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Little Albatross
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theShaggy wrote:


Again, this is why I like the idea of the viral online stuff. You aren't required to ANSWER everything, but keep the world they live in going. Does the monster get killed? Does it rampage around the world until getting tired and sleeping? Does the big explodey virus become a THING? I don't need to necessarily have someone say "here's where it came from! Answer answer answer!" but to say "Hud's filming was only one thread of this whole city being destroyed. There's other stuff around, too."


This is kind of how I see it. I'm a huge browncoat, so I certainly went and saw Serenity. Not because the last episode of Firefly didn't have Mal and Inara skipping off into the sunset (and I certainly didn't expect that from the movie), but that I absolutely love the universe that Joss built, and I'll take any opportunity I can to play in it. To me, the movie doesn't "cheapen the legacy" of the series despite not being as good as the series (imo). To be cheesy and trite, nothing could take "the sky" that is Firefly away from me.

I really think that'll be the case with this. If the movie resonates with you and you feel like it has a legacy (I'm willing to be the girls in front of me that whipped out their phones all bored right after the movie ended and went "uh... that was stupid..." won't), then you can choose not to see any sequels or engage in any new ARE elements or whatever, and I think that's totally okay. I know people who won't see Serenity because they like Firefly to live on its own. But I think some people can see the original movie for the groundbreaking and interesting piece of art that it is *and* appreciate anything that comes after it as a new part of the puzzle, assuming that JJ is coming at it from a space of wanting to share more of this world with us. Obviously this is all negated if he just sells out and wants to make a bunch of money. *laugh*

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 		You absolutely have your opinion and that's great. Are you saying that we can't have a rebuttal because you've said yours?

Put simply the fact it is a monster movie lends it to being a one shot deal. What are we looking for here? Just the same story shot at a different angle? Or with different people?

I'm not the kinda person to be excited to have seen a great movie and on emotion alone say yeah, I want a sequel. I left the theater with basically the feeling it sucked for Rob and Beth. I figure basically the creature survives until someone figures it out then it dies. Not really a basis to me of 90 more minutes

What are people actually wanting another movie for? Sell me on it. Persuade me on the concept. If it's just "well the monster lives and takes over the world" I'm already yawning.
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JadedMax wrote:
You absolutely have your opinion and that's great. Are you saying that we can't have a rebuttal because you've said yours?

Put simply the fact it is a monster movie lends it to being a one shot deal. What are we looking for here? Just the same story shot at a different angle? Or with different people?

I'm not the kinda person to be excited to have seen a great movie and on emotion alone say yeah, I want a sequel. I left the theater with basically the feeling it sucked for Rob and Beth. I figure basically the creature survives until someone figures it out then it dies. Not really a basis to me of 90 more minutes

What are people actually wanting another movie for? Sell me on it. Persuade me on the concept. If it's just "well the monster lives and takes over the world" I'm already yawning.


If you're talking to me, I'm not sure where you got that impression from my post. That's not at all what I meant, and if that's how it came off to you I really do apologize. I think things are getting a bit heated here, so I can see why people are getting defensive, but that is really not what I was going for.

I'm not even calling out for another movie. I just don't think it would be an across the board failure that would essentially cheapen the first movie, which is what other posters have said with their stomping foot firmly down, as if it is an obvious fact that some of us are just not getting. I don't see it as being that cut and dry. I'd certainly like to know more about the event and the backstory, but if that never happened I'd be okay with that too. *shrug*

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 		Re: War. All of the time.
The Stray wrote:
ScubaSteve1717 wrote:
longhorn07065 wrote:
you have a problem its a opinion
your acting like were dealing with the bible or something
seriously chill i support somethings views too
the movie has to continue into a franchise or a sequel
there were a million un answered questions that
paramount could make millions on answering in a new film

this movie wasn't designed to make you think
it wansnt designed to make you argue or to
inform you about this whole incident that happend in new
york the movie was designed to one and only


make money



if they realize they can capatialize on another movie
its gonna happen no matter what so please maximum go shove it
i do believe your not working for paramount


the end.


We all know that, it's just a discussion, we are allowed to do that.



Yes. Yes. But he's so comically end of the road, end of the line, final word, end of discussion about it. It makes you want to say something back. Guys like that would rule the world if guys like us didn't stand up.


Try substituting the words intelligent, correct, and well-spoken in your description of me, and you'll be giving a fair description of me. The one you gave in the above post is inaccurate. You would be lucky to have a world ruled by people like me.

Guys like me would rule the world if it wasn't for guys like you? You must think you're a real hero. Standing up against the forces of rationalism and appreciation for Cloverfield's power as a film. You're trying to make Cloverfield into a series of movies like Godzilla and that's a crime.

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Little Albatross wrote:

If you're talking to me, I'm not sure where you got that impression from my post. That's not at all what I meant, and if that's how it came off to you I really do apologize. I think things are getting a bit heated here, so I can see why people are getting defensive, but that is really not what I was going for.

I'm not even calling out for another movie. I just don't think it would be an across the board failure that would essentially cheapen the first movie, which is what other posters have said with their stomping foot firmly down, as if it is an obvious fact that some of us are just not getting. I don't see it as being that cut and dry. I'd certainly like to know more about the event and the backstory, but if that never happened I'd be okay with that too. *shrug*


First. With me, I may use strong language or fiercely defend a point but I'll never attack anyone just to be doing it. It's only a messageboard, not foreign policy.

And I was referring to Headman's earlier post mostly. It seems like he was inferring I said my opinion, and he says his, and we're just supposed to all say nothing now. This is a debate. Let's mix it up, and have some fun.

I should have quoted it, but lazily I didn't.

My opinion is simply this. In a few months, which sucks having to wait that long for it, a DVD will be out. Any additional story or added material needs to be on there.

I guess it's different for me. Last thing I want is for Cloverfield to be big, make over 40 million in it's first weekend, then a year from now make some other thing and have it only be moderately successful.

We're die hard fans. We always will want more. If JJ Abrams made a movie where all that was in it was MGP taking a dump in the Hudson River for 30 minutes we'd buy it.

In the grand scheme of things I just don't see this type of movie drawing in as many people with a second full feature installment. The first thing they'd complain about is the shaking camerawork. Then they'd complain about the freshness of it.

Like I said earlier. Cloverfield works best like it's an event. We all need to take from it, and experience the rest as if it's an event that just happened and wait for the online aftermath. No one has even taken into account that online stuff is happening.

Let's wait and see what happens.
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 		Then My Friend
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JadedMax wrote:
You absolutely have your opinion and that's great. Are you saying that we can't have a rebuttal because you've said yours?

Put simply the fact it is a monster movie lends it to being a one shot deal. What are we looking for here? Just the same story shot at a different angle? Or with different people?

I'm not the kinda person to be excited to have seen a great movie and on emotion alone say yeah, I want a sequel. I left the theater with basically the feeling it sucked for Rob and Beth. I figure basically the creature survives until someone figures it out then it dies. Not really a basis to me of 90 more minutes

What are people actually wanting another movie for? Sell me on it. Persuade me on the concept. If it's just "well the monster lives and takes over the world" I'm already yawning.


Well. You said you hated giant monster movies right? You're already in the wrong place to be... but consider this. That monster is supposedly a baby. And after heavy missile bombardment, several thousand rounds of ammunition, and God knows what else, it was standing in that park relatively unscathed. So maybe the monster doesn't die. Maybe it lives to grow 4 times it's size. Maybe it takes over the world, maybe it doesn't. (Although, really, they never do, do they?) The thing about the first person perspective is there are so many of them. And you're telling me you can't find a single one that would interest you? Not ONE? Don't you people solve puzzles on this site? How is that possible with so little imagination? If you want to talk about yawning, love stories are tired. The draw of this movie was never really the people, it was the monster. If it had been about anything else do you think anyone would have gone to go see it? (Probably, but not as many I'd think.)

I guess it's hard to see it from your point of view because

1) You don't even like giant monster movies
2) I don't think we're entirely sure what it is you got out of it. You mentioned this feeling you got, but what is it exactly? It seems like you consider the monster more of a foot note and the people the focus... so...
3) You don't even LIKE giant monster movies
4) The scope of this if intended to be any larger can only be fantasized about at this point. But if you can't even do that...
5) You never paid for drugs. Not Once.

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 		Look, film making is art but not the kind of art that goes to some building where we only look at it and admire its beauty while eating cheese and sampling wine. Movies are entertainment where we are taken into a fantasy world. If that film can take us there in the most realistic way and draw us in so that we get emotional then all the better. However the end result is still the same, it is entertainment. Instead of eating cheese and drinking wine, most of us sample our favorite beverage and eat popcorn while being entertained. I do not see why there is any confusion about it. If there is a sequel and it sucks then it sucks. It will in no way pull the original down. I for one think they could pull it off and hope they do. And why can't we talk about a sequel already? Maybe some of you did not see the film the same way most of us did? Wide open!

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 		A Sequel would kill everything that made Cloverfield cool and enjoyable.

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 		Re: War. All of the time.
TheMaximum wrote:
The Stray wrote:
ScubaSteve1717 wrote:
longhorn07065 wrote:
you have a problem its a opinion
your acting like were dealing with the bible or something
seriously chill i support somethings views too
the movie has to continue into a franchise or a sequel
there were a million un answered questions that
paramount could make millions on answering in a new film

this movie wasn't designed to make you think
it wansnt designed to make you argue or to
inform you about this whole incident that happend in new
york the movie was designed to one and only


make money



if they realize they can capatialize on another movie
its gonna happen no matter what so please maximum go shove it
i do believe your not working for paramount


the end.


We all know that, it's just a discussion, we are allowed to do that.



Yes. Yes. But he's so comically end of the road, end of the line, final word, end of discussion about it. It makes you want to say something back. Guys like that would rule the world if guys like us didn't stand up.


Try substituting the words intelligent, correct, and well-spoken in your description of me, and you'll be giving a fair description of me. The one you gave in the above post is inaccurate. You would be lucky to have a world ruled by people like me.

Guys like me would rule the world if it wasn't for guys like you? You must think you're a real hero. Standing up against the forces of rationalism and appreciation for Cloverfield's power as a film. You're trying to make Cloverfield into a series of movies like Godzilla and that's a crime.


Hah! You're so full of yourself. I love it. You're like a cartoon villain.

Nah. I haven't been a hero for years. Besides. Saving lives is hard. And dangerous.

Also. While I wouldn't mind it if it went the way of Giant Monster battles I'd be equally as thrilled if it went in some other direction. It's actually a shame this monster will never have a bout with The Big G. I'd watch that.

In simple terms: It doesn't have to be like Godzilla. It's good. But would be better if they continued to develop it. That's my story. And I'm stickin' to it.

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 		Maybe just a little, but mainly I just think it's hilarious that you think I'm some sort of tyrant, so I'm just having a some fun.

But you said it yourself: You wouldn't mind if the Cloverfield monster just started fighting other random monsters in another movie. Don't you get it? That is exactly the kind of thing that would hurt Cloverfield.

In fact, anything that changes the experience of the film will detract from it. Whether it be a sequel with changes in camera technology or a sequel that explains the monster.

Do you at least see what I'm trying to say? You can disagree with me all you want, but I just think it's silly you're completely unwilling to acknowledge that as a possibility.

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Maybe just a little, but mainly I just think it's hilarious that you think I'm some sort of tyrant, so I'm just having a some fun.

But you said it yourself: You wouldn't mind if the Cloverfield monster just started fighting other random monsters in another movie. Don't you get it? That is exactly the kind of thing that would hurt Cloverfield.

In fact, anything that changes the experience of the film will detract from it. Whether it be a sequel with changes in camera technology or a sequel that explains the monster.

Do you at least see what I'm trying to say? You can disagree with me all you want, but I just think it's silly you're completely unwilling to acknowledge that as a possibility.



Hm. Sorry if I haven't acknowledged you point. I have trouble with that. I whole heartedly believe that anything in the future in the way of sequels will ruin this movie for you. I just don't think it'll ruin it for anyone else. It's likely there will be a sequel, and from what you've said you'll probably hate it, but if it offers more about this parallel modern world this monster exists in then I think a lot of people will come to respect and enjoy the first movie moreso than if they get nothing. I understand what you mean, I just think more people will see future endeavors in a more positive light.

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look, we can all argue here, but theres two sides of a coin- yes & no. And people are all gonna be on either side. I mean, i have been reading about this argument here on a sequel and all, and i can just ay that if JJ Abrams were to decided whther or not to have a sequel based on this post. The people who want to have a sequel would lose because if JJ ever wants a sequel, he would do something you people will never expect. He will do something people wold never think of. Look at Cloverfield, its such a unique movie. Its a monster movie alright, where Rob is the main dude- no doubt. But of course its not just about the love story. The love story was just IN the monster movie. It was just bad timing for beth and rob. But it is a monster movie! Everyones running from it, hiding from it, filming their escape from it.
Everyone who dies, died in the hands of the monster.
Why are we comparing it to Godzilla, or Blair Witch or hell, even Cadbury? Just cause there were similar treatments or characters or marketing used in Cloverfield? Give Cloverfield some credit for its creativity please. Ye, Cloverfield did have some similarities- shaky camera, monster on a rampage, viral marketing..etc. but it took each of those elements to a higher new level!!! It reinvented monster movies!!! Because, i don't think we would have loved Cloverfield the way we do, if it wasn't for the Shaky cam or the viral marketing. These 2 elements have made us feel a part of everything, like we were there when MGP came, it felt like we were running with Rob & Hud, like we experienced
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. This is a monster movie, but JJ Abrams had made us subconsciously feel of the characters as well. Even for the monster, i mean, how many of you were dying to see it. Hype was built for the monster (poster and such.) then the characters (jaime&teddy, myspace pages). I really however dont see a need at all for a prequel because i feel that it has sorta been done with the virals.
but i can't say for sequels, because if JJ can come up with something WAY BETTER, then by all means. But those chances are low because of the first movie's legacy thats been left now. We feel SO MUCH for this movie, its gonna be hard to accept the second when so much has been developed for Rob and the others. Military point of view is gonna be so unoriginal cause POV's been done by Hud. And i feel that the POV on the monster was the best part of this movie (technically). I really don't know what they are gonna come up with. But then again, even if they come up with something sub-standard, we ARE gonna watch it, cause we are fans. The only thing is, are we gonna be disappointed cause our expectations are SO HIGH? ? We are all looking for somewhat different answers, and we all wanna see different things. How can they live up to THESE expectations and not make the movie suck? I don't want to be spoon fed answers. I want JJ's flair in movies and mystery, and its gonna be a hard movie to make with so many people wanting straight up answers to keep his filming integrity if he does a sequel.
I mean, looking at it, i have little faith that cloverfield will stop here. But it won't be something as original or as much of a mindtrip as this Cloverfield would be, because frankly, whats there left to show besides giving us answers we selfishly want?

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O-M-G.
look, we can all argue here, but theres two sides of a coin- yes & no. And people are all gonna be on either side. I mean, i have been reading about this argument here on a sequel and all, and i can just ay that if JJ Abrams were to decided whther or not to have a sequel based on this post. The people who want to have a sequel would lose because if JJ ever wants a sequel, he would do something you people will never expect. He will do something people wold never think of. Look at Cloverfield, its such a unique movie. Its a monster movie alright, where Rob is the main dude- no doubt. But of course its not just about the love story. The love story was just IN the monster movie. It was just bad timing for beth and rob. But it is a monster movie! Everyones running from it, hiding from it, filming their escape from it.
Everyone who dies, died in the hands of the monster.
Why are we comparing it to Godzilla, or Blair Witch or hell, even Cadbury? Just cause there were similar treatments or characters or marketing used in Cloverfield? Give Cloverfield some credit for its creativity please. Ye, Cloverfield did have some similarities- shaky camera, monster on a rampage, viral marketing..etc. but it took each of those elements to a higher new level!!! It reinvented monster movies!!! Because, i don't think we would have loved Cloverfield the way we do, if it wasn't for the Shaky cam or the viral marketing. These 2 elements have made us feel a part of everything, like we were there when MGP came, it felt like we were running with Rob & Hud, like we experienced
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Marlena's painful Death
. This is a monster movie, but JJ Abrams had made us subconsciously feel of the characters as well. Even for the monster, i mean, how many of you were dying to see it. Hype was built for the monster (poster and such.) then the characters (jaime&teddy, myspace pages). I really however dont see a need at all for a prequel because i feel that it has sorta been done with the virals.
but i can't say for sequels, because if JJ can come up with something WAY BETTER, then by all means. But those chances are low because of the first movie's legacy thats been left now. We feel SO MUCH for this movie, its gonna be hard to accept the second when so much has been developed for Rob and the others. Military point of view is gonna be so unoriginal cause POV's been done by Hud. And i feel that the POV on the monster was the best part of this movie (technically). I really don't know what they are gonna come up with. But then again, even if they come up with something sub-standard, we ARE gonna watch it, cause we are fans. The only thing is, are we gonna be disappointed cause our expectations are SO HIGH? ? We are all looking for somewhat different answers, and we all wanna see different things. How can they live up to THESE expectations and not make the movie suck? I don't want to be spoon fed answers. I want JJ's flair in movies and mystery, and its gonna be a hard movie to make with so many people wanting straight up answers to keep his filming integrity if he does a sequel.
I mean, looking at it, i have little faith that cloverfield will stop here. But it won't be something as original or as much of a mindtrip as this Cloverfield would be, because frankly, whats there left to show besides giving us answers we selfishly want?


Apparently, more than you can possibly imagine.

Again. This is all based on the assumption that this is the big finish. I maintain that this could just be the beginning and that there's more to come. From the scope of the characters this is a beginning and and end. But in the much wider scope of the total event this would be just the beginning.

I don't know why people are struggling so hard with the concept of more happening. Yes. They did an excellent job of developing the characters but we all knew pretty much what was going to happen to those people. And it's not like they were the only ones there. They're not the only one's affected.

Why assume that just because they did it POV style they can never ever do it again because they just did it? WHEN HAS THAT EVER HAPPENED?[/spoiler]

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Don't you people solve puzzles on this site? How is that possible with so little imagination? If you want to talk about yawning, love stories are tired. The draw of this movie was never really the people, it was the monster. If it had been about anything else do you think anyone would have gone to go see it? (Probably, but not as many I'd think.)

I guess it's hard to see it from your point of view because

1) You don't even like giant monster movies
2) I don't think we're entirely sure what it is you got out of it. You mentioned this feeling you got, but what is it exactly? It seems like you consider the monster more of a foot note and the people the focus... so...
3) You don't even LIKE giant monster movies
4) The scope of this if intended to be any larger can only be fantasized about at this point. But if you can't even do that...
5) You never paid for drugs. Not Once.


OK, now you've made this personal...

Love stories may seem tired to one who probably has no way of relating.

What I got out of it was simple. I was intrigued by a cryptic teaser trailer one day. After seeing the Statue of Liberty's head slam into buildings and the street I kinda wanted to know how my hometown was going to be destroyed this time.

Once again, you have no idea what interests me. Maybe a properly done monster movie would please me.... oops, sorry, it already did. Yes imagine (I'm using it now) if you will a monster movie without all that hack, cornball garbage that's plagued every other monster movie. One that's intelligently done. Not drawn out, or harped on too much. A monster movie that does not rely on cheap theatrics and actually has a deeper story within it.

Now imagine that movie being successful. Then before it even has a second out of it's box office weekend debut people want to hack it up and bog it down with sequels. It's not so much not liking monster movies per se. It' the hackneyed predictable cheesy TromaVision been there done this before bullshit that's in EVERY monster/horror movie.

Or it's this nonsense like spinning off franchises off one success. It's like KISS going on one more tour.

It's like going out playing Miss or Hit. "Wow, this kinda thing really worked, people liked it, now let's see how we can fuck it up"

And stop with the "JJ Abrams is God, he can do anything" stuff. I adore the man, but sequels suck in general.

Case and point Mission Impossible 3 That was revolutionary.

And what do drugs have to do with this? And better yet why post while using them?
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look, we can all argue here, but theres two sides of a coin- yes & no. And people are all gonna be on either side. I mean, i have been reading about this argument here on a sequel and all, and i can just ay that if JJ Abrams were to decided whther or not to have a sequel based on this post. The people who want to have a sequel would lose because if JJ ever wants a sequel, he would do something you people will never expect. He will do something people wold never think of. Look at Cloverfield, its such a unique movie. Its a monster movie alright, where Rob is the main dude- no doubt. But of course its not just about the love story. The love story was just IN the monster movie. It was just bad timing for beth and rob. But it is a monster movie! Everyones running from it, hiding from it, filming their escape from it.
Everyone who dies, died in the hands of the monster.
Why are we comparing it to Godzilla, or Blair Witch or hell, even Cadbury? Just cause there were similar treatments or characters or marketing used in Cloverfield? Give Cloverfield some credit for its creativity please. Ye, Cloverfield did have some similarities- shaky camera, monster on a rampage, viral marketing..etc. but it took each of those elements to a higher new level!!! It reinvented monster movies!!! Because, i don't think we would have loved Cloverfield the way we do, if it wasn't for the Shaky cam or the viral marketing. These 2 elements have made us feel a part of everything, like we were there when MGP came, it felt like we were running with Rob & Hud, like we experienced
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Marlena's painful Death
. This is a monster movie, but JJ Abrams had made us subconsciously feel of the characters as well. Even for the monster, i mean, how many of you were dying to see it. Hype was built for the monster (poster and such.) then the characters (jaime&teddy, myspace pages). I really however dont see a need at all for a prequel because i feel that it has sorta been done with the virals.
but i can't say for sequels, because if JJ can come up with something WAY BETTER, then by all means. But those chances are low because of the first movie's legacy thats been left now. We feel SO MUCH for this movie, its gonna be hard to accept the second when so much has been developed for Rob and the others. Military point of view is gonna be so unoriginal cause POV's been done by Hud. And i feel that the POV on the monster was the best part of this movie (technically). I really don't know what they are gonna come up with. But then again, even if they come up with something sub-standard, we ARE gonna watch it, cause we are fans. The only thing is, are we gonna be disappointed cause our expectations are SO HIGH? ? We are all looking for somewhat different answers, and we all wanna see different things. How can they live up to THESE expectations and not make the movie suck? I don't want to be spoon fed answers. I want JJ's flair in movies and mystery, and its gonna be a hard movie to make with so many people wanting straight up answers to keep his filming integrity if he does a sequel.
I mean, looking at it, i have little faith that cloverfield will stop here. But it won't be something as original or as much of a mindtrip as this Cloverfield would be, because frankly, whats there left to show besides giving us answers we selfishly want?


Apparently, more than you can possibly imagine.

Again. This is all based on the assumption that this is the big finish. I maintain that this could just be the beginning and that there's more to come. From the scope of the characters this is a beginning and and end. But in the much wider scope of the total event this would be just the beginning.

I don't know why people are struggling so hard with the concept of more happening. Yes. They did an excellent job of developing the characters but we all knew pretty much what was going to happen to those people. And it's not like they were the only ones there. They're not the only one's affected.

Why assume that just because they did it POV style they can never ever do it again because they just did it? WHEN HAS THAT EVER HAPPENED?[/spoiler]



okay, from what you just said, it seems like you want a sequel in which you wanna see another POV style on another set of characters. why?!
its like Cloverfield just with different actors. i dont see the need.
i am not against anything. i just don't think it is the best idea of a sequel. Cloverfield will be legendary if it stuck to one movie. 2 would just be the answer sheet to the first movie. And once the answers all come out, people will forget Cloverfield.Look at Harry Potter. I am a huge fan, but in the end, he is just fighting voldermort every year just doing it differently. There is content, but its just back to square one.
just note, i'm comparing it on the sequels point only, nothing similar content wise, so dont flame me for that. Confused

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