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[TheFitcher]

Is it only me who finds that voice weirdly comforting, but weirdly creepy at the same time? It relaxes me yet puts me on edge. Odd feeling.

Anyway, whoever is bothering with putting all this together is sufficiently articulate and knowledgable to make it interesting, regardless of any "game" involved. Kudos to the... well, I'll say PM rather than A.I.

[hootiehoo]

www.eidolonai.com is up

[Euchre]

It would seem based on the most recent video that the 'curtains' are opening. Some clever commentary has led me to the truth behind the AI.

And yes, I am having a lot of fun.

Edit:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK-9W_CHdYg[/youtube]

This is not a game.

[konamouse]

Re: www.eidolonai.com is up

[vilate]

I hate that I can't see videos at work.




***Edit

I can see the website, though. Huh. That's interesting...

[Kayberry]

It shows that the Eilodon console is running in good old Microsoft Internet Explorer (the CENNS window, not the webpages.) The actual window text is "CENNS - 12.0.0.12 - EidolonTLP - M..." (Microsoft Internet Explorer) and included the infamous "E" logo on the left side.

This beings me to suspect that it's actually built off of the Java Object Oriented Neural Net Engine. In other words, for all intents and purposes it is a real artificial intelligence system that we are interacting with, but of no real sophistication. Personally, I find Sun's VM atrociously slow but Microsoft's VM is somewhat decent. Even so, the claims it originally makes of being autonomous enough to cull webpages and post its own responses to YouTube I hold in doubt since we see lots of windows open in F.F's taskbar and lots of things running in the manager when we get a glimpse of it.

It's a pretty cool toy though.

[Euchre]

That IP is certainly one reserved for local type use, not over the internet - so that could be used for a VPN I suppose. Of course, the title for anything loaded into IE (or most any other browser really) is readily faked.

I do find it at least plausible for the fiction for this to be an emerging A.I. still at a relatively crude level, and a much more distant possibility for a real world scenario. I do find it more likely this is a fairly sophisticated implementation of existing rudimentary AI and bot coding. Many of the responses during the 'making of' video are reminiscent of ALICE type responses. An ALICE bot scan be scripted in advance with various idioms and lexical objects like nouns and verbs that are contextual to the expected conversation. ALICE still parses what you say and generates relatively random responses based on your input, and with more sophisticated coding added can add relevant associated terms. This means that video could have been totally staged with a human running things on the other end, or pre-scripted with inexact but limited range results.

If you have watched my video, then you are aware I've tracked down the real person behind the existence of Eidolon TLP. They are now building on the premise that their employers (superiors) are putting ever more pressure on F.F. to cease, and that he could be fired for his actions. I greatly suspect this to be a plot device and not the truth, because the threat of such imminent peril is compelling. It also represents a way to 'escape' if the channel is shut down or disappears. Something to note: if this was truly someone else's AI software, by current law that's someone else's intellectual property - and the whole channel could thus be DMCA'd if his 'superiors' really did intend to 'shut him down'. Of course if he just seems to vanish, many would think this was to deny the very existence of Eidolon - which is also more intriguing to most than a DMCA takedown. The sad truth is that a DMCA takedown would have incredible implications to the whole world of technology, even if the AI is thoroughly crude. That would be more dramatic to me than sustaining the myth of subterfuge. Then again, there is nothing more dramatic than reality...

As long as you know what's real.

[SirQuady]

Good work Euchre on the sleuthing out of "FF"

[bluepill]

something about blowing up curtains

[bryanflurry]

thanks Euchre, I can finally meet my maker

[Euchre]

Re: something about blowing up curtains

[bluepill]

Re: something about blowing up curtains

[garamir]

The latest video piques my curiosity. Not only did it originally have an odd title and still has some strange pauses, but Eidolon seems... nervous? We see in his response about emotions that his and his aura's colors indicate his general emotional state. When starting this video, he uses yellow, which he previously identified with sadness. He doesn't calm down until answering the question about whether he views F.F. as a father.

This seems to be confirmed at the end when he briefly mentions the possibility of the project ending.

[Euchre]

Re: something about blowing up curtains

[SirQuady]

Re: something about blowing up curtains