in the short instance marlena was bitten in. Now I know this is a movie so the little guys could have "omg!!! super egg injectorz", but I doubt it.




Well it's what happened in Aliens, though the lifecycle would have to be accelerated tremendously. On the other hand in Species, it was instantaneous pretty much.



thats right it did happen in those 2 movies, but not for Cloverfield. It's too clever to do such a done and tried thing. MGP's way more complicated.

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Saiyan King
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I thought of it like an infection reaction too. Theres some poisonous snakes in Asia, that if youre bit by them, say in the arm, the arm swells to the point that the skin can tear. Maybe the bite caused an infection that causes the blood vessels or the blood cells themselves to swell to the point of bursting. It was blood afterall and not puss that sprayed all over the sheet
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Saiyan King wrote:
I thought of it like an infection reaction too. Theres some poisonous snakes in Asia, that if youre bit by them, say in the arm, the arm swells to the point that the skin can tear. Maybe the bite caused an infection that causes the blood vessels or the blood cells themselves to swell to the point of bursting. It was blood afterall and not puss that sprayed all over the sheet



yeah..marlena deserved better. Sad
i kinda feel like this is all real, like cloverfield is real.
i feel like i lived through that event and that Marlena and Hud are REALLY DEAD. I think JJ succeeded.

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I thought the things were tics or something that just fell off the body. Their bits or like mosquitos, the target swells up. Which is fine for the monster, but a human which is so very much smaller....goes pop. They're in quarantine because they don't know what is involved nor if it can be spread. Thats why they bring in one of the ticks in a incubator type thing, to study.

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gypsy songman
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Re: Didja Notice...

AngelWylde wrote:

You have a primarily water-dwelling creature laying waste to one of the most populated places on the continent. He effectively treats the city like it's own personal lego-set despite being friggin napalmed.

Now, this giant thing able to cover miles of land in minutes chewing through skyscrapers like giant stalagmites of so much grahm-cracker not once, not twice, but at least three times in the movie pays particular attention to our dear friends with the camera.

I mean, directly after being napalmed by a formation of stealth bombers it snatches their helicopter right out of the sky, walks to Central Park, and what does it do when it gets there? It doesn't go around kicking over trees like matchstics, when Hud points the camera in to date my favorite "well, I'm totally fugged" moment in movies, it's looking around.

Who's it looking for?

Anyway, that's my .02


I'm not remembering the third time, I guess.... just the helicopter attack and the subsequent central park thing. The helicopter attack made plenty of sense to me... the creature doesn't know the difference between a bomber and a helicopter, after all. It gets hit with whopping-great firebombs, looks up, and sees something buzzing around in the sky over it. It's angry and it takes a swipe. I got the impression that the Central Park scene takes place an hour or more after the crash, but I could be wrong. What makes far less sense is how the badly injured Hud makes a break for the camera with such speed and agility. Smile

Marlena did say that it was eating people in the streets in one of the early scenes... a creature that big shouldn't be paying attention to the little ants running around its feet when it's got a city full of tall playthings to knock over. I propose that it has some kind of "bio-sensor" that allows it to more easily locate tiny prey... in a city that has largely been evacuated (presumably, anyone able to get out at this point is out), in an area near the heart of the devastation the monster unleashed, there isn't too much prey left to find. I'm still confused, though, as to how Hud came out of that final attack apparently undismembered with a face that didn't look like a wad of used gum.

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Aquastorm
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Maybe he got sliced through the waist-line, so his upper torso managed to fall down back in front of the camera becuase MGP is a messy eater...

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Zaggs
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Re: Didja Notice...

gypsy songman wrote:


Marlena did say that it was eating people in the streets in one of the early scenes... a creature that big shouldn't be paying attention to the little ants running around its feet when it's got a city full of tall playthings to knock over. I propose that it has some kind of "bio-sensor" that allows it to more easily locate tiny prey... in a city that has largely been evacuated (presumably, anyone able to get out at this point is out), in an area near the heart of the devastation the monster unleashed, there isn't too much prey left to find. I'm still confused, though, as to how Hud came out of that final attack apparently undismembered with a face that didn't look like a wad of used gum.


Kinda reminds me of something I saw on Meerkat Manor. When they were extremely weak and had gone without food for awhile what did they eat? Ants. Because it took very little effort to catch and eat them and there were lots of them. Could be the same thing here.
I have to assume that Hud came out of the attack mostly in one piece. I mean why did Rob and Beth keep yelling to him like they were trying to wake him up if he was bisected? Or maybe they didn't see there was very little left of Hud? Maybe the monster started chewing, didn't like him (marlena may not know the monster isnt digesting the people, maybe the little ones are like remoras) or got distracted by something (why aren't Rob and beth attacked?)?

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Slusho Addict
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Re: Didja Notice...

gypsy songman wrote:

Marlena did say that it was eating people in the streets in one of the early scenes... a creature that big shouldn't be paying attention to the little ants running around its feet when it's got a city full of tall playthings to knock over.


Well if it does indeed suck people up into those tubes on it's body, the creature seems designed to roam around eating all small things beneath it, like a cow grazes over grass or a basking shark eats plankton. His head is pretty tiny relative to his body too.

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Fignut the Elder
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Aquastorm wrote:
Maybe he got sliced through the waist-line, so his upper torso managed to fall down back in front of the camera becuase MGP is a messy eater...



That's exactly what I thought happened to Hud. His upper torso and the camera got spit right out, camera fell first then what was left of him.

Rob and Beth were basically in TOTAL SHOCK at that point, so the fact that they called him after this happened would seem rather natural. Shock and pure disbelief at what just happened is a good motivator for anyone to do what they did.

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So about them little critters...

The problem is with the way she explodes. Her entire body swells, not just her abdomen. Unless the intestinal gasses simply "pushed" everything outward, it might be something circulatory.

The other thing we seem to forget is that you can't create something from nothing. The only way she can expand that much is if her body fluids (or solids) are transformed into gasses. She simply doesn't have that much fluid in her body to begin with.

I also have a problem with the idea of babies being the mechanical cause of her demise. If they got big and strong enough to open her up, what have they been eating all this time? She would have been in extreme pain and noticed the loss of that much tissue or blood.

Not to say that the parasites couldn't have injected her with eggs. It's possible that their ovipositors are really close to their mouths. Perhaps the poison or bacteria in the saliva (symbiosis anyone?) is an agent to release microscopic babies when the host explodes.

Also, we don't know what the medics were doing to her behind the curtain. Maybe they have a way of killing the babies pre-explosion that doesn't involve gunshots.

Quarantine makes sense whether the military believes the bite contagious or not. If your blood is going everywhere, all your nice blood-born diseases go with it. That might be reason enough.

Soooo, in short, there are a lot of things it could be. I don't think we have enough info yet, but the references to poisons causing gasses to expand in the natural world would make me lean towards those.

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Fignut the Elder
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girlunderwater wrote:
I think its also interesting to bring up the conversation Marlena and Hud were having after the attack. I don't remember it word for word but I do remember Hud saying something like, "They were trying to drag me off. I wonder where they were gonna take me." Remember, they were chomping at him pretty aggressively (in what looked like the crotch) but he didn't get any bites bad enough to make him explode. Not to mention Lily and Rob getting wounds too.

So why would our baddies want to carry off a Hud but not hurt him bad enough to explode, but bite/attack Marlena and inject whatever into her?

Also, I noticed in the stairwell in the apartment building, one of the baddies was going after Hud, even while Rob was fighting it off. Why is Hud so special? Does he just look tastier for big momma?

Uhmm... and I'm pretty confident that the little guys are just babies of MGP. And could MGP stand for Misses Grumpy Pants?



Please kill me.... Bang Head

they are not babies!!!!!

The monster is from the sea....sea creatures of all sorts have symbiotic parasites. That's what they were.

The monster isn't a mommy and that's that. It's all been proven, JJ Abrams himself states that the monster "is a baby."

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