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[SlushoRoar]

A simple way to find out if lily is alive.
For her to update her myspace blog.
Which I doubt would happen. "Hey all my friends died. A moster attacked NYC but god damn I got some great pictures" maybe just having her come online?

[6slushos]

[6slushos]

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come on now, this NEEDS a sequel. If this is America's answer for Godzilla, it can't just be one movie. We need more. And we'll get more.

[WartyHogger]

[Dr. Awkward]

Trilogy - or not trilogy ...

[TheMaximum]

Guys, please realize that a sequel would only lessen the importance of Cloverfield and that is not what we want. Yes, I know the appeal of such a sequel can be strong because the original film is so amazing. Please, please understand that any sequel will only take away from the glory of Cloverfield. If you're asking for closure, it's possible a new film will only create more questions or simply leave old ones unresolved. Please, please stop begging/hoping for a sequel.

[ScubaSteve1717]

Unless they sstand to make money from it, I don't see why the viral would continue, unless it easy quickly wrapped up with just as many questions as the movie left. The only reason I see it continuing is by leading it into a new movie.

And sorry to tell you but viral marketing isn't that new. The Blair Witch did it, Cadbury did it, Halo did it, NIN did it, and most times they have seemed more intense, in depth and mysterious than anything that Cloverfield has done. The good thing about it though, is that once the actual game or album or movie came out, they had some form of resolve to them to answer questions that were raised. The viral in this just seemed to lead up to something we knew was coming but were just waiting to see. In the other ones they lead up to the answers that people wanted and possibly the creation of new questions. I don't mean that they tell you exactly what happened, I just mean to say that they ended with some form of catharsis. What was the catharsis in this? The fact that they finally admit their love? That is fleeting, anyone would have said it to anyone else that they remotely cared for in that situation.

You praise JJ Abrams and Co. for creating this masterpiece, yet you don't think that they could pull off an equally well done sequel expanding and therefore strengthening both the original and the whole story? I guarantee when people heard about this they said "Damn it's about a monster? It's just gonna be like Godzilla etc." And look what happened, it changed things. It succeeded in making the old monster story fresh. (btw if you want a better version of a love story with a monster in the background watch The Host, far better in terms of the whole emotional story with the monster as the back drop. It's very similar, but in terms of the emotional appeal it's far better.) Why do you think that the man who created Lost and has managed to keep it fresh for however many seasons can't manage to make a decent sequel?

I'm going to bring up The Matrix, which you may have thought had shitty sequels but is not the point of what I'm trying to say. With each sequel, they still managed to leave many thing open to interpretation, right up to and including the very end. Their characters were well developed and they had many layers and overlapping archetypes throughout, which Cloverfield did not. ESPECIALLY if you haven't been following the whole thing from the viral point of view. These characters are just as lifeless as the ones also at the party that camera didn't follow. Sure we feel for them because bad things happen to them, but it's just because of the situation, not because we want them to win or get out. Good characters (mainly romantic couples) I think could be put in any situation and we would still want to watch them. The only thing I could see these characters being in is something like The Hills. They need to be better developed for me to get attachted to them.

You're trying to talk about shitty monster sequels being "tired" but then you preach about how amazing and powerful the love story was. Friends forever have sex, guy doesn't know what to do, girl is confused and angry and does something to hurt guy, guy gets angry and says something stupid, girl leaves, guy goes after girl. THAT is tired. I mentioned The Host earlier. That movie managed to take a fresh spin on love stories on it's own, but then managed to involve a monster in the whole story. It showed how a family had fallen apart but because of the monster that has attacked the city, throughout the movie brings them closer together. In Cloverfield it's just not there. Maybe you need to see the movie I'm talking about to understand what I'm saying, or maybe you have and just don't see the comparison, but it is there. I guess what i'm saying is, in The Host, even if the monster was not there the main story of the family would still be as powerful and meaningful and watchable as the way it turned out. If the monster in Cloverfield never happend, then noone would go see this movie.

To me Cloverfield is more about the monster and the story and it's effect on MANY lives which needs to be explored more. Not just the effect on some stupid 20 something relationship.

Yes they wanted to make an American version of Gojira, but you don't just create something like that and then stop it dead. It has questions that beg to be answered. In most movies with ambiguous endings, people are happy with not knowing, but this one just seems so empty without knowing.

Like I said, I don't need everything spelled out for me, I just basically want more because their is so much they could do with it. Why stop something that has so much potential. Maybe I'm just more optimistic then you. You seem to think that no matter what, if they make a sequel it will negate everything the first one did and ruin the whole thing. Why can't you just hope that they know what the hell they are doing.

[TheMaximum]

I can see that you want closure, but ANY new Cloverfield film would hurt the legacy of the original. Even if it was good, because good or not, it won't live up to the original.

You say the ARE didn't answer your questions or didn't live up to the movie. I have to ask, what's more important to you, the ARE or the film? You know which one it SHOULD be.

Of course the movie is more important, as it should be. It doesn't NEED to ARE to explain anything. And that's great. The ARE only seems to detract from it's glory. Don't ask for a sequel or prequel just because the limited focus of the movie left you hungry for more. That's just a reason to enjoy Cloverfield again and again.

And, by the way, don't preach to anyone on the board about viral marketing being older than this movie. No one ever said this movie created viral marketing, so why are you trying to be a badass about it?

[ScubaSteve1717]

Because JadedMax said this.

[TheMaximum]

Dude, what is your problem. Number one, even with that quote, he NEVER said Cloverfield invented viral marketing. NEVER. He said it was BORN from the style, which is 100% true.

Also, if you hate the movie so much, move on with your life and forget it. It was a great movie and it was EXACTLY what it was advertised as. If you're upset, you were expecting something totally different and that means YOU have a problem.

Also, you're wrong about Cloverfield being empty without the viral campaign. Totally wrong. I can't help but ponder the depths of your mental deficiency because of such a ridiculous statement. The movie is great IN SPITE of the viral marketing, not because of it. The film succeeds without it and, in fact, makes more sense without it.

You're problem is that you WANTED a Godzilla movie. You wanted a movie that explains everything because you are the kind of viewer that needs to be spoon-fed plot. All you wanted was to see King Ghidorah or Gigan or Godzilla or Biollante being fought off by the valiant efforts of the military. You wanted a different movie.

300 was a great "popcorn movie" as my friend Chris puts it. It's a fun watch, but contributes nothing to cinema. Cloverfield is a great film on many levels. If you can't recognize that, and have to compare it to 300, you have obvious problems that can't be solved in this forum.

I tried to explain why you're wrong, but you won't listen because the movie you wanted to see wasn't Cloverfield at all. You're just wrong, man. Sorry.

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[TheMaximum]

[ScubaSteve1717]

I guess you haven't read much of what I've posted because I never said I hated it, I've actually said the exact opposite.

I find something strange in what you said. You seem to live in a world where everything you see in an advertisement is exactly what you get, no more, no less. If the movie was advertised as a monster movie, then we would have gotten exactly what it was advertised as. But I hate to say it, it wasn't advertised like that. You know it, I know, everyone knows it was advertised as though it showed some ambiguity to it and some intellectual depth (especially with the fact that the first thing ever seen for it is the Statue of Liberties head being removed). But what was given was a movie with no abstract or deeper meaning other then what is shown. Which is exactly why the answers should be given. It is like Gladiator ending before Commodus is killed, or Finding Nemo before he returns home. Everyone would want to know and noone would ever form opinions past "ya he obviously made it", or "no he didn't" for the sole reason that they have nothing to back it up. It is just like every other movie. Just because you end it without people knowing what is going on does not make it any smarter or important than any other movie ever.

Maybe I'm just missing something, could you please explain what the many layers to Cloverfield are? I am not trying to be sarcastic, I am just interested in what other people see that maybe I haven't.

And please don't comment on my mental capacity when you are the one who said that I am wrong for wanting a sequel. I know everyone has a different opinion, I am just arguing my point, all you've said is that I'm wrong and have given no evidence to prove why other then the fact that I just missed something due to my incompetence.

[ScubaSteve1717]