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[STATEMENT] We should have known all along.
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xboyonfirex
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 		[STATEMENT] We should have known all along.
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Many people are caught off guard by the fact that the monster was secondary in the movie. But the fact is- We should have seen this long before.

Matt Reeves.

He is renowned for his ability to capture human emotion- not 'monster emotion.' The simple fact is- we ignored the synopsis of this movie and made our own synopsis. From that, many declared that the movie was terrible... But that's our expectations that made it terrible.

What's more, remember this:

This movie was a metaphor for the tragedy that was 9/11. It was based upon the people who didn't know/understand what happened or why it happened. When those planes hit the W.T.C. people didn't get an automatic explanation- Neither did we or Rob, Beth, Lily, Hud, and Jason. That's the perspective they wanted to capture.

And finally- If it was your last day on earth, who would you want to spend it with?

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 		Do we have any hardcore proof that the movie was intended to be a metaphor for 9/11? Not calling you a liar, but being really serious. I just want to know.

Also, you forgot Marlena. Very Happy

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xboyonfirex
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TheMaximum wrote:
Do we have any hardcore proof that the movie was intended to be a metaphor for 9/11? Not calling you a liar, but being really serious. I just want to know.

Also, you forgot Marlena. Very Happy


Good point about the Marlena thing-

yeah, uhhm, it's in a Matt Reeves interview or 2. Uhmm, I don't have the exact interviews, but if you check out the press section of this- you'll find it.

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 		Re: [STATEMENT] We should have known all along.
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xboyonfirex wrote:
Many people are caught off guard by the fact that the monster was secondary in the movie. But the fact is- We should have seen this long before.

Matt Reeves.

He is renowned for his ability to capture human emotion- not 'monster emotion.' The simple fact is- we ignored the synopsis of this movie and made our own synopsis. From that, many declared that the movie was terrible... But that's our expectations that made it terrible.

What's more, remember this:

This movie was a metaphor for the tragedy that was 9/11. It was based upon the people who didn't know/understand what happened or why it happened. When those planes hit the W.T.C. people didn't get an automatic explanation- Neither did we or Rob, Beth, Lily, Hud, and Jason. That's the perspective they wanted to capture.

And finally- If it was your last day on earth, who would you want to spend it with?


I swear to god, if I hear one more horse shit remark about 9/11 and cloverfield, I'm skinning something alive......

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 		i could be wrong, but i dont think that he ever said it was a metaphor to 9/11.

im pretty sure that he says somewhere that it was similar to 9/11 in the way that it was something new, something that no one was expecting and didnt know what to think.

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 		i agree with you on the human emotions thing, he totally nailed it and i felt to so upset on
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Marlena's Death
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She didn't deserve it, not that way. It was so fast, dont you think, so fast and so unexpected. I really didn't think she'd die.

But the 9/11 thing...doubtful. I mean, the perspective you're talking about could be based on alot of other stuff. Just cause it was unexpected and there was no automatic response, which i think is very reasonable considering it is a monster, and that no country/city has ever dealt with monsters attacking.
I mean, it shouldn't be compared or talked about as a metaphor of 9/11.
9/11 is still an extremely highly sensitive topic to blabber about.

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 		About the only thing that this movie has in common with 9/11 is that it takes place in New York City.

Hey, wait! I think that the original King Kong was a metaphor for 9/11! Wow! How did they know?! Rolling Eyes

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 		Re: [STATEMENT] We should have known all along.
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These are direct quotes from the IGN interview w/ Matt Reeves.

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"But speaking of the destruction of iconic landmarks, if there was one response to the original Cloverfield trailer that was universal, it was the way it stirred up memories of the footage we all watched when the terrorists attacked on 9/11. Reeves is careful to point out that his movie is just that -- nothing more than a movie -- but there's no denying the subtext of the film."

"[It works] in the same way that Godzilla was really a metaphor for its time, and was a sort of movie about the A-bomb and Hiroshima and all of that."


So everyone quit crying.

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 		Re: [STATEMENT] We should have known all along.
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Cole wrote:
xboyonfirex wrote:
Many people are caught off guard by the fact that the monster was secondary in the movie. But the fact is- We should have seen this long before.

Matt Reeves.

He is renowned for his ability to capture human emotion- not 'monster emotion.' The simple fact is- we ignored the synopsis of this movie and made our own synopsis. From that, many declared that the movie was terrible... But that's our expectations that made it terrible.

What's more, remember this:

This movie was a metaphor for the tragedy that was 9/11. It was based upon the people who didn't know/understand what happened or why it happened. When those planes hit the W.T.C. people didn't get an automatic explanation- Neither did we or Rob, Beth, Lily, Hud, and Jason. That's the perspective they wanted to capture.

And finally- If it was your last day on earth, who would you want to spend it with?


I swear to god, if I hear one more horse shit remark about 9/11 and cloverfield, I'm skinning something alive......


dude, i'm with you, i can't stand the 9-11 comparisons either. while they are similar, every disaster has certain characteristics, and many of them are going to resemble one another.

that having been said, it is really interesting that unlike the vast majority of disaster movies, this does not focus on the monster or the disaster itself. this is strictly a human drama, with the monster and the disaster playing secondary roles.

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 		thank you for posting that interview. im so sick of the comparisons too. as u can read, he said it will remind people of 9/11 , not that it was a metaphor for 9/11 . but some people just wanna stir controversy. after seeing the movie, which i thought was bad ass, i can say the only comparisons to 9/11 was that buildings were falling . there were no planes going into buildings and thank god no sand flea jizlams involved ( as you can see i totally hate those assholes ). why cant we just have a fun monster/disaster movie or any movie for that sake, without there having to be some political agenda? get over yourselves and your conspiracies people. just have fun with it, and repeat after me " its only a movie, its only a movie"
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 		the thing is... Matt Reeves made the connection, not me. So- I'm sticking w/ the Director on this one and saying that there is a 9/11 subtext to it, just as there was a metaphor for the Original Godzilla.

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 		very real fear
xboyonfirex wrote:
the thing is... Matt Reeves made the connection, not me. So- I'm sticking w/ the Director on this one and saying that there is a 9/11 subtext to it, just as there was a metaphor for the Original Godzilla.


Yes, it was my understanding that just as Godzilla was created using the fear of the US attacking Japan (dropping THE bomb), Cloverfield is their "godzilla" after 9/11.

JJ touching on the subject somewhat at 3:03 into the clip

http://www.terrorfeed.com/index.php?id=cloverfield-int-jjabrams

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